Why is this bollocks topic still going on??? Perhaps the list moderator has
resorted to watching paint dry and found it so much more interesting he /
she aint coming back!
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From: "EggyToast" <eggy@eggytoast.com>
To: "Matt Jarsky" <studio@cheapo.cc>
Cc: "IDM" <idm@hyperreal.org>
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 12:21 AM
Subject: RE: [idm] "gay idm"
quoted 5 lines At 04:56 PM 2/27/2002 -0400, Matt Jarsky wrote:
> At 04:56 PM 2/27/2002 -0400, Matt Jarsky wrote:
> >Satire or not, you hold the list hostage with your flame-bait.
> >
> >One of the qualities of satire is that it is extreme. Credible on some
> >level, yes, but extreme and perhaps incredible on others. Swift's "Aquoted 1 line Proposal" proposed a reasonable argument for eating the poor. His tone
> >Proposal" proposed a reasonable argument for eating the poor. His tonequoted 2 lines matter of fact and many people were outraged. However the fact that his
> >matter of fact and many people were outraged. However the fact that his
> >solution to the problem of the poor should offend any human is the cluequoted 1 line the whole thing is a sham, a satire. Your views, unfortunately, are not
> >the whole thing is a sham, a satire. Your views, unfortunately, are notquoted 3 lines extreme. The view you expressed is probably in line with the beliefs of a
> >extreme. The view you expressed is probably in line with the beliefs of a
> >good number of folks. How are we to know what your angle is? Of course
> >people who know you will get the joke, but most of don't know you. Soquoted 10 lines must be forgiven for thinking your lame ass joke is the real deal.
> >must be forgiven for thinking your lame ass joke is the real deal.
>
> True; the problem with most satire is that there are nearly always people
> who believe it to be fact. Even in your example of poor people, although
> the majority would immediately become outraged, there are numerous "upper
> class" who believe all poor people should either be killed off, or do
> housework for them.
>
> One of the alternative purposes of satire, besides humor, is to motivate
> action, or at least persuade people to consider the situation. It's beenquoted 2 lines long-standing "joke" on the IDM list where the only reason females become
> long-standing "joke" on the IDM list where the only reason females become
> interested in IDM is because a more music-savvy boyfriend turned them onquoted 3 lines it. It's also a common misconception among male chauvinists and other
> it. It's also a common misconception among male chauvinists and other
> breeds of sexist "pigdogs" that women only serve one purpose -- to make
> babies and look good. Hopefully this is not popular opinion on this listquoted 2 lines Rather, if anything, a post such as mine should encourage people to
>
> Rather, if anything, a post such as mine should encourage people toquoted 6 lines "hey, women can do anything they wish; they aren't limited by gender or
> "hey, women can do anything they wish; they aren't limited by gender or
> mental prowess or anything." I'm sure any "flames" I would receive would
> recant something to that effect, putting more people in agreement over the
> situation. Which was my purpose all along (and, to people such as myself,
> it is the utmost in extreme social commentary. If you don't think it's
> extreme, perhaps you yourself should reconsider your stance on genderquoted 14 lines in society).
> in society).
>
> derek
>
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