--- Myroslaw Bytz <vzaem@humbledesign.com> wrote:
quoted 1 line no. see that's exactly the problem.
> no. see that's exactly the problem.
don't say "no." to people's opinions - that just
reflects arrogance, and it's just plain rediculous.
quoted 9 lines who's to say that signed artists are
> who's to say that signed artists are
> better in expressing themselves than "the rest of
> us?" just because a
> garbageman gets paid for it and we don't get paid
> for expressing our
> sanitary skills, does that automatically mean he is
> better than the rest of
> us are, or just that he has chosen that job? the
> same goes for artists.
I'm guessing a garbageman (or woman) has certain
training and skills that you and I do not have. After
a while, a garbageman has experience as well. I doubt
that there are amateur garbagemen trying to get into
the world of garbage collecting, but if it really was
such a popular market, I'm sure they would have to
"audition" their skills and experience.
This is what demo tapes/cdrs are for. You keep
practicing and working at what you're trying to do,
and eventually a label might think you're good and
pick you up. Certainly this doesn't mean that no one
without a label is any good, just like an actor
without a theatre company isn't necessarily bad.
That's just how it works. Why? Well, an actor
auditions to be in shows rather than just acting for
us on the street because the average public doesn't
really have the time, energy, or education to
recognize greatness in every "free artist" in the
world. We let people who know better than us pick the
actors and directors and stagehands to put on the show
for us. Same goes for music. Labels do a lot of work
that I would rather not do. I don't go sifting
through MP3.com because I have neither the time nor
energy for millions of people who I'm probably not
going to be interested in. So, I trust a few labels
to do the work for me. I don't put my trust in them
100%, of course, and I try to keep a sense of
adventure, but just like any garbageman, some are more
skilled, experienced, and worthy of a paycheck than
others.
Every once in a while, I discover someone new to me
thanks to forums like this list or my group of
friends. They are also like a "label," except that
they are just filtering to me through their own
experiences. Regardless, your assumption that
everyone is equally capable of expressing themselves
(or, I would specify, being interestingly creative) is
false. Some are just more creative than others. Some
are also taller than others, blacker than others, or
more capable of controlling their eye muscles than
others. To deny differences in creative ability among
the human population is like trying to deny biology.
Anyways, art is the lowest form of expression, and
human expression is overrated.
quoted 4 lines honestly think i could easily make much of the
> honestly think i could easily make much of the
> postmodern "yellow square on
> canvas" fad paintings that are up now in art
> museums, but why would i waste
It doesn't sound like you've been to many art museums.
Rather, it sounds like you've absorbed the uninformed
popular bias against art, and are now, ironically,
applying that view to your own creative energies.
For the record, I don't go to many art museums either,
but I've seen a lot of interesting things in them,
quite other than what you describe. Also for the
record, some of the music on this list seems very
"yellow square on canvas"-ish to me. A certain recent
album whose one-word name starts with "C" and ends
with "D" comes to mind...
quoted 9 lines like "art." compromise is what it's about. you
> like "art." compromise is what it's about. you
> either do or you don't. if
> you're smart in this day and age, compromise can
> mean lots of money and
> fame, but once you do that, give up hope for
> expressing yourself cleanly and
> simply from that point on. also give up the
> illusion that you are an
> artist.
Compromise does not mean lots of money and fame. Not
that many artists have lots of money and fame, despite
what you would call compromise. And despite what you
would call compromise, not that many artists, I
believe, really give up their ability to express
themselves cleanly and simply. Sure, it's a danger,
but so is drifting into obscurity and never having
anyone care about you or what you do. Actually, most
of us settle for the latter anyway, I suppose. It's
the curse of consciousness...
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