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quoted 7 lines this one rox!

> this one rox! > > theREAL parašė: > >> This should be discussed here: >> http://www.discogs.com/Point-7-What/release/1689955 >>

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I's alright. Nothing outstanding IMO

quoted 26 lines Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 06:50:48 -0400

> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 06:50:48 -0400 > From: theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net > To: walkman@sutemos.net > CC: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [idm] Point 7 > > Walkman wrote: > > this one rox! > > > > theREAL parašė: > > > >> This should be discussed here: > >> http://www.discogs.com/Point-7-What/release/1689955 > >> > > Not only that, but it is c-l-a-s-s-i-c IDM, drawing comparisons to > "golden era" releases, Bola, RDJ, etc. > > > > jeff > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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While it doesn't break new ground, I would argue that it is an outstanding release - if only because there is very little out there that fits the IDM category any more for it to stand out against. And as I mentioned below, it does hold its own against the releases that are usually considered formative for the genre. While this moves through familiar territory, it does so with expertise and acumen - and it isn't simply re-drilled dubstep as is so much of what is afoot these days. About 5 spins in, I'd place on the shelf next to Bola, and in my book, that's an accomplishment. jeff

quoted 16 lines I's alright. Nothing outstanding IMO

> I's alright. Nothing outstanding IMO > > > > > Subject: Re: [idm] Point 7 > > > > > > this one rox! > > > > > > >> This should be discussed here: > > >> http://www.discogs.com/Point-7-What/release/1689955 > > >> > > > > Not only that, but it is c-l-a-s-s-i-c IDM, drawing comparisons to > > "golden era" releases, Bola, RDJ, etc. > >

Like I said - It's alright.

quoted 37 lines Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:12:22 -0400

> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:12:22 -0400 > From: theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [idm] Point 7 > > While it doesn't break new ground, I would argue that it is an > outstanding release - if only because there is very little out there > that fits the IDM category any more for it to stand out against. And as > I mentioned below, it does hold its own against the releases that are > usually considered formative for the genre. > While this moves through familiar territory, it does so with expertise > and acumen - and it isn't simply re-drilled dubstep as is so much of > what is afoot these days. > About 5 spins in, I'd place on the shelf next to Bola, and in my book, > that's an accomplishment. > > > > jeff > > > I's alright. Nothing outstanding IMO > > > > > > > > Subject: Re: [idm] Point 7 > > > > > > > > > this one rox! > > > > > > > > > >> This should be discussed here: > > > >> http://www.discogs.com/Point-7-What/release/1689955 > > > >> > > > > > > Not only that, but it is c-l-a-s-s-i-c IDM, drawing comparisons to > > > "golden era" releases, Bola, RDJ, etc. > > > >

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And if you can't offer any more cogent criticism than two words, I'll give your opinion about as much weight as you gave effort to make it. jeff

quoted 24 lines Like I said - It's alright.

> Like I said - It's alright. > > > >> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:12:22 -0400 >> From: theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net >> To: idm@hyperreal.org >> Subject: Re: [idm] Point 7 >> >> While it doesn't break new ground, I would argue that it is an >> outstanding release - if only because there is very little out there >> that fits the IDM category any more for it to stand out against. And as >> I mentioned below, it does hold its own against the releases that are >> usually considered formative for the genre. >> While this moves through familiar territory, it does so with expertise >> and acumen - and it isn't simply re-drilled dubstep as is so much of >> what is afoot these days. >> About 5 spins in, I'd place on the shelf next to Bola, and in my book, >> that's an accomplishment. >> >> >> >> jeff >>

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All I will say is that I was not blown away by it like I have been by some previous Toytronic releases. Sure, I have heard worse but I have heard better stuff this year from lesser known labels and artists. Yeah it’s alright, maybe I was expecting too much from it? I think it’s ok, but not worthy to be gushed with lashings of praise and admiration. Of course, this is only my opinion which counts for nothing.

