#1: Joke's on you
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--- gw12b <gw12b@breathemail.net> wrote:
quoted 100 lines Why is this bollocks topic still going on??? Perhaps the list moderator
> Why is this bollocks topic still going on??? Perhaps the list moderator
> has
> resorted to watching paint dry and found it so much more interesting he
> /
> she aint coming back!
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "EggyToast" <eggy@eggytoast.com>
> To: "Matt Jarsky" <studio@cheapo.cc>
> Cc: "IDM" <idm@hyperreal.org>
> Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 12:21 AM
> Subject: RE: [idm] "gay idm"
>
>
> > At 04:56 PM 2/27/2002 -0400, Matt Jarsky wrote:
> > >Satire or not, you hold the list hostage with your flame-bait.
> > >
> > >One of the qualities of satire is that it is extreme. Credible on
> some
> > >level, yes, but extreme and perhaps incredible on others. Swift's "A
> Modest
> > >Proposal" proposed a reasonable argument for eating the poor. His
> tone
> was
> > >matter of fact and many people were outraged. However the fact that
> his
> > >solution to the problem of the poor should offend any human is the
> clue
> that
> > >the whole thing is a sham, a satire. Your views, unfortunately, are
> not
> that
> > >extreme. The view you expressed is probably in line with the beliefs
> of a
> > >good number of folks. How are we to know what your angle is? Of
> course
> > >people who know you will get the joke, but most of don't know you. So
> people
> > >must be forgiven for thinking your lame ass joke is the real deal.
> >
> > True; the problem with most satire is that there are nearly always
> people
> > who believe it to be fact. Even in your example of poor people,
> although
> > the majority would immediately become outraged, there are numerous
> "upper
> > class" who believe all poor people should either be killed off, or do
> > housework for them.
> >
> > One of the alternative purposes of satire, besides humor, is to
> motivate
> > action, or at least persuade people to consider the situation. It's
> been
> a
> > long-standing "joke" on the IDM list where the only reason females
> become
> > interested in IDM is because a more music-savvy boyfriend turned them
> on
> to
> > it. It's also a common misconception among male chauvinists and other
> > breeds of sexist "pigdogs" that women only serve one purpose -- to
> make
> > babies and look good. Hopefully this is not popular opinion on this
> list
> :D
> >
> > Rather, if anything, a post such as mine should encourage people to
> believe
> > "hey, women can do anything they wish; they aren't limited by gender
> or
> > mental prowess or anything." I'm sure any "flames" I would receive
> would
> > recant something to that effect, putting more people in agreement over
> the
> > situation. Which was my purpose all along (and, to people such as
> myself,
> > it is the utmost in extreme social commentary. If you don't think
> it's
> > extreme, perhaps you yourself should reconsider your stance on gender
> roles
> > in society).
> >
> > derek
> >
> > -------
> > eggytoast.com
> > -------
> > with lather thingy
> >
> >
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