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Re: [idm] what's in a name

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2000-11-08 21:49Kent williams [idm] what's in a name
2003-04-22 10:06Irene McC [idm] what's in a name
└─ 2003-04-22 13:58EggyToast Re: [idm] what's in a name
└─ 2003-04-22 14:33Kent williams Re: [idm] what's in a name
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2000-11-08 21:49Kent williamsWhatever. IDM is here to stay as a marketing term. I keep seeing it turn up in magazines a
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Wed, 8 Nov 2000 15:49:34 -0600 (CST)
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Whatever. IDM is here to stay as a marketing term. I keep seeing it turn up in magazines as though it's as accepted and self-evident as KHz, or D&B. Maybe if we start saying that it isn't an acronym for anything, then we don't have to defend 'intelligent': "It's EYE DEE EM AND IT JUST MEANS EYE DEE EM"; kent williams -- kent@avalon.net http://jump.to/cornwarning -- Iowa's First Techno Record Label http://www.mp3.com/chaircrusher -- tunes --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-04-22 10:06Irene McCListening to Panasonic's Kulma over the weekend made me think of how they had to change th
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Listening to Panasonic's Kulma over the weekend made me think of how they had to change their name to Pan Sonic and Hoover and now Hooverphonic. Yet Aphex 'gets away' with tracks titled Alberto Balsam and Ventolin. How does this work? And where's the logic? I * --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-04-22 13:58EggyToastIrene McC said: > Listening to Panasonic's Kulma over the weekend made me think of how > t
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Tue, 22 Apr 2003 09:58:33 -0400 (EDT)
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Irene McC said:
quoted 1 line Listening to Panasonic's Kulma over the weekend made me think of> Listening to Panasonic's Kulma over the weekend made me think of
how
quoted 6 lines they had to change their name to Pan Sonic and Hoover and now> they had to change their name to Pan Sonic and Hoover and now > Hooverphonic. > > Yet Aphex 'gets away' with tracks titled Alberto Balsam and Ventolin. > > How does this work? And where's the logic?
yet aphex has to put on all of his releases now that Aphex is a registered trademark of Aphex Systems, makers of some music gear. it's easy -- panasonic and hoover are very large companies that value their names a lot. So they actively pursue those that use those names in media. Aphex already modified Alberto Balsalm (adding the last "l") and "ventolin" may be a drug name, but most likely the company responsible for the drug name never bothered to hunt down RDJ regarding the name use, as asthma medicine and electronic music are rather different fields. -- eggytoast.com - eggtastic.com ------ it's in your grocer's freezer --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-04-22 14:33Kent williamsIt is also important to make the distinction between a song title and an artist's moniker.
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Tue, 22 Apr 2003 09:33:36 -0500 (CDT)
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It is also important to make the distinction between a song title and an artist's moniker. An artist's name (i.e. Aphex Twin) is, in the world of business, a brand name. Artists and record companies go to great lengths to establish brand identity, with the exact same goals as companies like Kimberly Clark and Nabisco. The titles of works of art are not subject to copyright or trademark. Conversely, I think that you wouldn't get far calling a song title a trademark infringement. The category error -- a Brand versus a finite work of art, is actually recognized legally. I think the reason Aphex didn't go after Aphex Twin more forcefully was that it's a relatively small company, and it's not lost on them that Aphex Twin has probably raised their brand's visibility in ways they'd never be able to do on their own. The notice on the CDs is a win win. By contrast, I doubt he could have lasted long as the Coca Cola Twin or the Kleenex Twin. On Tue, 22 Apr 2003, EggyToast wrote:
quoted 13 lines Irene McC said:> Irene McC said: > > Listening to Panasonic's Kulma over the weekend made me think of > how > > they had to change their name to Pan Sonic and Hoover and now > > Hooverphonic. > > > > Yet Aphex 'gets away' with tracks titled Alberto Balsam and Ventolin. > > > > How does this work? And where's the logic? > > yet aphex has to put on all of his releases now that Aphex is a > registered trademark of Aphex Systems, makers of some music gear. >
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