quoted 40 lines Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:37:26 -0400

> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:37:26 -0400 > From: theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [idm] Point 7 > > And if you can't offer any more cogent criticism than two words, I'll > give your opinion about as much weight as you gave effort to make it. > > > jeff > > Like I said - It's alright. > > > > > > > >> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:12:22 -0400 > >> From: theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net > >> To: idm@hyperreal.org > >> Subject: Re: [idm] Point 7 > >> > >> While it doesn't break new ground, I would argue that it is an > >> outstanding release - if only because there is very little out there > >> that fits the IDM category any more for it to stand out against. And as > >> I mentioned below, it does hold its own against the releases that are > >> usually considered formative for the genre. > >> While this moves through familiar territory, it does so with expertise > >> and acumen - and it isn't simply re-drilled dubstep as is so much of > >> what is afoot these days. > >> About 5 spins in, I'd place on the shelf next to Bola, and in my book, > >> that's an accomplishment. > >> > >> > >> > >> jeff > >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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Much better. All I wanted was some sense of what you're trying to say. You could even go a step further and name some of this year's artists whom you think excel beyond this - because I haven't heard them, and I've heard a thing or two. Even better would be why you think they're better than the Point 7. jeff

quoted 51 lines All I will say is that I was not blown away by it like I have been by some previous Toytro

> All I will say is that I was not blown away by it like I have been by some previous Toytronic releases. Sure, I have heard worse but I have heard better stuff this year from lesser known labels and artists. Yeah it’s alright, maybe I was expecting too much from it? I think it’s ok, but not worthy to be gushed with lashings of praise and admiration. Of course, this is only my opinion which counts for nothing. > > > >> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:37:26 -0400 >> From: theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net >> To: idm@hyperreal.org >> Subject: Re: [idm] Point 7 >> >> And if you can't offer any more cogent criticism than two words, I'll >> give your opinion about as much weight as you gave effort to make it. >> >> >> jeff >> >>> Like I said - It's alright. >>> >>> >>> >>> >>>> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:12:22 -0400 >>>> From: theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net >>>> To: idm@hyperreal.org >>>> Subject: Re: [idm] Point 7 >>>> >>>> While it doesn't break new ground, I would argue that it is an >>>> outstanding release - if only because there is very little out there >>>> that fits the IDM category any more for it to stand out against. And as >>>> I mentioned below, it does hold its own against the releases that are >>>> usually considered formative for the genre. >>>> While this moves through familiar territory, it does so with expertise >>>> and acumen - and it isn't simply re-drilled dubstep as is so much of >>>> what is afoot these days. >>>> About 5 spins in, I'd place on the shelf next to Bola, and in my book, >>>> that's an accomplishment. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> jeff >>>> >>>> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >> >> > > _________________________________________________________________ > View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place – Learn more! > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/ >

OK, of course it’s all relative, because what I think is good someone else will think is gash, but some music that has been doing the do for me is: Hidden Persuader – Electrocratic Infinite Scale – Ad infinitum Eero Johannes - Eero Johannes Loneshark - Synchromatic

quoted 1 line Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 09:14:07

> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 09:14:07

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quoted 65 lines From: theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net

> From: theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net > CC: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [idm] Point 7 > > Much better. All I wanted was some sense of what you're trying to say. > You could even go a step further and name some of this year's artists > whom you think excel beyond this - because I haven't heard them, and > I've heard a thing or two. Even better would be why you think they're > better than the Point 7. > > > jeff > > > All I will say is that I was not blown away by it like I have been by some previous Toytronic releases. Sure, I have heard worse but I have heard better stuff this year from lesser known labels and artists. Yeah it’s alright, maybe I was expecting too much from it? I think it’s ok, but not worthy to be gushed with lashings of praise and admiration. Of course, this is only my opinion which counts for nothing. > > > > > > > >> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:37:26 -0400 > >> From: theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net > >> To: idm@hyperreal.org > >> Subject: Re: [idm] Point 7 > >> > >> And if you can't offer any more cogent criticism than two words, I'll > >> give your opinion about as much weight as you gave effort to make it. > >> > >> > >> jeff > >> > >>> Like I said - It's alright. > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>> > >>>> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:12:22 -0400 > >>>> From: theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net > >>>> To: idm@hyperreal.org > >>>> Subject: Re: [idm] Point 7 > >>>> > >>>> While it doesn't break new ground, I would argue that it is an > >>>> outstanding release - if only because there is very little out there > >>>> that fits the IDM category any more for it to stand out against. And as > >>>> I mentioned below, it does hold its own against the releases that are > >>>> usually considered formative for the genre. > >>>> While this moves through familiar territory, it does so with expertise > >>>> and acumen - and it isn't simply re-drilled dubstep as is so much of > >>>> what is afoot these days. > >>>> About 5 spins in, I'd place on the shelf next to Bola, and in my book, > >>>> that's an accomplishment. > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> > >>>> jeff > >>>> > >>>> > >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- > >> To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >> For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >> > >> > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > > View your Twitter and Flickr updates from one place – Learn more! > > http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/137984870/direct/01/ > > >

