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2005-11-07 21:14chthonic"Recent history has not been as kind to James and his near-universally reviled Drukgs albu

From:: chthonic <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 13:14:40 -0800
Subject:: [idm] aphex gets "complete apathy"?

"Recent history has not been as kind to James and his near-universally reviled Drukgs album, not to mention the complete apathy which has greeted his AFX titled Analord series." found at: http://junkmedia.org/?i=1764 funny, seems like the analord EPs were the most frequent topic of the past year on this list. i guess the opinions of the people belonging to the group that gave IDM its name don't count anymore? or did i miss the apathetic tone of those posts? d. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2005-11-07 22:11incredible weirdoUniversally reviled? Really? I thought the album was genius - all of it, even the prepared

From:: incredible weirdo <incredible.weirdo@gmail.com>
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Date:: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 16:11:14 -0600
Subject:: Re: [idm] aphex gets "complete apathy"?
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Universally reviled? Really? I thought the album was genius - all of it, even the prepared piano bits that had the IDM purists gagging (I recall one list member back when the album was released condemning the "general midi piano" pieces). I.W. On 11/7/05, chthonic <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com> wrote:

quoted 21 lines "Recent history has not been as kind to James and his near-universally

> > "Recent history has not been as kind to James and his near-universally > reviled Drukgs album, > not to mention the complete apathy which has greeted his AFX titled > Analord series." > found at: http://junkmedia.org/?i=1764 > > funny, seems like the analord EPs were the most frequent topic of the past > year on this list. i > guess the opinions of the people belonging to the group that gave IDM its > name don't count > anymore? or did i miss the apathetic tone of those posts? > > > d. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

2005-11-07 22:21theREALmxyzptlki >>not to mention the complete apathy which has greeted his AFX titled >>Analord series."

From:: theREALmxyzptlk <theREALmxyzptlk@comcast.net>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 07 Nov 2005 17:21:13 -0500
Subject:: Re: [idm] aphex gets "complete apathy"?
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quoted 6 lines not to mention the complete apathy which has greeted his AFX titled

>>not to mention the complete apathy which has greeted his AFX titled >>Analord series." >>found at: http://junkmedia.org/?i=1764 >> >> >

I would have a hard time translating copies of Analord 10 going for close to $300 on eBay as "near apathy". In defense of RDJ, no matter what he puts out now he can't please everybody, nor do I expect everything he does to be as groundbreaking as "I Care...". I do recall quite clearly that the Richard D James record was slagged in many corners when it was released as well. Funny how memory gets selective when one has a point to make. When it comes to IDM, it seems like either the inhabitants on this list are out of touch or else many sites which whiip out "reviews" that feature quotes like the one above are. I'll put my money on the latter being out of sync, for what that's worth. Seems like part and parcel of IDM is indifference to what is thought by 'outsiders' anyway. Elitism is the stuff of most niche-based music nerds in one way or another. jeff --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2005-11-07 23:01Jong-Ilist Massivehi my name is richard d. james and you can thank me for creating this entire genre wheneve

From:: Jong-Ilist Massive <meatsock@gmail.com>
To:: <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 18:01:59 -0500
Subject:: Re: [idm] aphex gets "complete apathy"?
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hi my name is richard d. james and you can thank me for creating this entire genre whenever you want, as soon as you get done bitching about the fact that i don't sell enough collector edition 5 CD tins with keychains and decorative whistles. On 11/7/05, chthonic <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com> wrote:

quoted 16 lines "Recent history has not been as kind to James and his near-universally reviled Drukgs

> "Recent history has not been as kind to James and his near-universally reviled Drukgs album, > not to mention the complete apathy which has greeted his AFX titled Analord series." > found at: http://junkmedia.org/?i=1764 > > funny, seems like the analord EPs were the most frequent topic of the past year on this list. i > guess the opinions of the people belonging to the group that gave IDM its name don't count > anymore? or did i miss the apathetic tone of those posts? > > > d. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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2005-11-07 22:15David @ Audiobulbfor me - some of the piano pieces are the best peices on there ----- Original Message ----

From:: David @ Audiobulb <dwnewman@clara.co.uk>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 22:15:49 -0000
Subject:: Re: [idm] aphex gets "complete apathy"?

for me - some of the piano pieces are the best peices on there ----- Original Message ----- From: "incredible weirdo" <incredible.weirdo@gmail.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 10:11 PM Subject: Re: [idm] aphex gets "complete apathy"? Universally reviled? Really? I thought the album was genius - all of it, even the prepared piano bits that had the IDM purists gagging (I recall one list member back when the album was released condemning the "general midi piano" pieces). I.W. On 11/7/05, chthonic <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com> wrote:

quoted 21 lines "Recent history has not been as kind to James and his near-universally

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2005-11-07 23:30Obed VentoI'm with the drukqs lovers, piano pieces and all The entire album was dope -----Original M

