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2001-04-10 21:11[idm] Cornfield; was Crunch
└─ 2001-04-11 03:19Brian M. Cass [idm] Re: Cornfield; was Crunch
└─ 2001-04-11 03:33EggyToast Re: [idm] Re: Cornfield; was Crunch
└─ 2001-04-11 03:34Brian M. Cass Re: [idm] Re: Cornfield; was Crunch
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└─ 2001-04-11 05:27Brian M. Cass Re: [idm] Re: Cornfield; was Crunch
2001-04-11 10:29Mxyzptlk Re: [idm] Re: Cornfield; was Crunch
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2001-04-10 21:11muziq@IONET.NET> ...are much more > interesting, and Confield should top them all. Because? I've been lis
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quoted 2 lines ...are much more> ...are much more > interesting, and Confield should top them all.
Because? I've been listening to the white labels for a bit, and while COnfield is in that progression Ae has been on about over the last few years, don't go for the future-tense hype. Booth and Brown know they've been crawling further up their own asses with each release, and Confield is just a few folds deeper. Fewer crunchy pubic hair sounds, lots more colonic bass :) Leave all the glowing hype for the more mainstream media, who will be so confused by Confield that they laud it a masterpiece. Want to talk interesting, talk the new Plaid. Laz --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-04-11 03:19Brian M. CassHOLY SMOKES This guy blasts ae then goes on to laud Plaid? Plaid whose two cds are nearly
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HOLY SMOKES This guy blasts ae then goes on to laud Plaid? Plaid whose two cds are nearly indistinguishable from each other and are very very similar to their black dog stuff?!?!?!? Plaid who don't really have an inventive, avant garde bone in their body? On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 muziq@ionet.net wrote:
quoted 18 lines ...are much more> > ...are much more > > interesting, and Confield should top them all. > > Because? > > I've been listening to the white labels for a bit, and while COnfield is in > that progression Ae has been on about over the last few years, don't go for the > future-tense hype. Booth and Brown know they've been crawling further up their > own asses with each release, and Confield is just a few folds deeper. Fewer > crunchy pubic hair sounds, lots more colonic bass :) > > Leave all the glowing hype for the more mainstream media, who will be so > confused by Confield that they laud it a masterpiece. > > Want to talk interesting, talk the new Plaid. > > Laz >
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2001-04-11 03:33EggyToastAt 09:19 PM 4/10/2001 -0600, you wrote: >HOLY SMOKES >This guy blasts ae then goes on to l
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At 09:19 PM 4/10/2001 -0600, you wrote:
quoted 5 lines HOLY SMOKES>HOLY SMOKES >This guy blasts ae then goes on to laud Plaid? Plaid whose two cds are >nearly indistinguishable from each other and are very very similar to >their black dog stuff?!?!?!? >Plaid who don't really have an inventive, avant garde bone in their body?
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2001-04-11 03:34Brian M. CassPoint being this guy criticizes ae for, ah nevermind, I think its pretty obvious what my p
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Point being this guy criticizes ae for, ah nevermind, I think its pretty obvious what my point was and you're just being difficult. On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, EggyToast wrote:
quoted 14 lines At 09:19 PM 4/10/2001 -0600, you wrote:> At 09:19 PM 4/10/2001 -0600, you wrote: > >HOLY SMOKES > >This guy blasts ae then goes on to laud Plaid? Plaid whose two cds are > >nearly indistinguishable from each other and are very very similar to > >their black dog stuff?!?!?!? > >Plaid who don't really have an inventive, avant garde bone in their body? > > point being? > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2001-04-11 03:55lazloBrian, what part of "new Plaid" or "interesting" didn't make sense to you? And to Alex, I'
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Brian, what part of "new Plaid" or "interesting" didn't make sense to you? And to Alex, I'm not an Ae hater by any stretch (you're all wrong--Garbage rules!), but I already see the press machine for this one coming down the pike and it ain't pretty. Warp-USA's general tactics for p.r.ing their three late-spring gems have many writer/editors all a-twitter...and some of them are tripping over their hyperbolic praise getting on the rah-rah wagon. It's starting to smell kinda Daft... laz "Brian M. Cass" wrote:
