At 04:08 PM 1/13/2002 -0500, Netlon[3] wrote:
quoted 4 lines Ive been workn on tunes for quite sometime now, but still am having
>Ive been workn on tunes for quite sometime now, but still am having
>trouble finding the best method for powerful real time effects and
>editing
I was just wondering if of you guys have any idea what the pros
>are don or tight ways to fuck up some beats?
For these and further questions, I'd strongly recommend the IDM-Making list
located at
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/IDM-Making/ There's over 600
members, and questions like these, and more, are asked and answered quite
often. I'll attempt to answer your questions here, too, so you don't just
reach a dead-end :D
quoted 7 lines I saw Plaid when they came around, and was tryn to get an idea of what
>I saw Plaid when they came around, and was tryn to get an idea of what
>they were don live. It seemed that pretty much the whole time they were
>tweaking what looked like a large mixing board. They didnt do 2 much on
>their laptops another than queue up new tunes. What I dont get about
>that setup is that it would seem that they would need each sound to have
>its own channel gon to the mixn board but as I could recall there was
>only 1 output comen out of their laptops.
Without asking them, or seeing it for myself, they most likely had the "one
output" be something USB-like, going to a larger breakout box to separate
the outputs. Either way, the larger box that looked like a mixing board
was almost certainly some flavor of filterbox, which is how most real-time
filtered effects are generated using music hardware. It's easy with
hardware -- sound goes in, you fiddle with knobs or setup some automation,
and filtered and "effected" sound comes out.
quoted 3 lines I dont know, maybe im just dumb and havent researched and played
>I dont know, maybe im just dumb and havent researched and played
>enough, but I just havent found any smooth way of doing it yet. Let me
>know what you guys think
You're not dumb, but you're probably just not using much hardware in your
music setup. Using software for realtime effects is really sticky --
besides timing issues, there just aren't a lot of programs that do
it. High-end software applications like Cubase, Logic, and I believe
Pro-tools (although I haven't used it) allow you to send sound into the
program and run realtime effects, or at least use realtime effects on the
sounds coming out of the program. Many people use Reaktor as a souped-up
filterbox, since it's modular.
Anyways, that's just sort of the basics. To affect things in realtime, you
need to have some way to control the effect in realtime. Tautological,
perhaps, but it's basically all that there is to it. If you're looking to
do more, a change of programs or a change of hardware may be in order. And
a subscription to that IDM-Making list, too :D
derek
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