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2003-10-14 20:09pietrobot [idm] * 8bitpeoples News Updates! *
2003-10-14 21:32[idm] political leanings of modern artists.
└─ 2003-10-14 21:57Eggy Toast Re: [idm] political leanings of modern artists.
2003-10-14 23:46Re: [idm] political leanings of modern artists.
└─ 2003-10-15 04:56Greg Clow Re: [idm] political leanings of modern artists.
2003-10-15 09:01headphone science Re: [idm] political leanings of modern artists.
2003-10-16 23:34Josh Steiner Re: [idm] political leanings of modern artists.
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2003-10-14 20:09pietrobotList: 8bitpeoples URL: http://www.8bitpeoples.com ----------------------------------------
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List: 8bitpeoples URL: http://www.8bitpeoples.com ------------------------------------------------------------ ////////// / / / / / / / /// 8bitpeoples.com! /// / / / / / / / ////////// Hey again! Things at 8bitpeoples are starting to heat up again ... Its been awhile since the last email update, so get ready! //New Release!!! First off we have to mention that Mesu Kasumai is back with a great new release titled 3 channel metropolitan featuring all original tunes as well as a remix by Project 65. This album follows the same simple waveform synthesis as his previous release My Fiero did ... only this time, the material is as genuine as the sound that carries it. As well as his new album, we would like to announce that Mesu will be doing a live broadcast on sunday night, october 19th at 10pm EST (gmt - 05:00). Go pick up the new album quick, and make sure to tune in to the broadcast as the set will include all new never released material, as well as old favorites. To find out more about the broadcast check this: http://mesukasumai.8bitpeoples.com/antenna.html //Upcoming Release!! It should be mentioned that he new release by Mesu Kasumai has actually been available on the 8bitpeoples website for some time, so if you this is the first you have heard of it, then maybe you should be checking up at the site more often! ;] Anyway, maybe some news about an upcoming release by Sabastian Boaz coming (very) soon will keep you on your toes ... those with the quickest link clicking fingers will be the ones to scoop this up first! //Random News Bits! Here it is, little new bits, its time for the speed round! - #8bitpeoples IRC channel on IRCnet Come drop in and chat with us, hear all the dirty rumors before they hit the tabloids ... word on the street is that a certain 8bitpeoples member was caught two-timing with a hot piece of sega hardware while his nintendo sat loyally at home! - 8bitpeoples Collection at Archive.org In addition to being able to grab all of our past releases from scene.org you can now also choose to get them from The Internet Archive! Some nice features include the ability to stream releases to preview them, download an entire releases in a zip file, and leave comments and rate releases! A very big thanks to archive.org for providing this space for us! Also be sure to check out the other netlabels at the archive, like monotonik among others! - Making (and Breaking) the News! 8bitpeoples and some of its members have recently been making headlines! A recent MSNBC article titled "Play that Funky Music GameBoy" mentions 8bitpeoples and nullsleep. Also, in the most recent issue of Wired magazine (november), 8bit maniacs such as nullsleep, rolemodel, glomag, bit shifter, and mark denardo are mentioned in a piece titled "8bit Punk" ... Check it! That should keep you busy for awhile! Quicklinkz will follow below ... So until, next time ... keep it 8bit! Sincerely, The 8bitpeoples ::QuickLinkz!:: http://www.8bitpeoples.com http://www.8bitpeoples.com/discography_gfx.php#8BP034 http://mesukasumai.8bitpeoples.com/antenna.html http://irc.8bitpeoples.com http://www.archive.org/audio/collection.php?collection=8bitpeoples http://www.msnbc.com/news/972272.asp Click to be removed: http://MessageBot.com/r.cgi?list=8bitpeoples ------------------------------------------------------------ Powered by http://MessageBot.com/ Get Cool Images at http://www.flamingtext.com/mb.html --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-10-14 21:32enamelshrugs@hotmail.comso clearly a lot of folk have kept quiet... and clearly a lot of folk have spoken out AGAI
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so clearly a lot of folk have kept quiet... and clearly a lot of folk have spoken out AGAINST the bush administration... but, out of curiosity, does anyone know of any modern "intelligent" (just meant to exclude the corporate teen-pop/rap'n'roll/alt.rock scene musings, not that they're not valid... well, ok... they're not. clearly this point could be up for debate, but let's just run with the assumption that these people's public opinions are not wholly their own and thus do not count for this survey... apologies for this incredibly long parenthetical splice...) artists in SUPPORT of the bush administration's policies and behaviour? and let's not qualify 'intelligent' by their opinions on the matter, either, shall we? i just have the impression that modern forward-thinking/underground art 'scene' is almost entirely polarized against the current administration... but i'd like a chance to prove that i've been brainwashed by the 'liberal media'. Vincent Gallo springs to mind as someone i've read to have some fairly strong conservative leanings... but i've no idea as to his position on the current administration. just a curiosity... and i don't feel that it's entirely off-topic. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-10-14 21:57Eggy Toast> so clearly a lot of folk have kept quiet... probably because it's the idm list. derek --
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quoted 1 line so clearly a lot of folk have kept quiet...> so clearly a lot of folk have kept quiet...
