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1994-01-11 19:00Michael J Minnich Free Records
1994-01-12 20:03Bryce Palmer Re: Free Records
1994-01-13 20:25Andrew J. Ford Re: Free Records
1994-01-13 20:59Andrew J. Ford Re: Free Records
1994-01-14 14:56Carl VIRTANEN Re: Free Records
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1994-01-11 19:00Michael J MinnichOkay, now that everyone is back from break, I have a question for the more experienced DJs
From:
Michael J Minnich
Date:
Tue, 11 Jan 1994 14:00:07 -0500 (EST)
Subject:
Free Records
Okay, now that everyone is back from break, I have a question for the more experienced DJs out there. What is the best plan of attack to get various record companies to send you free promos? To give you an idea of my background, I've only been into DJing seriously for maybe six months, but I have a radio show on a college station which just got a power upgrade, expanding listenership to over 1 million. The station has a fairly big techno following, considering the general lack of raves and techno listening in Pittsburgh. Should I call? Should I write lots of letters? What's the best pitch to give them? Who should I be talking to, address letters to, etc? Any advice is appreciated. --- Michael Minnich inhuman+@cmu.edu "hardcore beats and funky rhythms" <finger me for my PGP key>
1994-01-12 20:03Bryce PalmerMichael Minnich brought up a subject that I have been wondering about for quite a while. H
From:
Bryce Palmer
Date:
Wed, 12 Jan 1994 12:03:02 -0800 (PST)
Subject:
Re: Free Records
Michael Minnich brought up a subject that I have been wondering about for quite a while. How can your everyday, average aspiring DJ go about getting record companies to send them free music? Salem, Oregon isn't really the hotspot for dance music in the USA, so I need all the help I can get to get my hands on some good techno/trance/rave/industrial besides the stuff I can buy at Musicland/Sam Goody. I've been working on my live DJing skills for about a year, but to really excel I need some new tunes. Any advice would be greatly appreciated. Bryce Palmer bpalmer@willamette.edu
1994-01-13 20:25Andrew J. FordOn Tue, 11 Jan 1994, Michael J Minnich wrote: > > Okay, now that everyone is back from bre
From:
Andrew J. Ford
Date:
Thu, 13 Jan 1994 14:25:01 -0600 (CST)
Subject:
Re: Free Records
On Tue, 11 Jan 1994, Michael J Minnich wrote:
quoted 6 lines Okay, now that everyone is back from break, I have a question for the> > Okay, now that everyone is back from break, I have a question for the > more experienced DJs out there. > > What is the best plan of attack to get various record companies to send > you free promos?
This may not be the advice that you're looking for but here goes: I don't *want* any promos! *SOMETIMES* companies use promos to subtly coerce djs into charting material that would otherwise languish in the trash heap in which it belongs. And on the flipside, some djs only play what is sent to them, which leaves the tiny labels who can't afford to promo their stuff out in the cold. The bottom line for me is, if it ain't worth buying, it ain't worth playing. Although any and all comments on this thought5 are welcome, please don't take offense. I really believe that a promo-less dj world would lead to better music getting out in the free air. andy@howdy.wustl.edu * . * \ / * /_\ * / -( )- * |~ /~ / \strOboy / \ * --o-- / _/ _|
1994-01-13 20:59Andrew J. FordOn Thu, 13 Jan 1994, Ian Smith wrote: > you have to join a record pool. The pool ranks you
From:
Andrew J. Ford
Date:
Thu, 13 Jan 1994 14:59:32 -0600 (CST)
Subject:
Re: Free Records
On Thu, 13 Jan 1994, Ian Smith wrote:
quoted 10 lines you have to join a record pool. The pool ranks you in importance> you have to join a record pool. The pool ranks you in importance > depending on which venues you play and how often and the labels give > the records to the pools to distribute as they see fit. Seems a much > better system to me because the DJ's aren't under so much pressure to > pretend something crap is good and they can give honest reactions. > > So I guess you have to find out what pools are operating in your area > and then try and get on one. > > Ian (in the UK)
i've seen notes in people's pool-packages "asking" the djs to chart particular cuts, so no help there (sigh)... andy@howdy.wustl.edu * . * \ / * /_\ * / -( )- * |~ /~ / \strOboy / \ * --o-- / _/ _|
1994-01-14 14:56Carl VIRTANENOn Thu, 13 Jan 1994, Andrew J. Ford wrote: > On Tue, 11 Jan 1994, Michael J Minnich wrote:
From:
Carl VIRTANEN
Date:
Fri, 14 Jan 1994 10:56:45 -0400 (EDT)
Subject:
Re: Free Records
On Thu, 13 Jan 1994, Andrew J. Ford wrote:
quoted 22 lines On Tue, 11 Jan 1994, Michael J Minnich wrote:> On Tue, 11 Jan 1994, Michael J Minnich wrote: > > > > > Okay, now that everyone is back from break, I have a question for the > > more experienced DJs out there. > > > > What is the best plan of attack to get various record companies to send > > you free promos? > This may not be the advice that you're looking for but here goes: > I don't *want* any promos! > *SOMETIMES* companies use promos to subtly coerce djs into charting > material that would otherwise languish in the trash heap in which it > belongs. And on the flipside, some djs only play what is sent to them, > which leaves the tiny labels who can't afford to promo their stuff > out in the cold. > The bottom line for me is, if it ain't worth buying, it ain't worth > playing. > > Although any and all comments on this thought5 are welcome, > please don't take offense. > I really believe that a promo-less dj world would lead to > better music getting out in the free air.
Ok, i guess i'd have to agree that *just* playing promo records sent to you by major labels is unfair to diy artists are those on small labels. However, having worked in a campus music station (though this is canada) for 6 years i can honestly say that i never play new release promos based on the company they come from and judge music strictly by the strength of what's present. I can't speak for the situation in the states, but most stations i know of in canada get most of their music from fairly small labels. In fact, the volume of cassettes coming in to the station is sometimes overwhelming. Most cassette releases are diy or very small labels. Of course, not everything that comes in is to my (or other dj's) taste but then again, i buy about 50-75% of what i play. Perhaps we've been lucky to have good music directors who have lots of contacts and can get small labels to send stuff, but then again, that's what they're for! Sure, some of the majors send goofy stuff sometimes, like when this heavy metal band sent in a pair of woman's underwear with their name on the crotch, but believe me, these tactics do not work well! (IMHO) It's also good to have contact at small labels to do phone interviews etc etc with artists even if they can't afford to send stuff along. In short then, i've found that most small labels (or relatively small) have been very responsive and have usually been glad to send free copies of albums. My only beef is that most of these labels that do this are non-techno orientated and that it is near impossible to get stuff from overseas(rising high is good but they're distributed here by cargo canada who send in tons of material). +8, novamute, and astralwerks are excepted! I hope this might help any college dj's who are looking in to getting promo material. It's not impossible to get good promo records, it just takes a bit of persistance. carl