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2003-01-01 12:00soplerfo Re: RE: [idm] This might be of interest...
2003-01-08 13:50The REAL Mxyzptlk [idm] This might be of interest...
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2003-01-11 02:05Andrew Hime II - Andrew Hime's Revenge, Esquire Re: [idm] This might be of interest...
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2003-01-01 12:00soplerfoit's not a scam: http://wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,57111,00.html -sam out now - SAMple
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it's not a scam: http://wired.com/news/digiwood/0,1412,57111,00.html -sam out now - SAMpler 7" (Crabouiller Record Company) out soon - EP for dogs 12" (ZOD Records) http://www.lollygagger.org/soplerfo http://www.lollygagger.org/crabouiller You Wrote: ---------- it's probably not a scam, as the maximum amount of money an individual stands to receive is $20 (yes, I read the whole thing...could I have the last 20 minutes of my life back, please!?!?). But you're right, the entire thing could be a huge marketing/promotions/info gathering expedition. What better way to get names of all your customers? Sorry, but 76,000,000 or whatever is a slight price to pay for these cats. Personally I'm not going to waste my time getting involved in any crap like that, especially if the _______________________________________________________ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-01-08 13:50The REAL MxyzptlkI had this bounced to me this morning. I haven't had time to mull over the implications, b
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I had this bounced to me this morning. I haven't had time to mull over the implications, but... Visit this website to sign up for your pound of flesh from the major record > labels. It's the website set up for settlement of the cd price fixing lawsuit > filed against the major labels. > > http://www.musiccdsettlement.com/english/default.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-01-09 15:27pixilatedThis looks like a scam. Is this for real? Why do they need all that personal information?
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This looks like a scam. Is this for real? Why do they need all that personal information? -----Original Message----- From: The REAL Mxyzptlk [mailto:therealmxyzptlk@comcast.net] Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 8:50 AM To: idm@hyperreal.org Cc: ambient@hyperreal.org; idm-m Subject: [idm] This might be of interest... I had this bounced to me this morning. I haven't had time to mull over the implications, but... Visit this website to sign up for your pound of flesh from the major record > labels. It's the website set up for settlement of the cd price fixing lawsuit > filed against the major labels. > > http://www.musiccdsettlement.com/english/default.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-01-09 16:08Andrew HimeOn Thu, 9 Jan 2003 10:27:50 -0500 "pixilated" <pixilated@alum.dartmouth.org> wrote: >This
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On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 10:27:50 -0500 "pixilated" <pixilated@alum.dartmouth.org> wrote:
quoted 3 lines This looks like a scam. Is this for real? Why do they>This looks like a scam. Is this for real? Why do they >need all that >personal information?
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2003-01-09 16:17EggyToast>On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 10:27:50 -0500 > "pixilated" <pixilated@alum.dartmouth.org> wrote: >>T
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quoted 6 lines On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 10:27:50 -0500>On Thu, 9 Jan 2003 10:27:50 -0500 > "pixilated" <pixilated@alum.dartmouth.org> wrote: >>This looks like a scam. Is this for real? Why do they need all that >>personal information? > >Because it's a settlement for a class action lawsuit?
Yeah, and they do need a bit of info if they're not investigating the claimants. For instance, some people on the list may remember the Schwanz salmonella ice cream debacle in '94. I actually got salmonella from their ice cream, and as thus, was able to be a claimant. Of course, I was under 18 at the time, so me mum had to do it, but she had to give them her personal info to make sure she didn't try to get more than our "fair share" out of it. Ended up with 80 bucks for our trouble, too :) Now, if you needed to show receipts or other stuff, they obviously wouldn't need as much personal info, since you're giving them another piece of ID for you. derek -- eggytoast.com -------------- commerce soon: eggtastic.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-01-09 18:58ben gillit's probably not a scam, as the maximum amount of money an individual stands to receive i
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it's probably not a scam, as the maximum amount of money an individual stands to receive is $20 (yes, I read the whole thing...could I have the last 20 minutes of my life back, please!?!?). But you're right, the entire thing could be a huge marketing/promotions/info gathering expedition. What better way to get names of all your customers? Sorry, but 76,000,000 or whatever is a slight price to pay for these cats. Personally I'm not going to waste my time getting involved in any crap like that, especially if the "reward" needs scare quotes to qualify it... np - timbaland - we at it again (note the "get crunk get crunk get crunk" bits...."now laaaaaadddddiiiiiieeeeeezzzzzzzzz....ficke ficke ficke fellas"). Big ups the mouth-scratch. Ben --- pixilated <pixilated@alum.dartmouth.org> wrote:
quoted 29 lines This looks like a scam. Is this for real? Why do> This looks like a scam. Is this for real? Why do > they need all that > personal information? > > -----Original Message----- > From: The REAL Mxyzptlk > [mailto:therealmxyzptlk@comcast.net] > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2003 8:50 AM > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Cc: ambient@hyperreal.org; idm-m > Subject: [idm] This might be of interest... > > > I had this bounced to me this morning. I haven't had > time to mull over > the > implications, but... > > Visit this website to sign up for your pound of > flesh from the major > record > labels. It's the website set up for > settlement of the cd price > fixing lawsuit > filed against the major labels. > > > > http://www.musiccdsettlement.com/english/default.htm > > > >
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2003-01-09 20:17The REAL MxyzptlkI go back and forth on this, but yes...Huxley seems more the prophet than Orwell - at leas
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I go back and forth on this, but yes...Huxley seems more the prophet than Orwell - at least today. And that's very topical on IDM-l. jeff --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-01-09 15:32Oneaphex@aol.comit's definitely not worth it considering the most you might get out of it is $20.
