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1994-09-22 21:25John.Bus@syd.dcet.csiro.auHowdy, > > > 5) Criminal Justice Bill? (4 minutes of silence) > > > > i just bought this s

From:: <John.Bus@syd.dcet.csiro.au>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Thu, 22 Sep 94 14:25:17 PDT
Subject:: CJB

Howdy,

quoted 6 lines 5) Criminal Justice Bill? (4 minutes of silence)

> > > 5) Criminal Justice Bill? (4 minutes of silence) > > > > i just bought this single and was dissapointed with this track, not b/c > > it's 4 minutes of silence, but i because don't get the joke.i figured > > there'd be > > *some* sort of joke in there, but nothing. can anyone help me get a clue?

quoted 2 lines I don't have the item in question, but I did get to chuckle at the gag.

> I don't have the item in question, but I did get to chuckle at the gag. > the Criminal Justice Bill wants silence. It was granted. Easy, yes?

The bill wants a lot more than this and has some serious breaches of the right to free-speech (self expression), it is in 5 parts with only 1 part dealing directly with raves and the likes. For further info there is a very comprehensive WWW page on it. Unfortunately while i've been there and had a good look around... i've lost the address. Can anybody who knows it please post it. Back to some music, but along the same lines the bill tries to define raves and other such parties by "a constant repetitious beat" (condensed form), and Autechre of got around this by writing a track that is 10 mins long and as a constantly changing beat. I've not heard it but know that it is called "Anti". I like the idea behind Autechre's stuff the establishment / law makers approach much better than Orbitals. :) While not related to this list Prodigy / PWEI also have written a track based on the bill... which gets across their thoughts on the subject. :) Regards, John /-------------------------------------------------------------------\ | JOHN BUS (aka. JOHNNY TURBO) | | SNAIL - Digital Access | | Box 13, 7 Sagar Place North Ryde 2113 Australia | | EMAIL - John.Bus@syd.dcet.csiro.au OR turbo@twister.apana.org.au | \-------------------------------------------------------------------/

1994-09-22 09:42John A Tuffen> > > > 5) Criminal Justice Bill? (4 minutes of silence) > > > > > > i just bought this si

From:: John A Tuffen <jat@ohm.york.ac.uk>
To:: <John.Bus@syd.dcet.csiro.au>
Cc:: idm <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 10:42:04 +0100 (BST)
Subject:: Re: CJB
Reply to:: CJB

quoted 6 lines 5) Criminal Justice Bill? (4 minutes of silence)

> > > > 5) Criminal Justice Bill? (4 minutes of silence) > > > > > > i just bought this single and was dissapointed with this track, not b/c > > > it's 4 minutes of silence, but i because don't get the joke.i figured > > > there'd be > > > *some* sort of joke in there, but nothing. can anyone help me get a clue?

Well, under the CJB, we (uk residents) lose the right to silence when questioned. This is bad. (No more "you have the right to remain silent, but anything you say will be taken down and used in evidence", but more like " you may remain silent, but that just means that you're guilty...") I have a link to the CJB info from my WWW page (see sig). Happy happy. john.. -- jat5@unix.york.ac.uk jat@ohm.york.ac.uk http://www.york.ac.uk/~jat5/ _______________________________________________________ | Flex music, York, UK. || ContinuousEvolution | | (0904) 610745 || Ian Gibson | | Tapes available: || quanta | ------------------------------------------------------- "Music has overtaken poetry because people are afraid of silence." - J. Betjeman.

1994-09-22 10:28CiMOn Thu, 22 Sep 1994 John.Bus@syd.dcet.csiro.au wrote: > While not related to this list Pro

From:: CiM <u9323899@sys.uea.ac.uk>
To:: <John.Bus@syd.dcet.csiro.au>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Thu, 22 Sep 1994 11:28:30 +0100 (BST)
Subject:: Re: CJB
Reply to:: CJB

On Thu, 22 Sep 1994 John.Bus@syd.dcet.csiro.au wrote:

quoted 2 lines While not related to this list Prodigy / PWEI also have written a track

> While not related to this list Prodigy / PWEI also have written a track > based on the bill... which gets across their thoughts on the subject. :)

I think there is to be an anti-CJB album with tracks from the Orb, The Prodicgy and others. Details in this weeks NME. [CiM]