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2001-09-14 15:09duncan van halluciphile [idm] FWD:[Mike's Message] Across America Tonight
└─ 2001-09-15 14:21Irene McC [idm] who is Michael Moore ?
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2001-09-15 20:58Julia Matusov Re: [idm] who is Michael Moore ?
2001-09-15 21:05brian albers Re: [idm] who is Michael Moore ?
2001-09-15 22:05Aaron D Meyers Re: [idm] who is Michael Moore ?
└─ 2001-09-16 01:53Kent williams Re: [idm] who is Michael Moore ?
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2001-09-14 15:09duncan van halluciphilelast time I decided to share mikes message I was belittled by someone who doesn't bother t
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last time I decided to share mikes message I was belittled by someone who doesn't bother to even skim most of the "hundreds of eMails" that are posted on this list withing 23 hours. For this reason, I did not change the subject line. But since several individuals thanked the post of the previous, I will post this but no more. If you are interested in recieveing future letters, you can go to the URL on the bottom. Other wise, sorry for wasting your datatransmission and hared drive space. stop the bad karma dVh --------------------------------------------------------------------- 9/13/01 Across America Tonight ... Dear Friends, I am on the road tonight, the only way to get out of L.A. and back home to our daughter and our friends in New York City. Oddly enough, I have never driven across this vast country. My wife and I have now stopped in Flagstaff for a few hours sleep before moving on. The sorrow and anger builds across America. Talk radio tonight was filled with calls for carpet-bombing every Arab country. Many want revenge, blood. But a surprising number of people have called for us to not add to the killing of more innocent humans. The rest stops and the convenience stores along the way were filled with quiet, solemn people, many of whom, like us, can get home no other way than by this four-day trip. Our daughter is fine, mostly frightened by my desire to fly home to her rather than drive. Once again, I was outvoted 2 to 1. This is nothing new. We have learned of more people we know who have lost their lives. Bill Weems, who worked as a line producer for us this year, was on the flight from Boston that crashed into the World Trade Center. He was such a sweet and decent soul. Such senseless madness. The children of New York who are orphaned tonight ... what do we say or do? I will do my part -- anything, something -- as soon as I get to New York. But it will never be enough. The firefighters of New York: they are on every other block, every day, and they are your best neighbors. Sitting out on the sidewalks in front of the fire stations, a good word and a kind smile to all who pass ... now, 350+ of them gone, having risked their lives to save the victims of a carnage they soon became part of. A good friend from Flint is a clerical worker at the Pentagon. I have heard no word about her condition. I have tried contacting her family to no avail. Her son, Malcolm, worked on our show. I cannot find him. I keep getting tears in my eyes. Once she gave me a tour of the Pentagon, took me everywhere, and got such a kick out of taking me around this building I used to march on. Will our mutual friends who know Barbara, and know how she is, please write me? Please. The man who occupies the White House cried today. Good. Keep crying, Mr. Bush. The more you cry, the less you will go to that dark side in all humans where anger rages to a point where we want to blindly kill. Your dad's and Reagan's old cronies -- Eagleberger, Baker, Schultz -- are all calling for you to bomb first and ask questions later. You must NOT do this. If only because you do not want to stoop to these mass murderers' level. Yes, find out who did it. Yes, see that they NEVER do it again. But GET A GRIP, man. "Declare war?" War against whom? One guy in the desert whom we can never seem to find? Are our leaders telling us that the most powerful country on earth cannot dispose of one sick evil f---wad of a guy? Because if that is what you are telling us, then we are truly screwed. If you are unable to take out this lone ZZ Top wannabe, what on earth would you do for us if we were attacked by a nation of millions? For chrissakes, call the Israelis and have them do that thing they do when they want to get their man! We pay them enough billions each year, I am SURE they would be happy to accommodate your request. But I beg you, Mr. Bush, stay with the tears. Go today to comfort the wounded of New York. Tell the mayor, a guy most of us have not liked, that he is doing an incredible job, keeping the spirits of everyone up as high as they can be at this moment. Being there for a city I believe he loves, his own cancer still with him, he goes beyond the call of duty. But do not declare war and massacre more innocents. After bin Laden's previous act of terror, our last elected president went and bombed what he said was "bin Laden's camp" in Afghanistan -- but instead just killed civilians. Then he bombed a factory in the Sudan, saying it was "making chemical weapons." It turned out to be making aspirin. Innocent people murdered by our Air Force. Back in May, you gave the Taliban in Afghanistan $48 million dollars of our tax money. No free nation on earth would give them a cent, but you gave them a gift of $48 million because they said they had "banned all drugs." Because your drug war was more important than the actual war the Taliban had inflicted on its own people, you helped to fund the regime who had given refuge to the very man you now say is responsible for killing my friend on that plane and for killing the friends of families of thousands and thousands of people. How dare you talk about more killing now! Shame! shame! Shame! Explain your actions in support of the Taliban! Tell us why your father and his partner Mr. Reagan trained Mr. bin Laden in how to be a terrorist! Am I angry? You bet I am. I am an American citizen, and my leaders have taken my money to fund mass murder. And now my friends have paid the price with their lives. Keep crying, Mr. Bush. Keep running to Omaha or wherever it is you go while others die, just as you ran during Vietnam while claiming to be "on duty" in the Air National Guard. Nine boys from my high school died in that miserable war. And now you are asking for "unity" so you can start another one? Do not insult me or my country like this! Yes, I, too, will be in church at noon today, on this national day of mourning. I will pray for you, and us, and the children of New York, and the children of this sad and ugly world ... Yours, Michael Moore mmlfint@aol.com www.michaelmoore.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-09-15 14:21Irene McCThis is a genuine question - I live many thousands of miles away; and have never heard the
