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Re: [idm] Warp talk

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2002-07-30 20:54Jonathan Osborne [idm] Warp talk
2002-07-30 21:02Richard Re: [idm] Warp talk
2002-07-30 21:10cutups Re: [idm] Warp talk
2002-07-30 22:16Frederico Oliveira Re: [idm] Warp talk
└─ 2002-07-30 23:31Jonathan Osborne Re: [idm] Warp talk
2002-07-31 00:06Frederico Oliveira Re: [idm] Warp talk
└─ 2002-07-31 02:04Matthew E. Bochnewich [idm] WARP NESH NYC - who's goin?
2002-07-31 01:19donna summer Re: [idm] Warp talk
└─ 2002-07-31 02:53omz Re: [idm] Warp talk
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2002-07-30 20:54Jonathan Osborne> 5) Endless ramblings about non-Warp subjects (no matter how much I > like non-Warp subje
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Tue, 30 Jul 2002 13:54:44 -0700 (PDT)
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quoted 2 lines 5) Endless ramblings about non-Warp subjects (no matter how much I> 5) Endless ramblings about non-Warp subjects (no matter how much I > like non-Warp subjects)
You may get sick of discussing Warp-related stuff here, however... I listen to tons of music. A lot of that is no-name IDM that really sounds too much alike -- Autechre knock-offs, so to speak. It's all good stuff, certainly. But I won't remember any of it 15 minutes later. (For example, someone recommended E*Vax. I found it and listened. It was very cool. Can't recall a damn note.) Today I listened to Prefuse 73's "92 vs 02." I listened a bunch of times and actually found myself humming one of the tracks while working. I almost NEVER do this with no-name IDM because I don't remember any of it. Just when I think Warp is starting to lose their edge, they release stuff like this. Then I remember why it is I started devouring Warp music in the first place. So as tired as you may get of the same old discussions, I don't think they're unwarranted. forcasa __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-07-30 21:02Richard> I listen to tons of music. A lot of that is no-name IDM that really sounds too > much al
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Richard
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Jonathan Osborne , IDM
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Tue, 30 Jul 2002 22:02:39 +0100
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Re: [idm] Warp talk
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quoted 1 line I listen to tons of music. A lot of that is no-name IDM that really> I listen to tons of music. A lot of that is no-name IDM that really
sounds too
quoted 2 lines much alike -- Autechre knock-offs, so to speak. It's all good stuff,> much alike -- Autechre knock-offs, so to speak. It's all good stuff, > certainly. But I won't remember any of it 15 minutes later. (For
example,
quoted 1 line someone recommended E*Vax. I found it and listened. It was very cool.> someone recommended E*Vax. I found it and listened. It was very cool.
Can't
quoted 1 line recall a damn note.)> recall a damn note.)
I agree.. A lot of what I've heard in demo's and promo's from people - it all sounds like people are wannabes... 'I'm the next AE because I use similar processed noises.....' People should ignore what is current and create new sounds... we have the technology ($6m dollar bloke) so why not be inventive? In ambient music, the complexity of sounds is creating new sonic possibilities, so why not IDM? Rich --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-07-30 21:10cutupsI think alot of people sound like autechre because its just the kind of thing you can come
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Tue, 30 Jul 2002 17:10:03 -0400
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I think alot of people sound like autechre because its just the kind of thing you can come upon by noodling about with current software. I know a couple people who know nothing about autechre or the "IDM" scene who come up with stuff that you could call autechre clones (not developed, but similiar kinds of sounds/structures). I think the key is just support what you like. There's always going to be producers who are going to retread the same territory...its not like everything can break into new areas. - cutups ----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard" <arkive@btopenworld.com> To: "Jonathan Osborne" <forcasa@yahoo.com>; "IDM" <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, July 30, 2002 5:02 PM Subject: Re: [idm] Warp talk
quoted 11 lines I listen to tons of music. A lot of that is no-name IDM that really> > > I listen to tons of music. A lot of that is no-name IDM that really > sounds too > > much alike -- Autechre knock-offs, so to speak. It's all good stuff, > > certainly. But I won't remember any of it 15 minutes later. (For > example, > > someone recommended E*Vax. I found it and listened. It was very cool. > Can't > > recall a damn note.) > > I agree.. A lot of what I've heard in demo's and promo's from people -
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quoted 17 lines all sounds like people are wannabes... 'I'm the next AE because I use> all sounds like people are wannabes... 'I'm the next AE because I use > similar processed noises.....' > > People should ignore what is current and create new sounds... we have the > technology ($6m dollar bloke) so why not be inventive? In ambient music, > the complexity of sounds is creating new sonic possibilities, so why not > IDM? > > Rich > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2002-07-30 22:16Frederico Oliveira> > someone recommended E*Vax. I found it and listened. It was very cool. > > I agree.. A
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Frederico Oliveira
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Richard , Jonathan Osborne , IDM
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Tue, 30 Jul 2002 23:16:12 +0100
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quoted 3 lines someone recommended E*Vax. I found it and listened. It was very cool.> > someone recommended E*Vax. I found it and listened. It was very cool. > > I agree.. A lot of what I've heard in demo's and promo's from people -
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quoted 3 lines all sounds like people are wannabes... 'I'm the next AE because I use> all sounds like people are wannabes... 'I'm the next AE because I use > similar processed noises.....' >
Hell, the main reason why i did recommend E*Vax is because it slips from the regular trend you all seem to talk about. This "everyone is trying to mimic AE" thing. So, please, can't people just stop whining about others following a style? I mean if AE's style was the way i could express myself musically (fortunately, it aint), i WOULD do things the AE way. And i do advise everybody to do the same, when possible. Who cares if others did it already? As long as you can express yourself the way YOU want it, its all good. Am i that wrong? Calling people wannabes is basically telling them the way they choose to express what they feel, SUCKS. And whoever says that, never did music themselves. Remember boc's quote where they said something similar to: "we're glad people use us as inspiration. at least it means we did something that changed them inside". This is exactly how i feel. Lets cut the god damn AE-alike-number-XXXX crap, shall we? Frederico Oliveira Enough Records // enoughrecords.com_ Stylevictim // stylevictim.com_ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-07-30 23:31Jonathan Osborne--- Frederico Oliveira <idm@stylevictim.com> wrote: > Lets cut the god damn AE-alike-numbe
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Tue, 30 Jul 2002 16:31:59 -0700 (PDT)
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--- Frederico Oliveira <idm@stylevictim.com> wrote:
quoted 1 line Lets cut the god damn AE-alike-number-XXXX crap, shall we?> Lets cut the god damn AE-alike-number-XXXX crap, shall we?
