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2001-04-10 20:56Josh Bown [idm] Re: What do you expect from IDM musicians on stage?
└─ 2001-04-10 22:01EggyToast Re: [idm] Re: What do you expect from IDM musicians on stage?
└─ 2001-04-11 00:25omz Re: [idm] Re: burp music
2001-04-10 21:05Josh Bown [idm] Southpacific
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2001-04-10 20:56Josh Bownman, hopefully you are kidding or else you must be both rich and also the musical gadget i
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man, hopefully you are kidding or else you must be both rich and also the musical gadget industry's best customer! The sound created by organic means is infinitely more complex and beautiful than the sound generated by DSP processes.... I would consider the sound of a waterfall for instance or the ocean or insects at night (and not on CD) to be greater than the entire output of all IDM artists put together.... probably greater than all sounds made by humanity itself throughout our entire history.... In the same way as a real sunset is more beautiful than any work of art or photography by humans... Of course this is my bias... maybe some of you think a dog turd on the sidewalk is the most beautiful thing... it is still nature.... in essence, DSP processes are at their root natural, because math and the physics of sound on which the algorithims are based originate in nature, but they are like the genetic engineering of sound... they are like the human reductionistic tendency taken to the extreme and applied to the nature of sound... I am sure that whatever music you create using Kyma or whatever will have melody in it, right? or rythym???? if it doesn't have melody, rythym, tones, etc.... is it music? is noise music? is silence music? is my fart music? anyway... peace out.... I need to get back to work writing code..... Andrew Schrock wrote:
quoted 10 lines If you're not using technology developed within the last 6 months, you're> > If you're not using technology developed within the last 6 months, you're > a reflection of the past. Please, if you have a serious dedication towards > forwarding electronic music technology, don't use any synthesizers or > samplers. > > Andrew > > PS: Anybody not using Kyma is a fag too, Atom Heart and Autechre, you are > the only ones off the hook.
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2001-04-10 22:01EggyToast>The sound created by organic means is infinitely more complex and >beautiful than the sou
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quoted 16 lines The sound created by organic means is infinitely more complex and>The sound created by organic means is infinitely more complex and >beautiful than the sound generated by DSP processes.... I would consider >the sound of a waterfall for instance or the ocean or insects at night >(and not on CD) to be greater than the entire output of all IDM artists >put together.... probably greater than all sounds made by humanity >itself throughout our entire history.... In the same way as a real >sunset is more beautiful than any work of art or photography by >humans... Of course this is my bias... maybe some of you think a dog >turd on the sidewalk is the most beautiful thing... it is still >nature.... > >in essence, DSP processes are at their root natural, because math and >the physics of sound on which the algorithims are based originate in >nature, but they are like the genetic engineering of sound... they are >like the human reductionistic tendency taken to the extreme and applied >to the nature of sound...
Same with violins, etc. They're all still man-made; it's not like there's some cello tree in south africa or something. We made the instruments we played before, and we make oscillators and we're going to keep making instruments. But, to go along with the natural sounds you mentioned before, how is a waterfall more natural than a drum? How are humans not natural? :P Why is water falling over a rock face more complex than my finger plucking a string? :b
quoted 4 lines I am sure that whatever music you create using Kyma or whatever will>I am sure that whatever music you create using Kyma or whatever will >have melody in it, right? or rythym???? if it doesn't have melody, >rythym, tones, etc.... is it music? is noise music? is silence music? is >my fart music?
Or burp music - see Mike & Rich. cheers, /derek ------- eggytoast.com ------- now updated daily --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-04-11 00:25omz>>I am sure that whatever music you create using Kyma or whatever will >>have melody in it
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quoted 6 lines I am sure that whatever music you create using Kyma or whatever will>>I am sure that whatever music you create using Kyma or whatever will >>have melody in it, right? or rythym???? if it doesn't have melody, >>rythym, tones, etc.... is it music? is noise music? is silence music? is >>my fart music? > >Or burp music - see Mike & Rich.
Or Stock, Hausen and Walkman...the 'Hang Ups' 7" has one of the greatest burp-fests of all time. Classic. -- _____ omz _____ Beautamous Loaf Recordings -streaming audio http://www.mp3.com/stations/beautamous_loaf --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2001-04-10 21:05Josh BownJust wanted to ask have any of you in here heard the band "Southpacific"??? It is a beauti
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Just wanted to ask have any of you in here heard the band "Southpacific"??? It is a beautiful example of the use of traditional instruments like drums, bass and guitar to achieve amazingly deep, powerful, innovative, warm, psychedelic sonic textures when combined with effects and synth technology in an organic and awesome way. Everytime I hear it it just puts me off in space and some other dimension.... Truly original, experimental, etc.... and yet, familiar? They are my favorite band right now..... --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org