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2001-09-15 18:07wellsAt 04:21 PM 9/15/2001 +0200, Irene McC wrote: >This is a genuine question - I live many th
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At 04:21 PM 9/15/2001 +0200, Irene McC wrote:
quoted 3 lines This is a genuine question - I live many thousands of miles away;>This is a genuine question - I live many thousands of miles away; >and have never heard the name Michael Moore before - is he a >journalist?
Yes, a bit. He's made a few films, most notably the amazing, excellent, funny, depressing Roger & Me (go rent it now!) about the exodus of GM from Flint, Michigan and its disaterous effects on the town. He's also done a follow-up to it called Pets or Meat. He's also responsible for the TV show (don't know if you get it in South Africa, but it was awesome) called TV Nation, which was along the lines of exposing corporate wrongdoings. He also, unfortunately, did Canadian Bacon, which should have been good, but wasn't. http://us.imdb.com/Name?Moore,+Michael+(II) He also tried to run a bonzai tree for political office in DC, which was very funny. The guy all around rules. - wells oliver [wells@submute.net] --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-09-15 20:58Julia MatusovHi Irene, someone else would probably be able to answer that better but here is what I kno
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Hi Irene, someone else would probably be able to answer that better but here is what I know... Michael Moore is sort of an icon of American progressive politics. His medium is film. Roger and Me is his probably most famous movie and it exposes the effect of the closing of a GM factory in Flynt, Michigan. The movie demonstrates the devastating effects of mass unemployment to the whole city. His films tend to be very real, full of details newscameras dont notice. He is also famous for being really persistent and pesky in getting interviews with various high profile figures and putting them on the spot. I think his recent movie which I havent seen is about Nike and sweatshops in third world countries. What else... He is really hilarious, what i've seen of him is usually humor masking really serious issues. He holds a lot of weight in progressive politics which is why his letter about what happened in the US has been posted and reposted all over the place. hope it helps. take care, julia
quoted 18 lines From: "Irene McC" <substar@iafrica.com>>From: "Irene McC" <substar@iafrica.com> >Reply-To: substar@iafrica.com >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: [idm] who is Michael Moore ? >Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 16:21:14 +0200 > >This is a genuine question - I live many thousands of miles away; >and have never heard the name Michael Moore before - is he a >journalist? > >I >* > > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2001-09-15 21:05brian albers>This is a genuine question - I live many thousands of miles away; >and have never heard t
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quoted 4 lines This is a genuine question - I live many thousands of miles away;>This is a genuine question - I live many thousands of miles away; >and have never heard the name Michael Moore before - is he a >journalist? >
He's a super-cynical, super-smart and usually super-funny investigative reporter for his own tv show and has done documentaries for film and tv. His first big splash on the scene was in early 90s (?) when he did some documentary on the auto industry in Detroit. I remember a segment he did recently where he took the situation in New York where a black men was shot to death by police when they thought he was grabbing for a gun. Well, it turned out he was only reaching for his wallet. In America, as well as elsewhere probably, there is a law that all toy guns have the tip or some part colored in bright orange so as to not be mistaken for a real gun. Michael Moore then started passing out bright orange colored wallets to all the black people he came across on the steets of NY. Bravo tv, in America at least, was airing his tv show, although I don't know if they still are. You might check www.bravotv.com. He may or may not be well known outside of the US. I would assume he's also got a website of his own, but I haven't checked. _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-09-15 22:05Aaron D MeyersYea... I'm just here to say I think Michael Moore rules. He gave a talk here at my school
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Yea... I'm just here to say I think Michael Moore rules. He gave a talk here at my school the evening after Bush got elected last year. He was hilarious and very insightful and made us all feel a little better on that grave day. I guess it helps that he is closely aligned with my personal politics, but I think he has a lot of important things to say. Oh shit... where's my IDM content? Ok... so like... if you ever have to make the decision between seeing Michael Moore or Autechre live, see Michael Moore! Hooray. -Aaron ----- Original Message ----- From: "Julia Matusov" <ulia5@hotmail.com> Date: Saturday, September 15, 2001 4:58 pm Subject: Re: [idm] who is Michael Moore ?