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In terms of making comparisons to Point 7, in most cases, these seem like apples next to the exemplary orange. The Hidden Persuader record is electro. For me electro is either really good or tedious, the latter being by far the most populous category. I've been listening to electro since it crawled out between Kraftwerk and b-boys, and I don't hear anything special here. The Eero Johannes is indeed interesting, but the only reason to cast it in the problematic nomenclature of idm is because of a lack of appropriate signifiers. It's more of a collision between synth pop and electronic soul with some clever moves. The Loneshark ep delivered, in my opinion, one really nice track ("Battle Gongs") and another good one ("Pirates"); the two 'in the middle' seemed less worthy to my ears, creating a sort of sandwich that shows promise but has too much crust. The Infinite Scale is the most appropo in terms of genre, but although it's a good record, it doesn't add up to the same quality throughout as the Point 7 does in my ears. For the record, there are elements of the Point 7 I don't like, e.g. that tinge of rave afterwash. Admittedly, using my own construct of idm (which is unusually rigid for me, if only for the sake of making my point here), that rings genuine to the 90's-ish patina on the record. jeff Jon Jon wrote:

quoted 35 lines OK, of course it’s all relative, because what I think is good someone

> OK, of course it’s all relative, because what I think is good someone > else will think is gash, but some music that has been doing the do for > me is: > > > > Hidden Persuader – Electrocratic > > Infinite Scale – Ad infinitum > > *Eero Johannes - Eero Johannes* > > *Loneshark - *Synchromatic** > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 09:14:07 > > ** > > -0400 > > From: theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net > > CC: idm@hyperreal.org > > Subject: Re: [idm] Point 7 > > > > Much better. All I wanted was some sense of what you're trying to say. > > You could even go a step further and name some of this year's artists > > whom you think excel beyond this - because I haven't heard them, and > > I've heard a thing or two. Even better would be why you think they're > > better than the Point 7. > > > > > > jeff

I am not making any comparisons to point 7 think you are missing the point, (haha, get the pun?) It's not that I don't not like it, I just don't think it's as good as I was hoping for.

quoted 69 lines Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:24:19 -0400

> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:24:19 -0400 > From: theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net > CC: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [idm] Point 7 > > In terms of making comparisons to Point 7, in most cases, these seem > like apples next to the exemplary orange. > The Hidden Persuader record is electro. For me electro is either really > good or tedious, the latter being by far the most populous category. > I've been listening to electro since it crawled out between Kraftwerk > and b-boys, and I don't hear anything special here. > The Eero Johannes is indeed interesting, but the only reason to cast it > in the problematic nomenclature of idm is because of a lack of > appropriate signifiers. > It's more of a collision between synth pop and electronic soul with some > clever moves. > The Loneshark ep delivered, in my opinion, one really nice track > ("Battle Gongs") and another good one ("Pirates"); the two 'in the > middle' seemed less worthy to my ears, creating a sort of sandwich that > shows promise but has too much crust. > The Infinite Scale is the most appropo in terms of genre, but although > it's a good record, it doesn't add up to the same quality throughout as > the Point 7 does in my ears. For the record, there are elements of the > Point 7 I don't like, e.g. that tinge of rave afterwash. Admittedly, > using my own construct of idm (which is unusually rigid for me, if only > for the sake of making my point here), that rings genuine to the > 90's-ish patina on the record. > > > jeff > > > Jon Jon wrote: > > OK, of course it’s all relative, because what I think is good someone > > else will think is gash, but some music that has been doing the do for > > me is: > > > > > > > > Hidden Persuader – Electrocratic > > > > Infinite Scale – Ad infinitum > > > > *Eero Johannes - Eero Johannes* > > > > *Loneshark - *Synchromatic** > > > > > > > > > > > > > Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 09:14:07 > > > > ** > > > > -0400 > > > From: theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net > > > CC: idm@hyperreal.org > > > Subject: Re: [idm] Point 7 > > > > > > Much better. All I wanted was some sense of what you're trying to say. > > > You could even go a step further and name some of this year's artists > > > whom you think excel beyond this - because I haven't heard them, and > > > I've heard a thing or two. Even better would be why you think they're > > > better than the Point 7. > > > > > > > > > jeff >