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it's definitely not worth it considering the most you might get out of it is $20.
2003-01-09 15:45Matt JarskyApparently it IS legit: http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/nothing/cdrefund.asp Matt > -----Ori
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Apparently it IS legit: http://www.snopes.com/inboxer/nothing/cdrefund.asp Matt
quoted 12 lines -----Original Message-----> -----Original Message----- > From: Oneaphex@aol.com [mailto:Oneaphex@aol.com] > Sent: January 9, 2003 11:33 AM > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: Re: [idm] This might be of interest... > > > > it's definitely not worth it considering the most you might get > out of it is > $20. >
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2003-01-09 16:49The REAL MxyzptlkThe word "might" was the qualifier. As to the notion of the need for personal information,
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The word "might" was the qualifier. As to the notion of the need for personal information, any legal action of such nature is going to require such if you are a claimant, so that - in and of itself - certainly doesn't point to a scam (and besides, there ways to check authenticity of a legal suit if that is a concern). As to the pittance of the reward values, the amounts would have to be multiplied exponentially to see it as a punitive measure against labels involved in price-fixing...so the point becomes one of principle (for those who are inclined) as opposed to a matter of personal monetary gain. RE: had this bounced to me this morning. I haven't had time to mull over the implications, but... Visit this website to sign up for your pound of flesh from the major record > labels. It's the website set up for settlement of the cd price fixing lawsuit > filed against the major labels. > > http://www.musiccdsettlement.com/english/default.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-01-09 15:51pixilatedI don't recall any other class action notices I've received ever requiring such extensive
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I don't recall any other class action notices I've received ever requiring such extensive personal information. This seems very fishy... -----Original Message----- From: The REAL Mxyzptlk [mailto:therealmxyzptlk@comcast.net] Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2003 11:50 AM To: idm@hyperreal.org Cc: pixilated@alum.dartmouth.org; Oneaphex@aol.com Subject: Re: [idm] This might be of interest... The word "might" was the qualifier. As to the notion of the need for personal information, any legal action of such nature is going to require such if you are a claimant, so that - in and of itself - certainly doesn't point to a scam (and besides, there ways to check authenticity of a legal suit if that is a concern). As to the pittance of the reward values, the amounts would have to be multiplied exponentially to see it as a punitive measure against labels involved in price-fixing...so the point becomes one of principle (for those who are inclined) as opposed to a matter of personal monetary gain. RE: had this bounced to me this morning. I haven't had time to mull over the implications, but... Visit this website to sign up for your pound of flesh from the major record > labels. It's the website set up for settlement of the cd price fixing lawsuit > filed against the major labels. > > http://www.musiccdsettlement.com/english/default.htm --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-01-09 16:07"kiya \"iamacopier\" babzani" <denial@ix.netcom.com>On 1/9/03 7:51 AM, "pixilated" <pixilated@alum.dartmouth.org> wrote: > I don't recall any
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On 1/9/03 7:51 AM, "pixilated" <pixilated@alum.dartmouth.org> wrote:
quoted 8 lines I don't recall any other class action notices I've received ever> I don't recall any other class action notices I've received ever > requiring such extensive personal information. This seems very fishy... > RE: > had this bounced to me this morning. I haven't had time to mull over the > implications, but... Visit this website to sign up for your pound of > flesh from the major record > labels. It's the website set up for > settlement of the cd price fixing lawsuit > filed against the major > labels. > > http://www.musiccdsettlement.com/english/default.htm
