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In respect to the "Best of 2015" thread, I figured it may be worth bringing the Vaporwave topic to another email. I'm fairly new to this list, so I've been hesitant to ask about Vaporwave, but it seems like something people have thoughts on. Here's a video I found in my own research that seems to do a pretty good job describing the history of (which is actually very interesting). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpP0mXOlWM But again, it's kind of academic. Anyone here into Vaporwave and can explain a bit of why/what? It seems that people are generally very opinionated on it in the more well-respected music circles. Plus, it seems to have a very devout following, considering the obscurity of it. Seemingly like IDM in its infancy. This is the song that people often reference most closely with the genre. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE Thoughts? Opinions? Bueller?

Ha! Reposting This, There are different sub genres of Vaporwave. Personally, I've been jamming of this Taspo release all year: http://dreamcatalogue.bandcamp.com/album/long-life 18carat affair, Vector Graphics, St Pepsi, and Bloodwave are some of my favorites.. classics IMO The Dream Catalogue has had a good run this year. I interested in seeing where their sub label Nivana Port leads to. I do find this off topic though, unless the genre starts getting more IDM like. Any thoughts on the artist Sandtimer? On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> wrote:

quoted 25 lines In respect to the "Best of 2015" thread, I figured it may be worth

> In respect to the "Best of 2015" thread, I figured it may be worth > bringing the Vaporwave topic to another email. > > I'm fairly new to this list, so I've been hesitant to ask about Vaporwave, > but it seems like something people have thoughts on. > > Here's a video I found in my own research that seems to do a pretty good > job describing the history of (which is actually very interesting). > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpP0mXOlWM > > But again, it's kind of academic. Anyone here into Vaporwave and can > explain a bit of why/what? It seems that people are generally very > opinionated on it in the more well-respected music circles. Plus, it seems > to have a very devout following, considering the obscurity of it. Seemingly > like IDM in its infancy. > > This is the song that people often reference most closely with the genre. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE > > Thoughts? Opinions? Bueller? > > >

A lot of vaporware is Daniel Lopatin's fault, IMO, so it's semi on topic. The Chuck Person / Games / Ford&Lopatin material was kind of the first VHS-fetishist cough syrup music to break out. It's not bad, exactly, but it feels very shallow to me. - Eric Sorenson - N45.569, W122.763 - http://twitter.com/ahpook -

quoted 33 lines On Jan 5, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jan 5, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> wrote: > > Ha! Reposting This, > > There are different sub genres of Vaporwave. Personally, I've been jamming of this Taspo release all year: > > http://dreamcatalogue.bandcamp.com/album/long-life <http://dreamcatalogue.bandcamp.com/album/long-life> > > 18carat affair, Vector Graphics, St Pepsi, and Bloodwave are some of my favorites.. classics IMO > > The Dream Catalogue has had a good run this year. I interested in seeing where their sub label Nivana Port leads to. I do find this off topic though, unless the genre starts getting more IDM like. Any thoughts on the artist Sandtimer? > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in <mailto:ben@diamondste.in>> wrote: > In respect to the "Best of 2015" thread, I figured it may be worth bringing the Vaporwave topic to another email. > > I'm fairly new to this list, so I've been hesitant to ask about Vaporwave, but it seems like something people have thoughts on. > > Here's a video I found in my own research that seems to do a pretty good job describing the history of (which is actually very interesting). > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpP0mXOlWM > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpP0mXOlWM> > > But again, it's kind of academic. Anyone here into Vaporwave and can explain a bit of why/what? It seems that people are generally very opinionated on it in the more well-respected music circles. Plus, it seems to have a very devout following, considering the obscurity of it. Seemingly like IDM in its infancy. > > This is the song that people often reference most closely with the genre. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE> > > Thoughts? Opinions? Bueller? > > >

lol loving "vhs-fetishist cough syrup music" Clint Anderson Systems Engineer "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Eric Sorenson <eric@explosive.net> wrote:

quoted 58 lines A lot of vaporware is Daniel Lopatin's fault, IMO, so it's semi on topic.