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Fair enough - but you were making comparisons. When you write: "...but I have heard better stuff this year from lesser known labels and artists" and I ask you to name them, which you do, what else would you call it? jeff

quoted 11 lines I am not making any comparisons to point 7 think you are missing the point, (haha, get the

> I am not making any comparisons to point 7 think you are missing the point, (haha, get the pun?) > > It's not that I don't not like it, I just don't think it's as good as I was hoping for. > > >> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:24:19 -0400 >> From: theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net >> CC: idm@hyperreal.org >> Subject: Re: [idm] Point 7 >> >> In terms of making comparisons to Point 7...

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You were assuming that I was making comparisons, I am not comparing these releases to the point7 release; I was saying I prefer them, that's all.

quoted 33 lines Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:40:58 -0400

> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:40:58 -0400 > From: theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [idm] Point 7 > > Fair enough - but you were making comparisons. > When you write: > > "...but I have heard better stuff this year from lesser known labels and artists" > > and I ask you to name them, which you do, what else would you call it? > > > jeff > > > > I am not making any comparisons to point 7 think you are missing the point, (haha, get the pun?) > > > > It's not that I don't not like it, I just don't think it's as good as I was hoping for. > > > > > >> Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 10:24:19 -0400 > >> From: theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net > >> CC: idm@hyperreal.org > >> Subject: Re: [idm] Point 7 > >> > >> In terms of making comparisons to Point 7... > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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Jon Jon wrote:

quoted 3 lines You were assuming that I was making comparisons, I am not comparing

> You were assuming that I was making comparisons, I am not comparing > these releases to the point7 release; I was saying I prefer them, > that's all.

I'm not going to belabor this any further - the word "better" is a comparative adjective. Call it what you will and have a nice day. jeff

ok, this is why i am unsubscribing. everyone who likes IDM is a douche, evidently. On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:52 AM, theREAL <theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net>wrote:

quoted 12 lines Jon Jon wrote:

> Jon Jon wrote: > >> You were assuming that I was making comparisons, I am not comparing >> these releases to the point7 release; I was saying I prefer them, that's >> all. >> > I'm not going to belabor this any further - the word "better" is a > comparative adjective. > Call it what you will and have a nice day. > > jeff >

Dont' Go Dan... the list is just coming back to life and you are leaving !! I'm sure the two protagonists are wise enough not to take offence from a discussion on the internets. Its all about opinions.... As I type I'm beginning to think this is the best viral marketing campaign yet for an IDM release since the Tuss. Due to this discussion I now want to hear this rekid to decide for myself. Dylan -----Original Message----- From: Dan Brenner [mailto:brenner.dan@gmail.com] Sent: Freitag, 24. April 2009 15:54 To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [idm] Point 7 ok, this is why i am unsubscribing. everyone who likes IDM is a douche, evidently. On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:52 AM, theREAL <theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net>wrote:

quoted 12 lines Jon Jon wrote:

> Jon Jon wrote: > >> You were assuming that I was making comparisons, I am not comparing >> these releases to the point7 release; I was saying I prefer them, that's >> all. >> > I'm not going to belabor this any further - the word "better" is a > comparative adjective. > Call it what you will and have a nice day. > > jeff >

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Stop filling my inbox every 5 minutes with your constant back and forth bullsh*t. Save a collection of your thought for a few emails. I'm thinking of leaving the list too now. You guys are driving me crazy. Ben Gates Sent from my iPhone Www.myspace.com/bengates On Apr 24, 2009, at 8:02 AM, <Dylan.Thomson@shell.com> wrote:

quoted 48 lines Dont' Go Dan...