ok.. some quick facts to clear up some confusion. -this IS fully legit -it's one pre-determined sum of money that's going out -so that means the less people that fill out the form, the more each person gets -the most every person can receive is 20 US dollars -the least every person can receive is 5 US dollars -if it gets divided between too many people and the per person figure drops below 5 dollars, then nobody gets shit because it'd be too expensive for them to send out 2 dollar checks -if too many people sign up, and nobody gets anything, all the money goes to "charities" -if this url gets circulated enough, basically, the money doesn't go to the people who supposedly deserve it, it goes to charities and such... :) Church's is still way more ghetto than Popeye's will ever be. E-40 says so. info-man, kiya iamacopierltd. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-01-09 20:13seeklektek----- Original Message ----- From: "kiya "iamacopier" babzani" Subject: Re: [idm] This mig
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quoted 5 lines Church's is still way more ghetto than Popeye's will ever be.> Church's is still way more ghetto than Popeye's will ever be. > E-40 says so. > info-man, > kiya > iamacopierltd.
For late-night hold-ups, Church's is preferred 2-to-1 over Popeye's by crack-head stick-up-artists. Sometimes they even let the employees live. HTH .o0O}seeklektek{O0o. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-01-09 20:19seeklektekFrom: "Andrew Hime" Subject: Re: [idm] This might be of interest... > "pixilated" wrote: >
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quoted 4 lines "pixilated" wrote:> "pixilated" wrote: > >This looks like a scam. Is this for real? Why do they > >need all that > >personal information?
quoted 1 line Because it's a settlement for a class action lawsuit?> Because it's a settlement for a class action lawsuit?
Eggs-actly! Obviously, potential double-dippers need to be screened-out. Substantiation is necessary for valid disbursement of the entire settlement. .o0O}seeklektek{O0o. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-01-09 20:25Marco Carbone> Eggs-actly! Obviously, potential double-dippers need to be screened-out. > Substantiatio
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quoted 2 lines Eggs-actly! Obviously, potential double-dippers need to be screened-out.> Eggs-actly! Obviously, potential double-dippers need to be screened-out. > Substantiation is necessary for valid disbursement of the entire settlement.
and i don't think the last 4 digits of your SSN will enable them to do much anyway. this thing is real - the problem is, it's also pretty useless. as of 3 or 4 days ago, very few people had heard of this thing, but now I've seen it in many places which means that so many people will sign up that the claimants will probably get no money. so the only effect it will really have is to *slightly* hurt the record companies, and not benefit the consumers who get duped. but i guess that's how the law works. it's just like the gw bush tax refund last year - it didn't really help anyone (c'mon what would $300 do for anyone) but hurt the government (and cost a heck of a lot of money to send out all those checks). --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-01-09 21:00seeklektekFrom: "The REAL Mxyzptlk" Subject: RE: [idm] This might be of interest... > I go back and
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quoted 5 lines I go back and forth on this, but yes...Huxley seems more the prophet than> I go back and forth on this, but yes...Huxley seems more the prophet than > Orwell - at least today. > And that's very topical on IDM-l. > > jeff
Huxley went out in style: Laura Huxley gave Aldous on his deathbed, at his request, two injections of 100mg of LSD: A decision had been made. Suddenly he had accepted the fact of death; now, he had taken this moksha-medicine in which he believed. Once again he was doing what he had written in 'Island', and I had the feeling that he was interested and relieved and quiet. I began to talk to him, saying, 'Light and free you let go, darling; forward and up. You are going forward and up; you are going toward the light. Willingly and consciously you are going, willingly and consciously, and you are doing this beautifully; you are doing this so beautifully - you are going toward the light - you are going toward the light - you are going toward a greater love - you are going forward and up. It is so easy - it is so beautiful.' Once I asked him, 'Do you hear me?' He squeezed my hand; he was hearing me. The breathing became slower and slower, and there was absolutely not the slightest indication of contraction, of struggle. The ceasing of life was not a drama at all, but like