> A lot of vaporware is Daniel Lopatin's fault, IMO, so it's semi on topic. > The Chuck Person / Games / Ford&Lopatin material was kind of the first > VHS-fetishist cough syrup music to break out. > > It's not bad, exactly, but it feels very shallow to me. > > > - Eric Sorenson - N45.569, W122.763 - http://twitter.com/ahpook - > > > On Jan 5, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> > wrote: > > Ha! Reposting This, > > There are different sub genres of Vaporwave. Personally, I've been jamming > of this Taspo release all year: > > http://dreamcatalogue.bandcamp.com/album/long-life > > 18carat affair, Vector Graphics, St Pepsi, and Bloodwave are some of > my favorites.. classics IMO > > The Dream Catalogue has had a good run this year. I interested in seeing > where their sub label Nivana Port leads to. I do find this off topic > though, unless the genre starts getting more IDM like. Any thoughts on > the artist Sandtimer? > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> > wrote: > >> In respect to the "Best of 2015" thread, I figured it may be worth >> bringing the Vaporwave topic to another email. >> >> I'm fairly new to this list, so I've been hesitant to ask about >> Vaporwave, but it seems like something people have thoughts on. >> >> Here's a video I found in my own research that seems to do a pretty good >> job describing the history of (which is actually very interesting). >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpP0mXOlWM >> >> But again, it's kind of academic. Anyone here into Vaporwave and can >> explain a bit of why/what? It seems that people are generally very >> opinionated on it in the more well-respected music circles. Plus, it seems >> to have a very devout following, considering the obscurity of it. Seemingly >> like IDM in its infancy. >> >> This is the song that people often reference most closely with the genre. >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE >> >> Thoughts? Opinions? Bueller? >> >> >> > >

How to Make Vaporwave https://youtu.be/wyt_87yCyNw Was just watching this. Can't remember how i found it. Maybe someone here posted the link already. It's good for a laugh. On 1/6/2016 3:20 PM, Clint Anderson wrote:

quoted 71 lines lol loving "vhs-fetishist cough syrup music"

> lol loving "vhs-fetishist cough syrup music" > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 7:09 PM, Eric Sorenson <eric@explosive.net > <mailto:eric@explosive.net>> wrote: > > A lot of vaporware is Daniel Lopatin's fault, IMO, so it's semi on > topic. The Chuck Person / Games / Ford&Lopatin material was kind of > the first VHS-fetishist cough syrup music to break out. > > It's not bad, exactly, but it feels very shallow to me. > > > - Eric Sorenson - N45.569, W122.763 - http://twitter.com/ahpook - > > >> On Jan 5, 2016, at 4:56 PM, Ransom Schafer >> <ransom.schafer@gmail.com <mailto:ransom.schafer@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Ha! Reposting This, >> >> There are different sub genres of Vaporwave. Personally, I've been >> jamming of this Taspo release all year: >> >> http://dreamcatalogue.bandcamp.com/album/long-life >> >> 18carat affair, Vector Graphics, St Pepsi, and Bloodwave are some >> of my favorites.. classics IMO >> The Dream Catalogue has had a good run this year. I interested in >> seeing where their sub label Nivana Port leads to. I do find this >> off topic though, unless the genre starts getting more IDM like. >> Any thoughts on the artist Sandtimer? >> >> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Ben Diamondstein >> <ben@diamondste.in <mailto:ben@diamondste.in>> wrote: >> >> In respect to the "Best of 2015" thread, I figured it may be >> worth bringing the Vaporwave topic to another email. >> >> I'm fairly new to this list, so I've been hesitant to ask >> about Vaporwave, but it seems like something people have >> thoughts on. >> >> Here's a video I found in my own research that seems to do a >> pretty good job describing the history of (which is actually >> very interesting). >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpP0mXOlWM >> >> But again, it's kind of academic. Anyone here into Vaporwave >> and can explain a bit of why/what? It seems that people are >> generally very opinionated on it in the more well-respected >> music circles. Plus, it seems to have a very devout following, >> considering the obscurity of it. Seemingly like IDM in its >> infancy. >> >> This is the song that people often reference most closely with >> the genre. >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE >> >> Thoughts? Opinions? Bueller? >> >> >> > >

-- Sham Beam

Adam Harper who writes occasionally for the Wire and Dummy Mag is kind of the vaporwave ur-guru. Obsessive and academic. His blog, in case you have a few millennia of free time to burn: http://rougesfoam.blogspot.com/ From: Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> To: Idm List <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2016 4:50 PM Subject: What is Vaporwave? In respect to the "Best of 2015" thread, I figured it may be worth bringing the Vaporwave topic to another email.  I'm fairly new to this list, so I've been hesitant to ask about Vaporwave, but it seems like something people have thoughts on.  Here's a video I found in my own research that seems to do a pretty good job describing the history of (which is actually very interesting).  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpP0mXOlWM But again, it's kind of academic. Anyone here into Vaporwave and can explain a bit of why/what? It seems that people are generally very opinionated on it in the more well-respected music circles. Plus, it seems to have a very devout following, considering the obscurity of it. Seemingly like IDM in its infancy.  This is the song that people often reference most closely with the genre.  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE Thoughts? Opinions? Bueller? 

