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I have the Nothing version of Plaid's Rest Proof Clockwork. I just recently noticed that Warp lists 16 tracks for the album, but the Nothing version only has 15. However, the Nothing version has a "hidden" track, and I'm wondering if anyone knows if this is a different track than the "real" 16th one on the Warp version, or is it the same track? I tried to find out by going to Warp's site and listening to the RA files, but they screwed up; the audio for track 16 on their site is missing; the link just goes to track 15. Help? Thanks, IDM list! -Adam _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On 25 May 2001, at 18:03, Adam Piontek wrote:

quoted 3 lines However, the Nothing version has a "hidden" track, and I'm

> However, the Nothing version has a "hidden" track, and I'm > wondering if anyone knows if this is a different track than the > "real" 16th one on the Warp version, or is it the same track?

The Warp hidden track is actually one of the gems of the album. It has female vocals (either Ed or Andy's girlfriend is the singer, I can't remember whose) and words like "face me" in the chorus. I've dragged the final track into a wave editor, chopped out the silence and burned that last track to a CD-R for easy access, since it's very beautiful. As far as Plaid goes, I'm an unrepenting Plaidophile and would happily recommend any and everything they've done, but then, others would disagree, so take it with a heap of salt. From what I've heard of Double Figure it's yet again a winner of a release and doesn't disappoint. I'm looking forward to getting to know it well. I * --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Here's a reply to the message "[idm] rest proof & Plaid" written on Sat, 26 May 2001 17:07:45 +0200:

quoted 3 lines The Warp hidden track is actually one of the gems of the album. It

>The Warp hidden track is actually one of the gems of the album. It >has female vocals (either Ed or Andy's girlfriend is the singer, I can't >remember whose) and words like "face me" in the chorus.

It's Alison Goldfrapp, although I didn't realise she was involved with one of the Plaid lads. -- Mark Stevens http://www.headspin.clara.net/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Actually, she's not involved with either of the Plaids, though they are friendly (that's why Ms. Goldfrapp was willing to let them open for her in NYC). I don't recall which Plaid it is, but one of them is Leila Arab's (Rephlex) b/f. -Ryan At 10:09 PM 5/26/2001 +0100, you wrote:

quoted 18 lines Here's a reply to the message "[idm] rest proof & Plaid" written on

>Here's a reply to the message "[idm] rest proof & Plaid" written on >Sat, 26 May 2001 17:07:45 +0200: > > >The Warp hidden track is actually one of the gems of the album. It > >has female vocals (either Ed or Andy's girlfriend is the singer, I can't > >remember whose) and words like "face me" in the chorus. > >It's Alison Goldfrapp, although I didn't realise she was involved with >one of the Plaid lads. > > >-- >Mark Stevens >http://www.headspin.clara.net/ > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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Here's a reply to the message "[idm] "Hidden" tracks (was Re: [idm] rest proof & Plaid)" written on Sat, 26 May 2001 17:43:19 +0200:

quoted 2 lines While we're on the subject - is it just me, or are labels getting extra

>While we're on the subject - is it just me, or are labels getting extra >wack lately when it comes to those "hidden" tracks on CDs?

It is starting to get a bit tiresome. It was an interesting gimmick at first (ie, 10 years ago), but there doesn't really seem to be much point to it all these days. Okay, so the "track zero" on EP7 was an interesting spin, but other than that, if there's no point in a "hidden" track being delayed, then why delay it? The only interesting use I've seen of the technique is on A Guy Called Gerald's "Automannik" -- I reckon most of the people who own the album (on CD, obviously) haven't even noticed. If you play the album through normally, everything's fine. But on most of the tracks, you can "rewind" into a negative space at the start of the track and hear a few extra little snippets and samples that aren't picked up when the CD's played normally. The effect is seamless which ever way you do it. I only noticed because I used to have the album on vinyl, played it to death, bought the CD, accidentally rewound a bit too far and heard noises I'd never heard on the vinyl before. -- Mark Stevens http://www.headspin.clara.net/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org