quoted 30 lines HOLY SMOKES> HOLY SMOKES > This guy blasts ae then goes on to laud Plaid? Plaid whose two cds are > nearly indistinguishable from each other and are very very similar to > their black dog stuff?!?!?!? > Plaid who don't really have an inventive, avant garde bone in their body? > > On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 muziq@ionet.net wrote: > > > > ...are much more > > > interesting, and Confield should top them all. > > > > Because? > > > > I've been listening to the white labels for a bit, and while COnfield is in > > that progression Ae has been on about over the last few years, don't go for the > > future-tense hype. Booth and Brown know they've been crawling further up their > > own asses with each release, and Confield is just a few folds deeper. Fewer > > crunchy pubic hair sounds, lots more colonic bass :) > > > > Leave all the glowing hype for the more mainstream media, who will be so > > confused by Confield that they laud it a masterpiece. > > > > Want to talk interesting, talk the new Plaid. > > > > Laz > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
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2001-04-11 05:27Brian M. CassI stated why "interesting" and Plaid don't mesh. Plaid's cds are almost indistinguishable
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I stated why "interesting" and Plaid don't mesh. Plaid's cds are almost indistinguishable from one another, and their Black Dog stuff is very similar. Their work doesn't progress electronic music in any way other than to raise the quality and production value of tracks to new heights. And while that may sound like a huge endorsement of them, its not really. There are lots of people out there who can put out really nice tracks that are fun that do not require much effort on the listener's part. Most notably Mouse on Mars, whom I prefer. Plaid is just high quality fun music, and not art like ae can be, at least if you ask me. Plaid is good, not interesting as far as I am concerned. On Tue, 10 Apr 2001, lazlo wrote:
quoted 45 lines Brian, what part of "new Plaid" or "interesting" didn't make sens> Brian, what part of "new Plaid" or "interesting" didn't make sense to you? > > And to Alex, I'm not an Ae hater by any stretch (you're all wrong--Garbage rules!), > but I already see the press machine for this one coming down the pike and it ain't > pretty. Warp-USA's general tactics for p.r.ing their three late-spring gems have > many writer/editors all a-twitter...and some of them are tripping over their > hyperbolic praise getting on the rah-rah wagon. > > It's starting to smell kinda Daft... > > laz > > "Brian M. Cass" wrote: > > > HOLY SMOKES > > This guy blasts ae then goes on to laud Plaid? Plaid whose two cds are > > nearly indistinguishable from each other and are very very similar to > > their black dog stuff?!?!?!? > > Plaid who don't really have an inventive, avant garde bone in their body? > > > > On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 muziq@ionet.net wrote: > > > > > > ...are much more > > > > interesting, and Confield should top them all. > > > > > > Because? > > > > > > I've been listening to the white labels for a bit, and while COnfield is in > > > that progression Ae has been on about over the last few years, don't go for the > > > future-tense hype. Booth and Brown know they've been crawling further up their > > > own asses with each release, and Confield is just a few folds deeper. Fewer > > > crunchy pubic hair sounds, lots more colonic bass :) > > > > > > Leave all the glowing hype for the more mainstream media, who will be so > > > confused by Confield that they laud it a masterpiece. > > > > > > Want to talk interesting, talk the new Plaid. > > > > > > Laz > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2001-04-11 10:29MxyzptlkUm. If you count "Trainer" and "Double Figure" (the CD which was actually being referenced
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Um. If you count "Trainer" and "Double Figure" (the CD which was actually being referenced - wich apparently you haven't heard so can't judge), there are four CDs - quite distinguishable in no uncertain terms. I'd say that even in the two I figure you were talking about, there are substantial differences in sound and structure. And you don't add a whole lot of credibility to your statements when you say further that you find BDP very very similar unles maybe you've only heard "Spanners". Without making any comment about the Ae side of this thread, I think it's interesting that people often lose the wider context of pop music in general when discussing IDM fodder. How else could you make the statement that Plaid doesn't have an avant garde side? And when does what you are terming "avant garde" become something other? Not knocking Ae, but it certainly isn't like we haven't heard that style yet. jeff "Brian M. Cass" wrote:
quoted 16 lines HOLY SMOKES> HOLY SMOKES > This guy blasts ae then goes on to laud Plaid? Plaid whose two cds are > nearly indistinguishable from each other and are very very similar to > their black dog stuff?!?!?!? > Plaid who don't really have an inventive, avant garde bone in their body? > > On Tue, 10 Apr 2001 muziq@ionet.net wrote: > > > > ...are much more > > > interesting, and Confield should top them all. > > > > Because? > > > > I've been listening to the white labels for a bit, and while COnfield is in > > that progression Ae has been on about over the last few years, don't go for the > > future-tense hype... --
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