I don't mind academic. From what I can tell, Vaporwave seems to have a lot of commentary attached to it, so I'm not surprised there's a lot of academic-level discussion around it. On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Christopher Mauldin <kit.mauldin@yahoo.com> wrote:

quoted 39 lines Adam Harper who writes occasionally for the Wire and Dummy Mag is kind of

> Adam Harper who writes occasionally for the Wire and Dummy Mag is kind of > the vaporwave ur-guru. Obsessive and academic. His blog, in case you have a > few millennia of free time to burn: http://rougesfoam.blogspot.com/ > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> > *To:* Idm List <idm@hyperreal.org> > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 5, 2016 4:50 PM > *Subject:* What is Vaporwave? > > In respect to the "Best of 2015" thread, I figured it may be worth > bringing the Vaporwave topic to another email. > > I'm fairly new to this list, so I've been hesitant to ask about Vaporwave, > but it seems like something people have thoughts on. > > Here's a video I found in my own research that seems to do a pretty good > job describing the history of (which is actually very interesting). > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpP0mXOlWM > > But again, it's kind of academic. Anyone here into Vaporwave and can > explain a bit of why/what? It seems that people are generally very > opinionated on it in the more well-respected music circles. Plus, it seems > to have a very devout following, considering the obscurity of it. Seemingly > like IDM in its infancy. > > This is the song that people often reference most closely with the genre. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE > > Thoughts? Opinions? Bueller? > > > > >

Yeah, Vaporwave is kind of weird in the sense that it was born out of an aesthetic and then evolved so much beyond it while keeping the aesthetic evolving. I've seen some really interesting discussion on what Vaporwave becoming so ambient-focused in releases like 2814 means and where we draw the lin on what is and isn't vaporwave. The Vaporwave documentary is great but was unfortunately released before "I'll try living like this", which I and many others consider the best vaporwave release of 2015. If you haven't listened to it, give the track "Somebody Home" a listen. I truly believe that the overstimulation and grooves of that song are going to become a theme of vaporwave at some point soon. I think the vaporwave rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than a lot of people think, but it's a very weird genre to break into. On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> wrote:

quoted 49 lines I don't mind academic. From what I can tell, Vaporwave seems to have a lot

> I don't mind academic. From what I can tell, Vaporwave seems to have a lot > of commentary attached to it, so I'm not surprised there's a lot of > academic-level discussion around it. > > > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Christopher Mauldin <kit.mauldin@yahoo.com > > wrote: > >> Adam Harper who writes occasionally for the Wire and Dummy Mag is kind of >> the vaporwave ur-guru. Obsessive and academic. His blog, in case you have a >> few millennia of free time to burn: http://rougesfoam.blogspot.com/ >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> >> *To:* Idm List <idm@hyperreal.org> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 5, 2016 4:50 PM >> *Subject:* What is Vaporwave? >> >> In respect to the "Best of 2015" thread, I figured it may be worth >> bringing the Vaporwave topic to another email. >> >> I'm fairly new to this list, so I've been hesitant to ask about >> Vaporwave, but it seems like something people have thoughts on. >> >> Here's a video I found in my own research that seems to do a pretty good >> job describing the history of (which is actually very interesting). >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpP0mXOlWM >> >> But again, it's kind of academic. Anyone here into Vaporwave and can >> explain a bit of why/what? It seems that people are generally very >> opinionated on it in the more well-respected music circles. Plus, it seems >> to have a very devout following, considering the obscurity of it. Seemingly >> like IDM in its infancy. >> >> This is the song that people often reference most closely with the genre. >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE >> >> Thoughts? Opinions? Bueller? >> >> >> >> >> >