a piece of music just finishing so gently in a sempre più piano, dolcemente ... and at five-twenty the breathing stoppped If the way Aldous died were known, it might awaken people to the awareness that not only this, but many other facts described in 'Island' are possible here and now. Aldous asking for the moksha-medicine while dying is not only a confirmation of his open-mindness and courage, but as such a last gesture of continuing importance. Is his way of dying to remain for his friends, and only for us, a relief and consulation, or should others also benefit from it? Aren't we all nobly born and entitled to noble dying? Adapted from 'This Timeless Moment' by Laura Archera Huxley. Laura Huxley gave Aldous on his deathbed, at his request, two injections of 100mg of LSD: A decision had been made. Suddenly he had accepted the fact of death; now, he had taken this moksha-medicine in which he believed. Once again he was doing what he had written in 'Island', and I had the feeling that he was interested and relieved and quiet. I began to talk to him, saying, 'Light and free you let go, darling; forward and up. You are going forward and up; you are going toward the light. Willingly and consciously you are going, willingly and consciously, and you are doing this beautifully; you are doing this so beautifully - you are going toward the light - you are going toward the light - you are going toward a greater love - you are going forward and up. It is so easy - it is so beautiful.' Once I asked him, 'Do you hear me?' He squeezed my hand; he was hearing me. The breathing became slower and slower, and there was absolutely not the slightest indication of contraction, of struggle. The ceasing of life was not a drama at all, but like a piece of music just finishing so gently in a sempre più piano, dolcemente ... and at five-twenty the breathing stoppped If the way Aldous died were known, it might awaken people to the awareness that not only this, but many other facts described in 'Island' are possible here and now. Aldous asking for the moksha-medicine while dying is not only a confirmation of his open-mindness and courage, but as such a last gesture of continuing importance. Is his way of dying to remain for his friends, and only for us, a relief and consulation, or should others also benefit from it? Aren't we all nobly born and entitled to noble dying? HTH .o0O}seeklektek{O0o. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-01-10 11:32Ask Solem HoelOn Thu, 2003-01-09 at 22:00, seeklektek wrote: >two injections of 100mg of LSD: two inject
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quoted 1 line two injections of 100mg of LSD:>two injections of 100mg of LSD:
two injection of 100mg of LSD?!? ^^^^^ does indeed sound like instant death :) where's the fun in that? -- dwave --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-01-10 14:30Kent williamsI think they meant micrograms, though LSD has very low toxicity -- people have ingested as
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I think they meant micrograms, though LSD has very low toxicity -- people have ingested as much as a full gram of LSD and lived to tell the tale. Sort of. Just so this post isn't a total fucking waste -- I pulled a pile of CDs to take to work at random and have been digging these: Buse 24.001 (CDR) -- Rob gave me this at DEMF last year, and I finally got to listen to it closely. Dubby, chill, ambient techno that doesn't sound cookie cutter. -- Available for download @ www.filter24.org Bill Van Loo: Live @ Leopold Bros -- Bill puts the music back into experimental music. I love everything he does because it's pretty without being cloying. Pretty and challenging. On 10 Jan 2003, Ask Solem Hoel wrote:
quoted 9 lines On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 22:00, seeklektek wrote:> On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 22:00, seeklektek wrote: > >two injections of 100mg of LSD: > > two injection of 100mg of LSD?!? > ^^^^^ > > does indeed sound like instant death :) > where's the fun in that? >
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2003-01-10 16:15The REAL MxyzptlkAt 08:30 AM 1/10/2003, Kent williams wrote: >I think they meant micrograms, though LSD has
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At 08:30 AM 1/10/2003, Kent williams wrote:
quoted 3 lines I think they meant micrograms, though LSD has very low toxicity -- people>I think they meant micrograms, though LSD has very low toxicity -- people >have ingested as much as a full gram of LSD and lived to tell the tale. >Sort of.
