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Re: [idm] THE RAGING AUTECHRE DEBATE

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2001-05-21 14:51Kent williams [idm] THE RAGING AUTECHRE DEBATE
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2001-05-21 14:51Kent williamsDeep thought for the day: If Autechre didn't piss off half the people on IDM every time th
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i'd do mary
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Mon, 21 May 2001 09:51:36 -0500 (CDT)
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[idm] THE RAGING AUTECHRE DEBATE
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Deep thought for the day: If Autechre didn't piss off half the people on IDM every time they release a record or tour, they'd be shirking their job. My mate that orders experimental electronic music at the local store always says that when he plays Kid606 and Autechre in the store, it's the noise rock kids that say "what the fuck is that?" and buy it on the spot. They get it, in ways that people who like more conventional electronic and dance music do not. They make a visceral connection with the sound, rather than worry about whether it's IDM enough. People seem to feel betrayed by Autechre, like Rob and Sean owe them something. They don't. The only thing they owe the world is to continue to make new sounds that challenge us. The minute they make an album that everybody likes, they've jumped the shark. The idea of IDM-listers at an Ae show quivering with indignation that 'their' Autechre isn't satisfying their expectations is purely hilarious to me. It's Art, dammit, not a life style accesory. And for the guy who says that Autechre's tour set is just chaotic Nord Mod patches -- well, Ae has talked about using generative patches. So what? First of all they're not just pushing play and going off to skin up. Second of all, just because they use the same paint box as you doesn't make their art less valid. The fact that you can make a patch that sounds like Ae means they've set the template, and you can fill it in. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-05-22 01:50zimboOn Mon, 21 May 2001, Kent williams wrote: > My mate that orders experimental electronic mu
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i'd do mary
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Mon, 21 May 2001 18:50:03 -0700 (PDT)
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Re: [idm] THE RAGING AUTECHRE DEBATE
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[idm] THE RAGING AUTECHRE DEBATE
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On Mon, 21 May 2001, Kent williams wrote:
quoted 6 lines My mate that orders experimental electronic music at the local store> My mate that orders experimental electronic music at the local store > always says that when he plays Kid606 and Autechre in the store, it's the > noise rock kids that say "what the fuck is that?" and buy it on the spot. > They get it, in ways that people who like more conventional electronic and > dance music do not. They make a visceral connection with the sound, rather > than worry about whether it's IDM enough.
i dont know if i agree with the "is it idm enough" bit because i think people's reactions to music they have followed for a long time go a bit deeper than that, but i cannot agree enough on how true it is to see noise/hardcore kids react to some of the more extreme side of "conventional" electronic/idm artists. they eat that shit up, and it is one of the reasons i REALLY appreciate folks like kid606.. they bridge a gap that folks really would not have considered a few years back.. and that is wonderful!! it is also nice to see folks like autechre do the same, as well as mouse on mars.. oh, and mziq attracted folks at coachella thatim sure would have otherwise shunned softer electronic music when he went more extreme its like an outreach program :) anyway, just random babble chris. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org