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This is just something to think about. I wonder why Mr. Herren tends to embrace hip-hop that comes from the east and west coasts while he is a native of Atlanta. Why is he collaborating with Anticon when he could be collaborating with Cee-Lo? I can only hope that he'll recruit some collaborators from his hometown before his Prefuse full length is complete. I liked the way Richard Devine can pay a small homage to Miami bass, but end up with something completely different. Let's hope Scott can at least match Richard and find a more secure niche than we've heard so far. This may be picky of me, but I think it's very relevant. If he ignores the fact that he comes from the South, then his music will be regionally invalid. And that would mean that his music is culturally weak. And culturally weak hip-hop is BAD hip-hop, no matter how much you're trying to "rebuild" it. Btw, don't get me wrong, I LOVE me some Delarosa & Asora :) but this is just a pet peev of mine. Again, just something to think about. -char _________________________________________________________________ Get your FREE download of MSN Explorer at http://explorer.msn.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

below is arm charlie's response to my break down. and here's a little post script of a major point i forgot to make. and at the bottom is his original post. figure it out. tanx. [[`] *Overlooked this earlier, but... What scott has in coming with 'southern' hip hop/rap is that he uses Electroinics (drum machine if you break it down) this is a Major regional style that he shares with the locals. you don't find to much 'drummachine/ electronics' production in the west or east coast these days... anyway. ][`] ----- Original Message ----- From: Armchair Charlie <dubnovibrator@hotmail.com> To: <kam@columbus.rr.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [idm] Scott Herren and ATL (east? west? huh?)

quoted 33 lines First of all, are 'we' sure that scott is even From the ATL ?

> >First of all, are 'we' sure that scott is even From the ATL ? > >might just be a student.. > > not sure, he's there though. > > > > >Imo, what scott does is not hip hop but electronic music w/ > >hip hop influences or 'flavor' if you will. > > of course. never thought otherwise. > > >There's not allot of 'intelligent' let alone 'good' 'hip hop' (more > >like RAP) coming from the south, besides the obvious > >Outkasts. > > typical stereotype. i think scott probably has the same attitude. but i > can't say that i don't halfway agree with you. > > >Anticon arn't from the west coast buddy, try midwest (mad props!) > > oops. still ain't dirty south. that was my main point. > > >Nothing I've heard from r.devine even sounds remotely like > >miami bass. > > take a closer listen, it's there. slightly perhaps, but it's there. > > >I think what scott does is fairly unique and could be considerd > >his own 'secure niche'. expect the bandwagon to follow i'm > >sure. > > yeah he's got something good going. i really like all of his work, > especially delarosa. but prefuse is where he tries his hand at hip-hop,

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quoted 21 lines i personally think that's his weakest area.

> i personally think that's his weakest area. > > >Invalid/weak argument ? i think so... > > to each his own. again, just something to think about. > > >and to top things off i'm sure (at least i hope) that s.herren did'nt > >himself say that he was trying to 'rebuild' hip hop. prolly just a > >press bite from wap. > > yeah i don't know. > > >good music is good music. > > good music isn't always original. great music is always original. > > >enjoy. > > don't mind if i do :) > > -char

----- Original Message ----- From: Armchair Charlie <dubnovibrator@hotmail.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 3:48 PM Subject: [idm] Scott Herren and ATL

quoted 5 lines This is just something to think about. I wonder why Mr. Herren tends to

> This is just something to think about. I wonder why Mr. Herren tends to > embrace hip-hop that comes from the east and west coasts while he is a > native of Atlanta. Why is he collaborating with Anticon when he could be > collaborating with Cee-Lo? I can only hope that he'll recruit some > collaborators from his hometown before his Prefuse full length is

complete.

quoted 1 line I liked the way Richard Devine can pay a small homage to Miami bass, but

> I liked the way Richard Devine can pay a small homage to Miami bass, but

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quoted 1 line up with something completely different. Let's hope Scott can at least

> up with something completely different. Let's hope Scott can at least

match

quoted 2 lines Richard and find a more secure niche than we've heard so far. This may be

> Richard and find a more secure niche than we've heard so far. This may be > picky of me, but I think it's very relevant. If he ignores the fact that

he

quoted 5 lines comes from the South, then his music will be regionally invalid. And that

> comes from the South, then his music will be regionally invalid. And that > would mean that his music is culturally weak. And culturally weak hip-hop > is BAD hip-hop, no matter how much you're trying to "rebuild" it. > > Btw, don't get me wrong, I LOVE me some Delarosa & Asora :) but this is

just

quoted 10 lines a pet peev of mine. Again, just something to think about.

> a pet peev of mine. Again, just something to think about. > > -char > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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