This is probably correct. And I should amend my last post concerning may past with the qualifier that I really couldn't estimate how much I had ingested at one sitting as who knows how much they blotted onto those Mr. Natural men, windowpanes and cubes. I just know the men had perforations for quartering them and even a quarter seemed at least twice as powerful as a lot of what was available then (69-72). And I did a few whole "men" at once from some particularly good batches. Mind you, I was in a "safe" environment and I would not suggest anyone tries this at home. I was a professional driver in a closed course (then :-). Maybe that's why I see Huxley as more the prophet. jeff --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-01-10 15:54The REAL MxyzptlkWell, although I currently do not partake, I have a lysergically stained past. LSD is non-
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Well, although I currently do not partake, I have a lysergically stained past. LSD is non-toxic and theoretically should not kill you - although that is more than a whale-dose. I would imagine Huxley had connections for pharmaceutical grade acid; what usually presents problems is shoddy manufacturing which results in an LSD that is sort of a "rough fit" into the body's receptors, producing some of the less desirable fringe benefits. At least that's the way I had it explained to me by someone with a Ph.D in chemistry. Still, Aldous must have been serious about it. I think dosages start around 50 mics (although I have done as much as 2000 + in one sitting - but that was when the grade was pretty good. I'm probably older than the average lister :-). jeff At 05:32 AM 1/10/2003, Ask Solem Hoel wrote:
quoted 11 lines On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 22:00, seeklektek wrote:>On Thu, 2003-01-09 at 22:00, seeklektek wrote: > >two injections of 100mg of LSD: > >two injection of 100mg of LSD?!? > ^^^^^ > >does indeed sound like instant death :) >where's the fun in that? > >-- >dwave
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2003-01-09 22:02lysaabiWow - what motivation... he typed the whole thing TWICE!! :P seeklektek wrote: > From: "Th
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Wow - what motivation... he typed the whole thing TWICE!! :P seeklektek wrote:
quoted 79 lines From: "The REAL Mxyzptlk"> From: "The REAL Mxyzptlk" > Subject: RE: [idm] This might be of interest... > > > I go back and forth on this, but yes...Huxley seems more the prophet than > > Orwell - at least today. > > And that's very topical on IDM-l. > > > > jeff > > Huxley went out in style: > > Laura Huxley gave Aldous on his deathbed, at his request, two injections of > 100mg of LSD: > A decision had been made. Suddenly he had accepted the fact of death; now, > he had taken this moksha-medicine in which he believed. Once again he was > doing what he had written in 'Island', and I had the feeling that he was > interested and relieved and quiet. > > I began to talk to him, saying, 'Light and free you let go, darling; forward > and up. You are going forward and up; you are going toward the light. > Willingly and consciously you are going, willingly and consciously, and you > are doing this beautifully; you are doing this so beautifully - you are > going toward the light - you are going toward the light - you are going > toward a greater love - you are going forward and up. It is so easy - it is > so beautiful.' Once I asked him, 'Do you hear me?' He squeezed my hand; he > was hearing me. > > The breathing became slower and slower, and there was absolutely not the > slightest indication of contraction, of struggle. The ceasing of life was > not a drama at all, but like a piece of music just finishing so gently in a > sempre più piano, dolcemente ... and at five-twenty the breathing stoppped > > If the way Aldous died were known, it might awaken people to the awareness > that not only this, but many other facts described in 'Island' are possible > here and now. Aldous asking for the moksha-medicine while dying is not only > a confirmation of his open-mindness and courage, but as such a last gesture > of continuing importance. Is his way of dying to remain for his friends, and > only for us, a relief and consulation, or should others also benefit from > it? Aren't we all nobly born and entitled to noble dying? > > Adapted from 'This Timeless Moment' by Laura Archera Huxley. > > Laura Huxley gave Aldous on his deathbed, at his request, two injections of > 100mg of LSD: > > A decision had been made. Suddenly he had accepted the fact of death; now, > he had taken this moksha-medicine in which he believed. Once again he was > doing what he had written in 'Island', and I had the feeling that he was > interested and relieved and quiet. > > I began to talk to him, saying, 'Light and free you let go, darling; forward > and up. You are going forward and up; you are going toward the light. > Willingly and consciously you are going, willingly and consciously, and you > are doing this beautifully; you are doing this so beautifully - you are > going toward the light - you are going toward the light - you are going > toward a greater love - you are going forward and up. It is so easy - it is > so beautiful.' Once I asked him, 'Do you hear me?' He squeezed my hand; he > was hearing me. > > The breathing became slower and slower, and there was absolutely not the > slightest indication of contraction, of struggle. The ceasing of life was > not a drama at all, but like a piece of music just finishing so gently in a > sempre più piano, dolcemente ... and at five-twenty the breathing stoppped > > If the way Aldous died were known, it might awaken people to the awareness > that not only this, but many other facts described in 'Island' are possible > here and now. Aldous asking for the moksha-medicine while dying is not only > a confirmation of his open-mindness and courage, but as such a last gesture > of continuing importance. Is his way of dying to remain for his friends, and > only for us, a relief and consulation, or should others also benefit from > it? Aren't we all nobly born and entitled to noble dying? > > HTH > > .o0O}seeklektek{O0o. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2003-01-09 22:02Kevin M. Ryan<<it's definitely not worth it considering the most you might get out of it is $20.>> Are