I guess what pisses me off the most is when people tell other people what to talk about and what NOT to talk about. An angry army of 5,000 Autechre clones can't measure up to that shit. forcasa __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better http://health.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-07-31 00:06Frederico Oliveira> > Lets cut the god damn AE-alike-number-XXXX crap, shall we? > > I guess what pisses me
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quoted 3 lines Lets cut the god damn AE-alike-number-XXXX crap, shall we?> > Lets cut the god damn AE-alike-number-XXXX crap, shall we? > > I guess what pisses me off the most is when people tell other people what
to
quoted 1 line talk about and what NOT to talk about. An angry army of 5,000 Autechre> talk about and what NOT to talk about. An angry army of 5,000 Autechre
clones
quoted 1 line can't measure up to that shit.> can't measure up to that shit.
tell me something. did you read my post, or are you just trolling on one specific sentence because it makes you feel like god, for a couple of miliseconds? go back, read it, come back, and see how much of a fool you can be. did i tell you not to talk about anything? i said its stupid that people call just-about-anything an autechre clone. if you didn't get it, please, stay away, you... you... sarcastic bitter geek Frederico Oliveira Enough Records // enoughrecords.com_ Stylevictim // stylevictim.com_ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-07-31 02:04Matthew E. BochnewichI'd like to see who's heading to the show at Shelter tomorrow night. I can't wait to get m
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Tue, 30 Jul 2002 22:04:34 -0400
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[idm] WARP NESH NYC - who's goin?
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I'd like to see who's heading to the show at Shelter tomorrow night. I can't wait to get my brains stirred around by the warp squad and dntel! Take it easy, batch --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2002-07-31 01:19donna summerI would be most certainly guilty of pleading for non-warp talk, and the reasons why are tw
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I would be most certainly guilty of pleading for non-warp talk, and the reasons why are twofold: 1. most of the comments are about their older back cateloge, like artificial intelligence, or RDJ album. Sure it's relevant but it's not exactly exciting. Why not discuss Prefuse or Vincent Gallo, or even Anti-pop? At least they would all count as recient releases... 2. There are so many great people out there doing fantastic music- music you can hum, and sing, and dance, and think about, and destroy stuff to - that's it's simply just in bad taste. How many posts have we seen about Atomheart lately? He's only released an album everyother month for the last 2 years- about 80% of which is fucking awesome. But maybe that's too obscure, what about more sacntioned IDM like Bola, String Theory, Team Dyobi or Phonetia? They all rule. What about people that are well known but a little of the betten path like Lesser, Elect. Co, and Venetian Snares? So lets lay off teh AFX worship for a bit and let teh clones fall away for a little while and chat about what's making us excited right now... Donna S
quoted 40 lines 5) Endless ramblings about non-Warp subjects (no matter how much I> > > 5) Endless ramblings about non-Warp subjects (no matter how much I > > like non-Warp subjects) > >You may get sick of discussing Warp-related stuff here, however... > >I listen to tons of music. A lot of that is no-name IDM that really sounds >too >much alike -- Autechre knock-offs, so to speak. It's all good stuff, >certainly. But I won't remember any of it 15 minutes later. (For example, >someone recommended E*Vax. I found it and listened. It was very cool. >Can't >recall a damn note.) > >Today I listened to Prefuse 73's "92 vs 02." I listened a bunch of times >and >actually found myself humming one of the tracks while working. I almost >NEVER >do this with no-name IDM because I don't remember any of it. > >Just when I think Warp is starting to lose their edge, they release stuff >like >this. Then I remember why it is I started devouring Warp music in the >first >place. > >So as tired as you may get of the same old discussions, I don't think >they're >unwarranted. > >forcasa > >__________________________________________________ >Do You Yahoo!? >Yahoo! Health - Feel better, live better >http://health.yahoo.com > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2002-07-31 02:53omz> How many posts have we seen about Atomheart lately? He's only >released an album everyot
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quoted 3 lines How many posts have we seen about Atomheart lately? He's only> How many posts have we seen about Atomheart lately? He's only >released an album everyother month for the last 2 years- about 80% >of which is fucking awesome. But maybe that's too obscure,
A-fucking-Men. although i would say closer to 90% :) Wonder why nobody ever mentions Atom TM...the man puts 99% of IDM to shame... -- :::my spine is the bassline::: ^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^ omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org