> Dont' Go Dan... > > the list is just coming back to life and you are leaving !! > I'm sure the two protagonists are wise enough not to take offence > from a discussion on the internets. > Its all about opinions.... > > As I type I'm beginning to think this is the best viral marketing > campaign yet for an IDM release since the Tuss. > Due to this discussion I now want to hear this rekid to decide for > myself. > > > Dylan > > > -----Original Message----- > From: Dan Brenner [mailto:brenner.dan@gmail.com] > Sent: Freitag, 24. April 2009 15:54 > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [idm] Point 7 > > > ok, this is why i am unsubscribing. > everyone who likes IDM is a douche, evidently. > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:52 AM, theREAL > <theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net>wrote: > >> Jon Jon wrote: >> >>> You were assuming that I was making comparisons, I am not comparing >>> these releases to the point7 release; I was saying I prefer them, >>> that's >>> all. >>> >> I'm not going to belabor this any further - the word "better" is a >> comparative adjective. >> Call it what you will and have a nice day. >> >> jeff >> > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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That's pretty sad if you want to leave the list because of that. Bottom line is, Jeff clearly loves the release and I think its average. End of

quoted 72 lines From: bengates@gmail.com

> From: bengates@gmail.com > To: Dylan.Thomson@shell.com > Date: Fri, 24 Apr 2009 08:38:06 -0700 > CC: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [idm] Point 7 > > Stop filling my inbox every 5 minutes with your constant back and > forth bullsh*t. Save a collection of your thought for a few emails. > I'm thinking of leaving the list too now. You guys are driving me > crazy. > > Ben Gates > > Sent from my iPhone > > Www.myspace.com/bengates > > On Apr 24, 2009, at 8:02 AM, <Dylan.Thomson@shell.com> wrote: > > > Dont' Go Dan... > > > > the list is just coming back to life and you are leaving !! > > I'm sure the two protagonists are wise enough not to take offence > > from a discussion on the internets. > > Its all about opinions.... > > > > As I type I'm beginning to think this is the best viral marketing > > campaign yet for an IDM release since the Tuss. > > Due to this discussion I now want to hear this rekid to decide for > > myself. > > > > > > Dylan > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dan Brenner [mailto:brenner.dan@gmail.com] > > Sent: Freitag, 24. April 2009 15:54 > > To: idm@hyperreal.org > > Subject: Re: [idm] Point 7 > > > > > > ok, this is why i am unsubscribing. > > everyone who likes IDM is a douche, evidently. > > > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 10:52 AM, theREAL > > <theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net>wrote: > > > >> Jon Jon wrote: > >> > >>> You were assuming that I was making comparisons, I am not comparing > >>> these releases to the point7 release; I was saying I prefer them, > >>> that's > >>> all. > >>> > >> I'm not going to belabor this any further - the word "better" is a > >> comparative adjective. > >> Call it what you will and have a nice day. > >> > >> jeff > >> > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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quoted 4 lines That's pretty sad if you want to leave the list because of that. Bottom line is, Jeff

> That's pretty sad if you want to leave the list because of that. Bottom line is, Jeff clearly loves the release and I think its average. End of > > >

That - and the fact that I got up on the wrong side of bed :-) Besides, pointless debate and debate for it's own sake has been list protocol for at least the 11-12 years I have been here. I'm not defending it...just point out that it IS tradition. On top of it, we discussed 5 releases in this thread, so I'd say the signal to noise ratio isn't too horrible. jeff --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I personally thought the conversation was as informational as it was petty :) *goes to look for some of the releases mentioned in the thread* Clint Anderson System Administrator On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:58 AM, theREAL <theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net>wrote:

quoted 24 lines That's pretty sad if you want to leave the list because of that. Bottom

> > That's pretty sad if you want to leave the list because of that. Bottom >> line is, Jeff clearly loves the release and I think its average. End of >> >> > That - and the fact that I got up on the wrong side of bed :-) > Besides, pointless debate and debate for it's own sake has been list > protocol for at least the 11-12 years I have been here. > I'm not defending it...just point out that it IS tradition. > On top of it, we discussed 5 releases in this thread, so I'd say the signal > to noise ratio isn't too horrible. > > > > > > jeff > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