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<<it's definitely not worth it considering the most you might get out of it is $20.>> Are you kidding? That's almost enough money to buy a new CD! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-01-10 06:13Z MoserI would have to disagree on this. 1984 is almost exact exaggeration of representation the
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I would have to disagree on this. 1984 is almost exact exaggeration of representation the United States today...It's eerie at times. I'll go into it a little later, if you want, right now I am too tierd I haven't slept in 2 days. zach
quoted 12 lines I go back and forth on this, but yes...Huxley seems more the prophet than> >I go back and forth on this, but yes...Huxley seems more the prophet than >Orwell - at least today. >And that's very topical on IDM-l. > > jeff > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2003-01-10 15:41The REAL MxyzptlkI can't really devote time to this as I'm swamped in texts for school, but while I can see
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I can't really devote time to this as I'm swamped in texts for school, but while I can see some similarities between Orwell's general vision of the future (doublespeak, the propagandizing, etc.), Huxley's portrayal of humanity as "drowning in a sea of information/lacking the capacity to sort out the relevance" seems much more to the point. "Infotainment" as Mark E. Smith once put it. IMO, to make a comparison with the US and the draconian and spartan existence portrayed by Orwell is well beyond a hyperbolic stretch. Again, Huxley is much closer to the mark with the preoccupation of irrelevance. Huxley doesn't dodge the notion of propaganda; he simply doesn't make it as obvious. Additionally, it's not as most people in the US are living some kind of austere existence and giving lip service to "the party", for fear of death, either. It seems more like many are too busy with "infotainment", the latest reality shows and the trappings of the modern world to be bothered with the genuine. Of course, this is a sweeping generalization and, like I say, I go back and forth on this. I can see it both ways. When I study Orwell, I tilt that way a bit (in terms of his general themes) - but never so much as to take the spotlight off of Huxley. All of that is aside from considering Huxley's lampooning characterizations which are something else to consider. jeff At 12:13 AM 1/10/2003, you wrote:
quoted 17 lines I would have to disagree on this. 1984 is almost exact exaggeration of> I would have to disagree on this. 1984 is almost exact exaggeration of > representation the United States today...It's eerie at times. > >I'll go into it a little later, if you want, right now I am too tierd I >haven't slept in 2 days. > >zach > > >> >>I go back and forth on this, but yes...Huxley seems more the prophet than >>Orwell - at least today. >>And that's very topical on IDM-l. >> >> jeff >> >>
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2003-01-10 07:01seeklektek> I would have to disagree on this. 1984 is almost exact exaggeration of > representation
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quoted 6 lines I would have to disagree on this. 1984 is almost exact exaggeration of> I would have to disagree on this. 1984 is almost exact exaggeration of > representation the United States today...It's eerie at times. > I'll go into it a little later, if you want, right now I am too tierd I > haven't slept in 2 days. > > zach
http://tinyurl.com/4a98 Self-government is in inverse ratio to numbers. The larger the constituency, the less the value of any particular vote. When he is merely one of millions, the individual elector feels himself to be impotent, a negligible quantity. The candidates he has voted into office are far away, at the top of the pyramid of power. Theoretically they are the servants of the people; but in fact it is the servants who give orders and the people, far off at the base of the great pyramid, who must obey. Increasing population and advanced technology have resulted in an increase in the number and complexity of organizations, an increase in the amount of power concentrated in the hands of officials and a corresponding decrease in the amount of control exercised by electors, coupled with a decrease in the public's regard for democratic procedures. Already weakened by the vast impersonal forces at work in the modern world, democratic institutions are now being undermined from within by the politicians and their propagandists. Human beings act in a variety of irrational ways, but all of them seem to be capable, if given a fair chance, of making a reasonable choice in the light of available evidence. Democratic institutions can be made to work only if all concerned do their best to impart knowledge and to encourage rationality. But today, in the world's most powerful democracy, the politicians and their propagandists prefer to make nonsense of democratic procedures by appealing almost exclusively to the ignorance and irrationality of the electors. "Both parties," we were told in 1956 by the editor of a leading business journal, "will merchandize their candidates and issues by the same methods that business has developed to sell goods. These include scientific selection of appeals and planned repetition..Radio spot announcements and ads will repeat phrases with a planned intensity. Billboards will push slogans of proven power..Candidates need, in addition to rich voices and good diction, to be able to look 'sincerely' at the TV camera." From Brave New World Revisited by Aldous Huxley pages 65-66 ©1958 Aldous Huxley