From:: Obed Vento <ovento@keyleadsonline.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 18:30:28 -0500
Subject:: RE: [idm] aphex gets "complete apathy"?
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I'm with the drukqs lovers, piano pieces and all The entire album was dope -----Original Message----- From: David @ Audiobulb [mailto:dwnewman@clara.co.uk] Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 5:16 PM To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [idm] aphex gets "complete apathy"? for me - some of the piano pieces are the best peices on there ----- Original Message ----- From: "incredible weirdo" <incredible.weirdo@gmail.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 10:11 PM Subject: Re: [idm] aphex gets "complete apathy"? Universally reviled? Really? I thought the album was genius - all of it, even the prepared piano bits that had the IDM purists gagging (I recall one list member back when the album was released condemning the "general midi piano" pieces). I.W. On 11/7/05, chthonic <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com> wrote:

quoted 8 lines "Recent history has not been as kind to James and his near-universally

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2005-11-08 05:05Kent WilliamsI really got into Drukqs only a few months ago, when I grabbed the mp3s (and Analord) off

From:: Kent Williams <chaircrusher@gmail.com>
To:: do id <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 7 Nov 2005 23:05:24 -0600
Subject:: Re: [idm] aphex gets "complete apathy"?
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I really got into Drukqs only a few months ago, when I grabbed the mp3s (and Analord) off of bittorrent to listen to at work. I put drukqs and analord on shuffle play and went back to figuring out how to read DICOM image files, and after a few shuffles through I decided it was way better than listening to the CD had been when it came out. I liked the Analord tracks because they remind me a lot of the stuff he was doing early on, without being the same thing over again. Drukqs also comes into a new focus if you listen to the arrangements on the Alarm Will Sound Acoustica CD. Some of the Alarm Will Sound renditions are of the talking dog variety -- a talking dog is amazing, even if he doesn't talk very well -- but it made me listen to the Drukqs tracks again the way the arrangers did -- hearing all the bits in the RDJ arrangements that slid by unnoticed before. I don't think anyone should get by with weak tracks just because they're famous, but Aphex Twin is a sneaky bastard, and you can miss some of his best stuff if you aren't listening closely. On 11/7/05, Obed Vento <ovento@keyleadsonline.com> wrote:

quoted 65 lines I'm with the drukqs lovers, piano pieces and all

> > I'm with the drukqs lovers, piano pieces and all > > The entire album was dope > > -----Original Message----- > From: David @ Audiobulb [mailto:dwnewman@clara.co.uk] > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 5:16 PM > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [idm] aphex gets "complete apathy"? > > for me - some of the piano pieces are the best peices on there > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "incredible weirdo" <incredible.weirdo@gmail.com> > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 10:11 PM > Subject: Re: [idm] aphex gets "complete apathy"? > > > Universally reviled? Really? I thought the album was genius - all of it, > even the prepared piano bits that had the IDM purists gagging (I recall > one > list member back when the album was released condemning the "general > midi > piano" pieces). > I.W. > > On 11/7/05, chthonic <chthonic@chthonicstreams.com> wrote: > > > > "Recent history has not been as kind to James and his near-universally > > reviled Drukgs album, > > not to mention the complete apathy which has greeted his AFX titled > > Analord series." > > found at: http://junkmedia.org/?i=1764 > > > > funny, seems like the analord EPs were the most frequent topic of the > past > > year on this list. i > > guess the opinions of the people belonging to the group that gave IDM > its > > name don't count > > anymore? or did i miss the apathetic tone of those posts? > > > > > > d. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

2005-11-09 19:57Adrien CapozziMy disappointment with Drukqs was due to the many tracks that were high on drill & bass hi

From:: Adrien Capozzi <a@adrien75.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 9 Nov 2005 11:57:01 -0800
Subject:: Re: [idm] aphex gets "complete apathy"? / Raymond Scott/ subotnick

My disappointment with Drukqs was due to the many tracks that were high on drill & bass hi-jinks and low on melodic sensibilities. when they two came together, as on "Meltphace 6" I was blown away. unfortunately, that did not happen on very many tracks. The mellow tracks I enjoy, including his homages to Erik Satie and John Cage (i.e.: the piano pieces). The intriguing aspect to the analord 12"s is the very old school sound of the synths. I mean, some of the sounds are just like ones you hear on Raymond Scotts stuff (specifically: "The Bass Line Generator" and "Night & Day" from the Manhattan Research Project) Speaking of IDM from the 60's (and PLEASE, NO MORE WHAT IS IDM? questions. It's electronic music for nerds. like, duh) I finally got a chance to hear Morton Subotnick's music. 'The Wild Bull' from 1967 is freakin hardcore IDM. I'm not usually taken by the "academic" take on electronic music - but this is some intense stuff ,set to a drum machine/sequencer. Seriously, I can imagine Autechre listening to this after making LP7 and thinking "Oh shit. this is from '67? we need to get hardcore just to catch up to this" and yeah - the Alarm Will Sound covers of Aphex Twin are nifty indeed. much more interesting than the aphex/philip glass thing. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kent Williams" <chaircrusher@gmail.com> To: "do id" <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Monday, November 07, 2005 9:05 PM Subject: Re: [idm] aphex gets "complete apathy"? I really got into Drukqs only a few months ago, when I grabbed the mp3s (and Analord) off of bittorrent to listen to at work. I put drukqs and analord on shuffle play and went back to figuring out how to read DICOM image files, and after a few shuffles through I decided it was way better than listening to the CD had been when it came out. I liked the Analord tracks because they remind me a lot of the stuff he was doing early on, without being the same thing over again. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Re: [idm] aphex gets "complete apathy"? / Raymond Scott/ subotnick