Nothing to add, other than a few more emails, and this thread's reply-staircase will stretch all the way across my email client. Go go go! (Also: will check all mentioned records.) On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 12:33:40PM -0500, Clint Anderson wrote:

quoted 35 lines I personally thought the conversation was as informational as it was petty

> I personally thought the conversation was as informational as it was petty > :) > *goes to look for some of the releases mentioned in the thread* > > Clint Anderson > System Administrator > > > > On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 11:58 AM, theREAL <theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net>wrote: > > > > > That's pretty sad if you want to leave the list because of that. Bottom > >> line is, Jeff clearly loves the release and I think its average. End of > >> > >> > > That - and the fact that I got up on the wrong side of bed :-) > > Besides, pointless debate and debate for it's own sake has been list > > protocol for at least the 11-12 years I have been here. > > I'm not defending it...just point out that it IS tradition. > > On top of it, we discussed 5 releases in this thread, so I'd say the signal > > to noise ratio isn't too horrible. > > > > > > > > > > > > jeff > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > >

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Maybe specious as as an argument, Jeff ;-), but it's piqued enough curiosity to seek out this Point 7 thingie. I had thought Toytronic was, to re-tool a cliche, "An Idea Whose Time Had Come... and Gone", but the absence has kind of made the heart a little fonder, although I haven't listened to it yet. The idea of listening to it is appealing, conceptually. The last Toytronic I recall was in fact '3D Concepts' (Dec 2004), which I remember liking (certainly the *Loess* tracks grabbed me). While we're talking about the dea[r]th of IDM, the only other IDM-type release I've heard recently that's got my ears pricking up is the 10-20 s/t release on Highpoint Lowlife (for lengthy clips: <http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=167794>) alan --On 24 April 2009 08:12 -0400 theREAL <theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net> wrote:

quoted 3 lines I would argue that it is an outstanding release - if only because there

> I would argue that it is an outstanding release - if only because there > is very little out there that fits the IDM category any more for it to > stand out against.

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hey Jeff, thanks for the recommendation. just listened to the samples. would definitely pick this up! haven't really listened to a lot of IDM lately but its sounds more dubstep to me. Raul --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Speaking of toys, there is also the band that did the Grey's Anatomy theme, (I hate Grey's Anatomy but my wife watches it regularily despite my complaining), which is by Psapp, who use toys and found sounds to make cheesy clicky beepy IDM :) I like some of it, most of it is eh, but I think if you are into like Matmos for example you would like it alot (that's the first thing I think of when I hear it) Clint Anderson System Administrator On Fri, Apr 24, 2009 at 1:06 PM, Alan Lockett <Alan.R.Lockett@bristol.ac.uk>wrote:

quoted 37 lines Maybe specious as as an argument, Jeff ;-), but it's piqued enough

> > Maybe specious as as an argument, Jeff ;-), but it's piqued enough > curiosity to seek out this Point 7 thingie. I had thought Toytronic was, to > re-tool a cliche, "An Idea Whose Time Had Come... and Gone", but the absence > has kind of made the heart a little fonder, although I haven't listened to > it yet. The idea of listening to it is appealing, conceptually. The last > Toytronic I recall was in fact '3D Concepts' (Dec 2004), which I remember > liking (certainly the *Loess* tracks grabbed me). > While we're talking about the dea[r]th of IDM, the only other IDM-type > release I've heard recently that's got my ears pricking up is the 10-20 s/t > release on Highpoint Lowlife > (for lengthy clips: <http://www.boomkat.com/item.cfm?id=167794>) > > alan > > --On 24 April 2009 08:12 -0400 theREAL <theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net> > wrote: > > I would argue that it is an outstanding release - if only because there >> is very little out there that fits the IDM category any more for it to >> stand out against. >> > > > > ---------------------- > Alan Lockett (Senior Language Co-ordinator - EFL) > Language Centre, University of Bristol, > 30-32 Tyndall's Park Road, Bristol, BS8 1PY, UK > tel: +44 (0)117 3310914 e-mail: Alan.R.Lockett@bristol.ac.uk > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >