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Please, I dont wanna fight.......:) Ahem, here I am though...... (read that header).... Now, 1. kids dont have what I have....2.so, that could make me a martian...3. thus giving a good reason why an American suburban kid would wanna band me from the earth(being different than him of course)............. Ohhhh banned from a list, darn, I've lost loads of sleep about too. Yep, just discovered Kraftwerk and everything.....sounds like someone is suffering from an acute case of loooooooooo-self-esteem.... (perhaps your anger lies in the dubious fact that although few of you have given comments to my cryptic remarks, I am still here, which negates your imbecilic notion of "ignore and he'll just go away"....no wait, that's right you guys are never wrong......well, U'll come up with a cheesy rationale......).......tood-a-looo.........:) Bounce down to Indy, as Tupac told ja-----I aint hard to fine....... Yep, Hk!-Thyme

Wait... back up Omar... are you sure you don't want to turn this into a racial issue? You forgot to talk about how every white american on the idm list is oppressing you! So yea... Omar is really fucking annoying and talks about a bunch of music I couldn't give two shits about... but if I whined about it, that would mean I couldn't occasionally make posts about music a lot of other people don't care about either. Let him be a superstar DJ... its just another step in the saga... no... legacy of Omar "Kelly" Hackett! -Aaron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Omar Hackett" <Oways@msn.com> Date: Friday, June 7, 2002 6:37 am Subject: Re: [idm] Tis Omar, but 1 outta 2 aint bad.....(HACK)

quoted 11 lines Please, I dont wanna fight.......:)

> Please, I dont wanna fight.......:) > > Ahem, here I am though...... > (read that header).... > > Now, 1. kids dont have what I have....2.so, that could > make me a martian...3. thus giving a good reason > why an American suburban kid would wanna band me from the > earth(being different than him of course)............. > > Ohhhh banned from a list, darn, I've lost loads of sleep about

too.

quoted 2 lines Yep, just discovered Kraftwerk and everything.....sounds like

> > Yep, just discovered Kraftwerk and everything.....sounds like

someone

quoted 3 lines is suffering from an acute case of loooooooooo-self-esteem....

> is suffering from an acute case of loooooooooo-self-esteem.... > (perhaps your anger lies in the dubious fact that although few > of you have given comments to my cryptic remarks, I am still

here,

quoted 12 lines whichnegates your imbecilic notion of "ignore and he'll just go

> whichnegates your imbecilic notion of "ignore and he'll just go > away"....no wait, > that's right you guys are never wrong......well, U'll come up with > a > cheesy rationale......).......tood-a-looo.........:) > > Bounce down to Indy, as Tupac told ja-----I aint hard to fine....... > > Yep, > > Hk!-Thyme >

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HEY OMAR I HEARD YOU HAD A SMALL PENIS ----- Original Message ----- From: "Omar Hackett" <Oways@msn.com> Date: Friday, June 7, 2002 6:37 am Subject: Re: [idm] Tis Omar, but 1 outta 2 aint bad.....(HACK)

quoted 9 lines Please, I dont wanna fight.......:)

> Please, I dont wanna fight.......:) > > Ahem, here I am though...... > (read that header).... > > Now, 1. kids dont have what I have....2.so, that could > make me a martian...3. thus giving a good reason > why an American suburban kid would wanna band me from the > earth(bei

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quoted 1 line HEY OMAR I HEARD YOU HAD A SMALL PENIS

>HEY OMAR I HEARD YOU HAD A SMALL PENIS

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quoted 32 lines From: "wells@submute.net" <wells@submute.net>

