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If anyone has taken IDM into the mainstream it's Bjork. Seeing her perform with Matmos on David Letterman was a real eye opener for me. Personally I love it. Mark Bell, Thomas Knak, Matmos, Plaid, and Herbert have all collaborated/produced with her over the span of her last two albums. That's quite a cast.

quoted 31 lines From: EggyToast <eggy@eggytoast.com>

>From: EggyToast <eggy@eggytoast.com> >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] the topic of discussion >Date: Thu, 25 Jul 2002 16:16:07 -0500 > >At 05:06 PM 7/25/2002 -0400, you wrote: >> >>Radiohead is taking idm into the mainstream. what are your thoughts list? > >I think it's not an accurate hypothesis. They may appeal to both people >into IDM and they may appeal to people into indie-type rock, but I don't >think they're providing any real cross-over. > >Perhaps if they hired matmos to do the backing for their next album, I'd >argue that they're trying, but simply mixing in modern electronic tricks >and techniques to their music style isn't going to clue people in to music >that's made entirely of electronic tricks and techniques. Unless they're >saying stuff like "if you like this, try this autechre cd!" > >derek > >------- >eggytoast.com >------- >with lather thingy > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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Tigerbeat 6, Kompakt, and just about any Japanese label make completely amazing music, and yet people seem to think that AE and Radiohead are still pushing the edge by doing the same thing they've been doing for the past four years. NIN used the most boring DX7 noises around and I hate his whiny vox, yet people still love him to death. The IDM list discusses hip hop and rock acts almost twice as much as it discusses actual electronic music, yet I still subscribe. Discuss. Tom P.S. Radiohead's music is prog rock all over again and you know it. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 1 line P.S. Radiohead's music is prog rock all over again and you know it.

>P.S. Radiohead's music is prog rock all over again and you know it.

You are going to dismiss the entire genre of progressive rock in one sentence??? Whatever. I feel sorry for you - you are missing out on tons of kickass music... -- ^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^-^- omz beautamous loaf recordings http://www.hotweird.com/loaf/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 7 lines From: "Sean Horton" <sean_horton@hotmail.com>

>From: "Sean Horton" <sean_horton@hotmail.com> > >If anyone has taken IDM into the mainstream it's Bjork. Seeing her perform >with Matmos on David Letterman was a real eye opener for me. Personally I >love it. Mark Bell, Thomas Knak, Matmos, Plaid, and Herbert have all >collaborated/produced with her over the span of her last two albums. That's >quite a cast.

wtf? matmos was on david letterman? how long ago? anyone tape this? ******************************************* http://www.humboldt.edu/~mds40 ******************************************* _________________________________________________________________ Join the world?s largest e-mail service with MSN Hotmail. http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

bjork is electronic music's paul simon, and i'm not just talking about the similarities between their compact frames. she's been gracelanding our asses for years. inertia+hysteria, brandon pr. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

brandon pr. said:

quoted 3 lines bjork is electronic music's paul simon, and i'm not just talking about

> bjork is electronic music's paul simon, and i'm not just talking about > the similarities between their compact frames. she's been gracelanding > our asses for years.

thank god for that. also, i'm waiting for someone to explain to us all who exactly the "true innovators" are. i wasn't aware there was a consensus... -nub --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

At 09:34 AM 7/26/2002 -0600, you wrote:

quoted 10 lines brandon pr. said:

>brandon pr. said: > > > bjork is electronic music's paul simon, and i'm not just talking about > > the similarities between their compact frames. she's been gracelanding > > our asses for years. > >thank god for that. > >also, i'm waiting for someone to explain to us all who exactly the "true >innovators" are. i wasn't aware there was a consensus...

More than likely, the true innovators are the same artists people believe are "not making good music anymore" :D derek ------- eggytoast.com ------- with lather thingy --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

on 7/26/02 8:44 AM, EggyToast at eggy@eggytoast.com scrawled:

quoted 15 lines At 09:34 AM 7/26/2002 -0600, you wrote:

> At 09:34 AM 7/26/2002 -0600, you wrote: >> brandon pr. said: >> >>> bjork is electronic music's paul simon, and i'm not just talking about >>> the similarities between their compact frames. she's been gracelanding >>> our asses for years. >> >> thank god for that. >> >> also, i'm waiting for someone to explain to us all who exactly the "true >> innovators" are. i wasn't aware there was a consensus... > > More than likely, the true innovators are the same artists people believe > are "not making good music anymore" :D >

Hey.. it's a well known fact that music can only be innovative if you like it. Imagine how confusing things could get if it were possible to respect the work or methods of an artist, even though you weren't into the end results. ~g np.. kronos does bill evans -- Greg Smith http://www.laiad.com "I don't trust anybody¹s nostalgia but my own. Nostalgia is a product of dissatisfaction and rage. It's a settling of grievances between the present and the past. The more powerful the nostalgia, the closer you come to violence. War is the form nostalgia takes when men are hard pressed to say something good about their country" - Don Delillo/White Noise --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

-Hey.. it's a well known fact that music can only be innovative if you like -it. Imagine how confusing things could get if it were possible to respect -the work or methods of an artist, even though you weren't into the end -results. This is actually very possible. I spent a good hour arguing with reimer eising (kettel) about this about a week ago. For example, I respect Richard Devine and his work. I think it's very interesting and decent to listen to base purely on process... but then end result isn't really anything I'm into. The music that I actually like or make, isn't at all based on process (for the most part), but a good portion of my CD collection isn't music I like, but rather appreciate. This would be how I feel about Radiohead actually... I really do appreciate what they do, and I respect them a great deal, but I don't like their music much at all. It's really interesting and I think they have some great ideas, but it's just not my thing. I own Autechre's Confield, but I only like the process, not the result. You're right, this is confusing, but this is how I listen to music. jon tenandtracer p.s. new CD+7"+possible bonus CDR ep coming up on tundra/civik... dark before dawn 3"CDEP sold out in a day, and my full length is nearly done at the presses. http://www.tenandtracer.com ----- Original Message ----- From: "Greg Smith" <purgasmith@earthlink.net> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Friday, July 26, 2002 9:57 AM Subject: Re: [idm] the topic of discussion (Bjork?) on 7/26/02 8:44 AM, EggyToast at eggy@eggytoast.com scrawled:

quoted 15 lines At 09:34 AM 7/26/2002 -0600, you wrote:

> At 09:34 AM 7/26/2002 -0600, you wrote: >> brandon pr. said: >> >>> bjork is electronic music's paul simon, and i'm not just talking about >>> the similarities between their compact frames. she's been gracelanding >>> our asses for years. >> >> thank god for that. >> >> also, i'm waiting for someone to explain to us all who exactly the "true >> innovators" are. i wasn't aware there was a consensus... > > More than likely, the true innovators are the same artists people believe > are "not making good music anymore" :D >

Hey.. it's a well known fact that music can only be innovative if you like it. Imagine how confusing things could get if it were possible to respect the work or methods of an artist, even though you weren't into the end results. ~g np.. kronos does bill evans -- Greg Smith http://www.laiad.com "I don't trust anybody¹s nostalgia but my own. Nostalgia is a product of dissatisfaction and rage. It's a settling of grievances between the present and the past. The more powerful the nostalgia, the closer you come to violence. War is the form nostalgia takes when men are hard pressed to say something good about their country" - Don Delillo/White Noise --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org