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EggyToast
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Tue, 10 Apr 2001 17:01:56 -0500
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Re: [idm] Re: What do you expect from IDM musicians on stage?
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quoted 16 lines The sound created by organic means is infinitely more complex and>The sound created by organic means is infinitely more complex and >beautiful than the sound generated by DSP processes.... I would consider >the sound of a waterfall for instance or the ocean or insects at night >(and not on CD) to be greater than the entire output of all IDM artists >put together.... probably greater than all sounds made by humanity >itself throughout our entire history.... In the same way as a real >sunset is more beautiful than any work of art or photography by >humans... Of course this is my bias... maybe some of you think a dog >turd on the sidewalk is the most beautiful thing... it is still >nature.... > >in essence, DSP processes are at their root natural, because math and >the physics of sound on which the algorithims are based originate in >nature, but they are like the genetic engineering of sound... they are >like the human reductionistic tendency taken to the extreme and applied >to the nature of sound...
Same with violins, etc. They're all still man-made; it's not like there's some cello tree in south africa or something. We made the instruments we played before, and we make oscillators and we're going to keep making instruments. But, to go along with the natural sounds you mentioned before, how is a waterfall more natural than a drum? How are humans not natural? :P Why is water falling over a rock face more complex than my finger plucking a string? :b
quoted 4 lines I am sure that whatever music you create using Kyma or whatever will>I am sure that whatever music you create using Kyma or whatever will >have melody in it, right? or rythym???? if it doesn't have melody, >rythym, tones, etc.... is it music? is noise music? is silence music? is >my fart music?
Or burp music - see Mike & Rich. cheers, /derek ------- eggytoast.com ------- now updated daily --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org