>From: "wells@submute.net" <wells@submute.net> >Reply-To: wells@submute.net >To: "oways@msn.com" <oways@msn.com>, "idm@hyperreal.org" ><idm@hyperreal.org> >Subject: Re: [idm] Tis Omar, but 1 outta 2 aint bad.....(HACK) >Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 12:09:54 -0400 > >HEY OMAR I HEARD YOU HAD A SMALL PENIS > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Omar Hackett" <Oways@msn.com> >Date: Friday, June 7, 2002 6:37 am >Subject: Re: [idm] Tis Omar, but 1 outta 2 aint bad.....(HACK) > > > Please, I dont wanna fight.......:) > > > > Ahem, here I am though...... > > (read that header).... > > > > Now, 1. kids dont have what I have....2.so, that could > > make me a martian...3. thus giving a good reason > > why an American suburban kid would wanna band me from the > > earth(bei > >-------------------------------------------------------------------- >mail2web - Check your email from the web at >http://mail2web.com/ . > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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quoted 2 lines Yep, just discovered Kraftwerk and everything.....sounds like someone

> Yep, just discovered Kraftwerk and everything.....sounds like someone > is suffering from an acute case of loooooooooo-self-esteem....

Damn right, that is sooo shallow. I'll expand upon that, I'd say anyone who has to hide behind a particular style of music (made by _other people_ for fucks sake) or a particular style of clothes, or come to think of it any set of consumables just to prove how cool they are really has to take a long hard look at themselves. Music's a noise - a pleasant noise, but a noise nonetheless. It _won't_ provide you with an identity. What are we supposed to say "oh no, Omar only just found out about Kraftwerk, better not talk to hima again!". Yeh riiight. Come to think of it, how does anyone know when Omar got into Kraftwerk anyway? He wasn't afraid to post it to the list. One thing I'll say for Omar, I know he's not that shallow. Ross. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

damn... y'all just got called a bitch! omar is okay in my book. matt ------------------------ http://www.humboldt.edu/~mds40 ------------------------

quoted 30 lines From: "Ross Balmer" <ross@i2dm.co.uk>

>From: "Ross Balmer" <ross@i2dm.co.uk> >To: <idm@hyperreal.org> >Subject: Re: [idm] Tis Omar, but 1 outta 2 aint bad.....(HACK) >Date: Fri, 7 Jun 2002 23:00:22 +0100 > > > Yep, just discovered Kraftwerk and everything.....sounds like someone > > is suffering from an acute case of loooooooooo-self-esteem.... > >Damn right, that is sooo shallow. I'll expand upon that, I'd say anyone who >has to hide behind a particular style of music (made by _other people_ for >fucks sake) or a particular style of clothes, or come to think of it any >set of consumables just to prove how cool they are really has to take a >long >hard look at themselves. Music's a noise - a pleasant noise, but a noise >nonetheless. It _won't_ provide you with an identity. What are we supposed >to say "oh no, Omar only just found out about Kraftwerk, better not talk to >hima again!". Yeh riiight. > >Come to think of it, how does anyone know when Omar got into Kraftwerk >anyway? He wasn't afraid to post it to the list. One thing I'll say for >Omar, I know he's not that shallow. > >Ross. > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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I'll have to check ole Dip out......:).......... and this is for all the other comments......:).... ----- Original Message ----- From: Record Camp Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 10:46 AM To: Aaron D Meyers; Omar Hackett; idm@hyperreal.org Subject: RE: [idm] Tis Omar, but 1 outta 2 aint bad.....(HACK) All I have to say is... Dipthong, thay guy ruled!! http://www.recordcamp.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Just to throw my $0.02 in, Omar and I have butted heads off-list a few times, but I have to say the he genuinely loves music. He's never afraid to try something new, or something old for that matter. He doesn't play like he's an original IDM-head, but rather takes in all the sounds he can and gives an honest opinion about what he experiences. More than I can say for most. Chris On Friday, June 7, 2002, at 06:35 PM, Omar Hackett wrote:

quoted 18 lines I'll have to check ole Dip out......:)..........