quoted 68 lines Hi Irene,> Hi Irene, > someone else would probably be able to answer that better but here > is what I > know... > Michael Moore is sort of an icon of American progressive politics. > His > medium is film. Roger and Me is his probably most famous movie and > it > exposes the effect of the closing of a GM factory in Flynt, > Michigan. The > movie demonstrates the devastating effects of mass unemployment > to the > whole city. His films tend to be very real, full of details > newscameras dont > notice. > He is also famous for being really persistent and pesky in getting > interviews with various high profile figures and putting them on > the spot. I > think his recent movie which I havent seen is about Nike and > sweatshops in > third world countries. > What else... He is really hilarious, what i've seen of him is > usually humor > masking really serious issues. > He holds a lot of weight in progressive politics which is why his > letter > about what happened in the US has been posted and reposted all > over the > place. > hope it helps. > > take care, > julia > > > > > >From: "Irene McC" <substar@iafrica.com> > >Reply-To: substar@iafrica.com > >To: idm@hyperreal.org > >Subject: [idm] who is Michael Moore ? > >Date: Sat, 15 Sep 2001 16:21:14 +0200 > > > >This is a genuine question - I live many thousands of miles away; > >and have never heard the name Michael Moore before - is he a > >journalist? > > > >I > >* > > > > > >------------------------------------------------------------------ > --- > >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > _________________________________________________________________ > Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at > http://explorer.msn.com/intl.asp > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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2001-09-16 01:53Kent williamsOn Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Aaron D Meyers wrote: > Yea... I'm just here to say I think Michael M
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On Sat, 15 Sep 2001, Aaron D Meyers wrote:
quoted 4 lines Yea... I'm just here to say I think Michael Moore rules. He gave a> Yea... I'm just here to say I think Michael Moore rules. He gave a > talk here at my school the evening after Bush got elected last year. > He was hilarious and very insightful and made us all feel a little > better on that grave day.
When he spoke in Iowa City, the hot topic has been getting the University out of sweatshop investments, and licensing U of I logos to companies who use sweatshop labor. After a several-day sit-in in the admin building (including a surprise mass arrest late at night), the University finally implented a no-Sweatshop policy. Anyway, when Moore came here to speak, after his talk he led a crowd of several hundred students to the President's mansion to present her with a cake in thanks for the new policy. What ensued was hilarious -- the president peeking out an upstairs window in her bathrobe while several hundred students clapped and hooted while Moore egged them on. She never did come out. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-09-16 19:14Seth RobsonMichael Moore's web site is http://www.michaelmoore.com/ Thankfully, a good deal of "TV Na
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Michael Moore's web site is http://www.michaelmoore.com/ Thankfully, a good deal of "TV Nation" is available on VHS. Order from Amazon or the other usual outlets. I taped every episode when they first aired, but lost several tapes after one move or another, so I'm glad to be able to get ahold of them again. Not having had cable for a few years, I haven't seen "The Awful Truth" yet. I don't agree 100% with his views, but he's always entertaining, compelling, and hilarious. Seth. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-09-16 19:21jonathan morsei almost wet myself when he led a chorus of smokers who had lost their larynx's in christm
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i almost wet myself when he led a chorus of smokers who had lost their larynx's in christmas carols through their voice machines in the lobby of phillip morris
quoted 24 lines From: Seth Robson <robson23@pacbell.net>> From: Seth Robson <robson23@pacbell.net> > Date: Sun, 16 Sep 2001 12:14:31 -0700 > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: [idm] Re: who is Michael Moore ? > > Michael Moore's web site is http://www.michaelmoore.com/ > > Thankfully, a good deal of "TV Nation" is available on VHS. Order from > Amazon or the other usual outlets. I taped every episode when they first > aired, but lost several tapes after one move or another, so I'm glad to > be able to get ahold of them again. > > Not having had cable for a few years, I haven't seen "The Awful Truth" > yet. > > I don't agree 100% with his views, but he's always entertaining, > compelling, and hilarious. > > Seth. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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