quoted 5 lines I go back and forth on this, but yes...Huxley seems more the prophet than> >I go back and forth on this, but yes...Huxley seems more the prophet than > >Orwell - at least today. > >And that's very topical on IDM-l. > > > > jeff
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2003-01-10 20:18Z Moser><<it's definitely not worth it considering the most you might get out of it >is >$20.>> >
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quoted 6 lines <<it's definitely not worth it considering the most you might get out of it><<it's definitely not worth it considering the most you might get out of it >is >$20.>> > >Are you kidding? That's almost enough money to buy a new CD! >
Besides that I filled out 2 in about 10 minuets. One for me one for my mom. When multiplied out if we both get 20 dollars that is about 120$ and hour. If we both get 5$ that still equals out to 50$ an hour. The is a much more "worthy" use of my time than any job I have ever had. zach _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-01-11 00:21Z MoserI have to make a amendment to my original post. The 5$ example only equals out to 30$ and
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I have to make a amendment to my original post. The 5$ example only equals out to 30$ and hour. Sorry. The point still is still relevant though. To answer you other question, I would have to say I don't think 8.8 million people will sign up. That's allot of damn people. As of yet the numbers have only reached up into the 10's of thousands. Does anyone know how many people are currently living in america. This is not a rhetorical question. zach
quoted 24 lines <<it's definitely not worth it considering the most you might get out of> >>><<it's definitely not worth it considering the most you might get out of >>>it is >>>$20.>> >>> >>>Are you kidding? That's almost enough money to buy a new CD! >>> >> Besides that I filled out 2 in about 10 minuets. One for me one for my >>mom. When multiplied out if we both get 20 dollars that is about 120$ and >>hour. If we both get 5$ that still equals out to 50$ an hour. The is a >>much more "worthy" use of my time than any job I have ever had. >> > >Cool. If you thihnk of it that way, i get paid twice as much as you :D > >I wonder, though -- are there even 8.8 million people who use the internet >regularly? let alone those who, despite hearing that this is legit, won't >fill out the form? > >derek >-- >eggytoast.com >-------------- >commerce soon: eggtastic.com
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2003-01-11 00:31Marco Carbone> To answer you other question, I would have to say I don't think 8.8 million > people wil
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quoted 4 lines To answer you other question, I would have to say I don't think 8.8 million> To answer you other question, I would have to say I don't think 8.8 million > people will sign up. That's allot of damn people. As of yet the numbers have > only reached up into the 10's of thousands. >
That's as of late December, before I saw this thing mentioned in: memepool, slashdot, idm-list, fark, etc. So I bet it's quite a bit higher now. -marco --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-01-11 02:05Andrew Hime II - Andrew Hime's Revenge, Esquire> Does anyone know how many people are currently living in america. This is > not a rhetor
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quoted 2 lines Does anyone know how many people are currently living in america. This is> Does anyone know how many people are currently living in america. This is > not a rhetorical question.
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2003-01-11 02:45Andrew Hime II - Andrew Hime's Revenge, Esquire> ><<it's definitely not worth it considering the most you might get out of it > >is > >$2
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quoted 1 line <<it's definitely not worth it considering the most you might get out of> ><<it's definitely not worth it considering the most you might get out of
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quoted 1 line more "worthy" use of my time than any job I have ever had.> more "worthy" use of my time than any job I have ever had.
Have a Chevy Avalanche back into your parked car while you're in it... I made $750 in 4.5 hours that way not so long ago. Ugly fucking trucks. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2003-01-11 04:14The REAL Mxyzptlk> >Ugly f*cking trucks. I think we should devote a thread to SUVs and trucks. I hate them
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quoted 2 lines Ugly f*cking trucks.> >Ugly f*cking trucks.
I think we should devote a thread to SUVs and trucks. I hate them (mind you, I have a truck, but only because a friend of mine had a stroke, can't drive and needed the $). Not for any particular reason, but I just do. I can't see around them and most people in them don't seem to drive like they care or have time to put their cell phones down long enough to be conscious that they're driving a big vehicle. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org