> I'll have to check ole Dip out......:).......... > > and this is for all the other comments......:).... > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Record Camp > Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 10:46 AM > To: Aaron D Meyers; Omar Hackett; idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: RE: [idm] Tis Omar, but 1 outta 2 aint bad.....(HACK) > > All I have to say is... Dipthong, thay guy ruled!! > > > http://www.recordcamp.com > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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quoted 10 lines Just to throw my $0.02 in, Omar and I have butted heads off-list a few

>Just to throw my $0.02 in, Omar and I have butted heads off-list a few >times, but I have to say the he genuinely loves music. He's never afraid >to try something new, or something old for that matter. He doesn't play >like he's an original IDM-head, but rather takes in all the sounds he can >and gives an honest opinion about what he experiences. More than I can say >for most. > >Chris > >On Friday, June 7, 2002, at 06:35 PM, Omar Hackett wrote:

My first "meeting" with Omar was an offlist, heated argument which went on for a good week - maybe two. That was several years back. Since then we have met face to face when I was in Chicago a few years ago. I have to say that sometimes he starts his own fires (he knows it and isn't always happy about it), but he says what he thinks and feels - point blank. He also knows what he likes but tries to go beyond and see what else is out there. He's genuine, whether you like you what see or not. That's more than I can say for everyone who drops a post on IDM-l. Additionally (having spent some time with him), he's a nice guy - respectful and decent. Being a smartass myself, I understand that he can be an easy target in this forum. I guess I would say that just because a target presents itself doesn't mean you should take aim. If you have an issue with him, there are ways to challenge which don't involve "the posture" and from my initial experiences in doing this with him, he'll treat you with the integrity you show him - even if you call him on the carpet (offlist). Another thing I might add is that in these internet "communities", the little most of know about each other subsists (for the most part) in text on a screen and some don't translate as well as others in this hermeneutically challenged format. There is more to any person than the decontextualized banter accessed via the inbox. It gets all-too-easy to dismiss people based on something they've written in haste, something they've possibly said in a way which wasn't the best way to say it, something they might wish they wouldn't have said. Elephants have nothing on email lists. This particular list has had a history of cynicism and posturing inculcated with it. I'm not trying to soapbox - I'm as jaded as the next person here and I take my humor where I find it as well. Sometimes it's important to get beyond the zeitgeist, draw back and see the part one plays in the trends which permeate these lists - especially keeping in mind that there are people behind the textual fronts that we all have and use. It seems like we should be able to deal with our differences with a bit more integrity without walking on eggshells and losing the edginess. Maybe not. Personally I'm more prone to lend my ear to someone who manages to post using an email address which they did not create as an alias for the purpose of engaging in flame wars. If you're going to post, at least have the balls to "show yourself". I always find it fascinating that people will take so much time and trouble to deal with an opinion or a person whom they ostensibly find less than worthwhile. Just my .02 . jeff --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Thanks Ross......I am sure they're never going to believe other wise.... BUT..... Considering that I am older than many of em.....it doesnt matter what they type.... Hey you guys better stop showing me "attention"......ohhh brother.... Let's just discuss the music...and for the record, 1. I am after, typically, the older music that I missed out on, 2. I dont go for the spin-thrift IDM bandwagon...U know, that rush to get the NEWEST release... 3. Dont hate me cuz I blow this message board up with weird messages, I really love the music....4. Dont worry, soon I'll go again....now hush up..... Regular programming now sequencing on my mark, 5-4-3-2........... ----- Original Message ----- From: Ross Balmer Sent: Friday, June 07, 2002 5:03 PM To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [idm] Tis Omar, but 1 outta 2 aint bad.....(HACK)

quoted 2 lines Yep, just discovered Kraftwerk and everything.....sounds like someone

> Yep, just discovered Kraftwerk and everything.....sounds like someone > is suffering from an acute case of loooooooooo-self-esteem....

