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From:
_Dipfthong_
To:
, Armchair Charlie
Date:
Wed, 21 Feb 2001 03:16:12 -0500
Subject:
[idm] Fw: [idm] Scott Herren and ATL (east? west? huh?)
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below is arm charlie's response to my break down. and here's a little post script of a major point i forgot to make. and at the bottom is his original post. figure it out. tanx. [[`] *Overlooked this earlier, but... What scott has in coming with 'southern' hip hop/rap is that he uses Electroinics (drum machine if you break it down) this is a Major regional style that he shares with the locals. you don't find to much 'drummachine/ electronics' production in the west or east coast these days... anyway. ][`] ----- Original Message ----- From: Armchair Charlie <dubnovibrator@hotmail.com> To: <kam@columbus.rr.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 4:41 PM Subject: Re: [idm] Scott Herren and ATL (east? west? huh?)
quoted 33 lines First of all, are 'we' sure that scott is even From the ATL ?> >First of all, are 'we' sure that scott is even From the ATL ? > >might just be a student.. > > not sure, he's there though. > > > > >Imo, what scott does is not hip hop but electronic music w/ > >hip hop influences or 'flavor' if you will. > > of course. never thought otherwise. > > >There's not allot of 'intelligent' let alone 'good' 'hip hop' (more > >like RAP) coming from the south, besides the obvious > >Outkasts. > > typical stereotype. i think scott probably has the same attitude. but i > can't say that i don't halfway agree with you. > > >Anticon arn't from the west coast buddy, try midwest (mad props!) > > oops. still ain't dirty south. that was my main point. > > >Nothing I've heard from r.devine even sounds remotely like > >miami bass. > > take a closer listen, it's there. slightly perhaps, but it's there. > > >I think what scott does is fairly unique and could be considerd > >his own 'secure niche'. expect the bandwagon to follow i'm > >sure. > > yeah he's got something good going. i really like all of his work, > especially delarosa. but prefuse is where he tries his hand at hip-hop,
and
quoted 21 lines i personally think that's his weakest area.> i personally think that's his weakest area. > > >Invalid/weak argument ? i think so... > > to each his own. again, just something to think about. > > >and to top things off i'm sure (at least i hope) that s.herren did'nt > >himself say that he was trying to 'rebuild' hip hop. prolly just a > >press bite from wap. > > yeah i don't know. > > >good music is good music. > > good music isn't always original. great music is always original. > > >enjoy. > > don't mind if i do :) > > -char
----- Original Message ----- From: Armchair Charlie <dubnovibrator@hotmail.com> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, February 20, 2001 3:48 PM Subject: [idm] Scott Herren and ATL
quoted 5 lines This is just something to think about. I wonder why Mr. Herren tends to> This is just something to think about. I wonder why Mr. Herren tends to > embrace hip-hop that comes from the east and west coasts while he is a > native of Atlanta. Why is he collaborating with Anticon when he could be > collaborating with Cee-Lo? I can only hope that he'll recruit some > collaborators from his hometown before his Prefuse full length is
complete.
quoted 1 line I liked the way Richard Devine can pay a small homage to Miami bass, but> I liked the way Richard Devine can pay a small homage to Miami bass, but
end
quoted 1 line up with something completely different. Let's hope Scott can at least> up with something completely different. Let's hope Scott can at least
match
quoted 2 lines Richard and find a more secure niche than we've heard so far. This may be> Richard and find a more secure niche than we've heard so far. This may be > picky of me, but I think it's very relevant. If he ignores the fact that
he
quoted 5 lines comes from the South, then his music will be regionally invalid. And that> comes from the South, then his music will be regionally invalid. And that > would mean that his music is culturally weak. And culturally weak hip-hop > is BAD hip-hop, no matter how much you're trying to "rebuild" it. > > Btw, don't get me wrong, I LOVE me some Delarosa & Asora :) but this is
just
quoted 10 lines a pet peev of mine. Again, just something to think about.> a pet peev of mine. Again, just something to think about. > > -char > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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