probably because it's the idm list. derek -- eggytoast.com : eggtastic.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-10-14 23:46enamelshrugs@hotmail.com> > so clearly a lot of folk have kept quiet... > > probably because it's the idm list. >
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quoted 7 lines so clearly a lot of folk have kept quiet...> > so clearly a lot of folk have kept quiet... > > probably because it's the idm list. > > derek > -- > eggytoast.com : eggtastic.com
yeah... i was actually talking about "folk" as artists, not folks on the idm list... sorry, i could've been clearer with that opening. i'm not particularly interested in the political leanings of idm-listers, although the unfortunate truth is that this question could possibly lead into a lot of that. i'm just interested in finding out whether anyone knows of any 'relevant' modern artists who've come out in consistent support of the bush admin. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-10-15 04:56Greg ClowAt 07:46 PM 14/10/03, enamelshrugs@hotmail.com wrote: >i'm just interested in finding out
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At 07:46 PM 14/10/03, enamelshrugs@hotmail.com wrote:
quoted 2 lines i'm just interested in finding out whether anyone knows of any 'relevant'>i'm just interested in finding out whether anyone knows of any 'relevant' >modern artists who've come out in consistent support of the bush admin.
I really don't think this is the right mailing list to be asking these sort of questions, as the music that is discussed here is generally quite apolitical. IDM artists aren't really known for having active public personas for the most part, and when they do interviews, politics are rarely discussed. I will say, though, that MOST of the artistic people I know personally - including underground eletronic musicians - tend to be left-leaning in their politics. But I don't think that's anything new, as most artistic subcultures North America in the last 100 years or more have tended to have progressive, left-wing political leanings. Greg :::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Greg Clow ::: greg@stainedproductions.com ::::::::: concert & event promotions ::: http://www.stainedproductions.com :::::: electronic music radio & reviews ::: http://www.feedbackmonitor.com ::: electronic/experimental record label ::: http://www.pieheadrecords.com ::::::::: 158 Close Ave. 2nd Floor ::: Toronto, Ontario M6K 2V5 ::: Canada --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-10-15 09:01headphone science>From: Greg Clow <greg@stainedproductions.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm]
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quoted 8 lines From: Greg Clow <greg@stainedproductions.com>>From: Greg Clow <greg@stainedproductions.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] political leanings of modern artists. >Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:56:24 -0400 > >I really don't think this is the right mailing list to be asking these sort >of questions, as the music that is discussed here is generally quite >apolitical.
i have to disagree with this statement. i think this is a very valid question to be asked on this list. for one, i would find it very interesting to hear if there are any artists out there who support bush...it would definitely make me think more when listening to their music. and second, we shouldn't be so stand-offish when it comes to politics and when someone asks a question like the one this thread sprouted from we should actually think about it and not condemn that person for asking. this list does not always have to be so immature. also, i'd like to say that more artists should express their political views more. music can be a very powerful tool when it's used properly and plus we need a public enemy-type element in this sound...or even an ultra-conservative view, it just can't all be nerds with computers. the only people i can think of at the moment that do anything similar to this is the beta bodega cats...but they're always talking about central and south american politics it seems, but at least they're talking about something. so, now am i wrong for writing this? :dustin
quoted 37 lines From: Greg Clow <greg@stainedproductions.com>>From: Greg Clow <greg@stainedproductions.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] political leanings of modern artists. >Date: Wed, 15 Oct 2003 00:56:24 -0400 > >At 07:46 PM 14/10/03, enamelshrugs@hotmail.com wrote: > >>i'm just interested in finding out whether anyone knows of any 'relevant' >>modern artists who've come out in consistent support of the bush admin. > >I really don't think this is the right mailing list to be asking these sort >of questions, as the music that is discussed here is generally quite >apolitical. IDM artists aren't really known for having active public >personas for the most part, and when they do interviews, politics are >rarely discussed. > >I will say, though, that MOST of the artistic people I know personally - >including underground eletronic musicians - tend to be left-leaning in >their politics. But I don't think that's anything new, as most artistic >subcultures North America in the last 100 years or more have tended to have >progressive, left-wing political leanings. > > >Greg > > >:::::::::::::::::::::::::::::::: Greg Clow ::: greg@stainedproductions.com >::::::::: concert & event promotions ::: http://www.stainedproductions.com >:::::: electronic music radio & reviews ::: http://www.feedbackmonitor.com >::: electronic/experimental record label ::: http://www.pieheadrecords.com >::::::::: 158 Close Ave. 2nd Floor ::: Toronto, Ontario M6K 2V5 ::: Canada > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2003-10-16 23:34Josh Steinerand thus, the pointless pissing contest ended :) :) :) -- ________________________________
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and thus, the pointless pissing contest ended :) :) :) -- ____________________________________________________ independent u.s. drum'n'bass -- http://vitriolix.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org