Damn right, that is sooo shallow. I'll expand upon that, I'd say anyone who has to hide behind a particular style of music (made by _other people_ for fucks sake) or a particular style of clothes, or come to think of it any set of consumables just to prove how cool they are really has to take a long hard look at themselves. Music's a noise - a pleasant noise, but a noise nonetheless. It _won't_ provide you with an identity. What are we supposed to say "oh no, Omar only just found out about Kraftwerk, better not talk to hima again!". Yeh riiight. Come to think of it, how does anyone know when Omar got into Kraftwerk anyway? He wasn't afraid to post it to the list. One thing I'll say for Omar, I know he's not that shallow. Ross. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 8 lines Just to throw my $0.02 in, Omar and I have butted heads off-list a few

> Just to throw my $0.02 in, Omar and I have butted heads off-list a few > times, but I have to say the he genuinely loves music. He's never afraid > to try something new, or something old for that matter. He doesn't play > like he's an original IDM-head, but rather takes in all the sounds he > can and gives an honest opinion about what he experiences. More than I > can say for most. > > Chris

indeed!! and who are we to question his opinion. un-educated and/or inexperienced opinions are opinions nonetheless. interesting how there was recently the debate over whether IDM is dead (or something to that end), when surely the only way forward is through fresh, open minds ;) but it *is* sad that everyone is a dj these days..but I digress.. borinscary luckyluke102@hotmail.com ICQ # 15448652 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 1 line If you're going to post, at least have

>>If you're going to post, at least have

the balls to "show yourself". As the person who started all this stuff, JUNO123 so cleverly continues..... Good points Jeff and I wont belabor the issue after this.... I give two types of comments, emotionally charged rants about the music....and analysis of trends that I see taking place or that have taken place that impede the progress of the music....... OMZ, WELLS, LANDER, Juno-boy.........man I could care less about you cats as well as you could me, neither of us loose sleep(I sure hope you dont)....and we may well never meet up......and if we do, Jeff can tell ya, I am much too serious about loads of other things than to let one or two puny mortals get in my way.... I'd treat U like I forgot the whole deal, cuz I dont typically take anything that you say personally.........:D.....and I wont even entertain any other notions..... NP, Little Big Bee(AT Jazz remix).......... Thanks for the comments Jk!......U know me from experience..... Omar Hackett IUPUI University Library 755 W. Michigan Street, Rm: 1112 Indianapolis, IN 46202 317-278-2278 317-278-2300 (Fax) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Much appreciated, and I actually, if this is the same Paul Webb....spoke with this chap in a phone booth on the corner while in Manchester..... Good chap! Thanks Mr. Web....... ....and here's a plug...... I just gotta a hold of this recording from a cat DFA, outta the heart of Detroit......and get this....its right up there with the quality stuff Nuron used to do......its Detroit House, but superb in structure, quality more soul than the universe and hotter than a white dwarf............ a three tracker, but all the tunes are good with 3/5 Human standing out the most to my ears, a 12 min beaut, thats gonna get dropped ALL THE TIME..... Hk! ----- Original Message ----- From: Paul Webb Sent: Tuesday, June 11, 2002 5:00 AM Cc: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [idm] Tis Omar, but 1 outta 2 aint bad.....(HACK) Here's some music for you Omar to drown out the abuse: http://www.digital-soul.co.uk/ It's a british label but has a detroit deep techno style. Right up your street. Anyone else into underground resistance etc should check this too. Paul. Hackett, Kelley M. wrote:

quoted 43 lines If you're going to post, at least have

>>>If you're going to post, at least have >>> >the balls to "show yourself". > >As the person who started all this stuff, JUNO123 so cleverly continues..... > >Good points Jeff and I wont belabor the issue after this.... >I give two types of comments, emotionally charged rants about the >music....and >analysis of trends that I see taking place or that have taken place that >impede >the progress of the music....... > >OMZ, WELLS, LANDER, Juno-boy.........man I could care less about you cats as >well >as you could me, neither of us loose sleep(I sure hope you dont)....and we >may well never meet up......and if we do, Jeff can tell ya, I am much too >serious >about loads of other things than to let one or two puny mortals get in my >way.... >I'd treat U like I forgot the whole deal, cuz I dont typically take anything >that you >say personally.........:D.....and I wont even entertain any other >notions..... > >NP, Little Big Bee(AT Jazz remix).......... > >Thanks for the comments Jk!......U know me from experience..... > > >Omar Hackett >IUPUI University Library >755 W. Michigan Street, Rm: 1112 >Indianapolis, IN 46202 >317-278-2278 >317-278-2300 (Fax) > > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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