-- From the desk of Alec Wild

Vaporwave is hipster kids from the late 90's/ early 00's reminiscing over a time they didn't exist in by ironically & lazily sampling 80's hits and slowing them down so as to they're doing something new and original, when in reality they're just contributing more and more detritus to basically what's an inside joke. Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 17:11:59 -0800 Subject: Re: What is Vaporwave? From: alecwild6@gmail.com To: ben@diamondste.in CC: kit.mauldin@yahoo.com; idm@hyperreal.org Yeah, Vaporwave is kind of weird in the sense that it was born out of an aesthetic and then evolved so much beyond it while keeping the aesthetic evolving. I've seen some really interesting discussion on what Vaporwave becoming so ambient-focused in releases like 2814 means and where we draw the lin on what is and isn't vaporwave. The Vaporwave documentary is great but was unfortunately released before "I'll try living like this", which I and many others consider the best vaporwave release of 2015. If you haven't listened to it, give the track "Somebody Home" a listen. I truly believe that the overstimulation and grooves of that song are going to become a theme of vaporwave at some point soon. I think the vaporwave rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than a lot of people think, but it's a very weird genre to break into. On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> wrote: I don't mind academic. From what I can tell, Vaporwave seems to have a lot of commentary attached to it, so I'm not surprised there's a lot of academic-level discussion around it. On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Christopher Mauldin <kit.mauldin@yahoo.com> wrote: Adam Harper who writes occasionally for the Wire and Dummy Mag is kind of the vaporwave ur-guru. Obsessive and academic. His blog, in case you have a few millennia of free time to burn: http://rougesfoam.blogspot.com/ From: Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> To: Idm List <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2016 4:50 PM Subject: What is Vaporwave? In respect to the "Best of 2015" thread, I figured it may be worth bringing the Vaporwave topic to another email. I'm fairly new to this list, so I've been hesitant to ask about Vaporwave, but it seems like something people have thoughts on. Here's a video I found in my own research that seems to do a pretty good job describing the history of (which is actually very interesting). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpP0mXOlWM But again, it's kind of academic. Anyone here into Vaporwave and can explain a bit of why/what? It seems that people are generally very opinionated on it in the more well-respected music circles. Plus, it seems to have a very devout following, considering the obscurity of it. Seemingly like IDM in its infancy. This is the song that people often reference most closely with the genre. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE Thoughts? Opinions? Bueller? -- From the desk of Alec Wild

Ha. So this IS a contentious topic after all. On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:30 PM, c. jones <coda27@hotmail.com> wrote:

quoted 88 lines Vaporwave is hipster kids from the late 90's/ early 00's reminiscing over

> > Vaporwave is hipster kids from the late 90's/ early 00's reminiscing over > a time they didn't exist in by ironically & lazily sampling 80's hits and > slowing them down so as to they're doing something new and original, when > in reality they're just contributing more and more detritus to basically > what's an inside joke. > > ------------------------------ > Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 17:11:59 -0800 > Subject: Re: What is Vaporwave? > From: alecwild6@gmail.com > To: ben@diamondste.in > CC: kit.mauldin@yahoo.com; idm@hyperreal.org > > > Yeah, Vaporwave is kind of weird in the sense that it was born out of an > aesthetic and then evolved so much beyond it while keeping the aesthetic > evolving. I've seen some really interesting discussion on what Vaporwave > becoming so ambient-focused in releases like 2814 means and where we draw > the lin on what is and isn't vaporwave. > > The Vaporwave documentary is great but was unfortunately released before > "I'll try living like this", which I and many others consider the best > vaporwave release of 2015. If you haven't listened to it, give the track > "Somebody Home" a listen. I truly believe that the overstimulation and > grooves of that song are going to become a theme of vaporwave at some point > soon. > > I think the vaporwave rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than a lot of people > think, but it's a very weird genre to break into. > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> > wrote: > > I don't mind academic. From what I can tell, Vaporwave seems to have a lot > of commentary attached to it, so I'm not surprised there's a lot of > academic-level discussion around it. > > > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Christopher Mauldin <kit.mauldin@yahoo.com > > wrote: > > Adam Harper who writes occasionally for the Wire and Dummy Mag is kind of > the vaporwave ur-guru. Obsessive and academic. His blog, in case you have a > few millennia of free time to burn: http://rougesfoam.blogspot.com/ > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> > *To:* Idm List <idm@hyperreal.org> > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 5, 2016 4:50 PM > *Subject:* What is Vaporwave? > > In respect to the "Best of 2015" thread, I figured it may be worth > bringing the Vaporwave topic to another email. > > I'm fairly new to this list, so I've been hesitant to ask about Vaporwave, > but it seems like something people have thoughts on. > > Here's a video I found in my own research that seems to do a pretty good > job describing the history of (which is actually very interesting). > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpP0mXOlWM > > But again, it's kind of academic. Anyone here into Vaporwave and can > explain a bit of why/what? It seems that people are generally very > opinionated on it in the more well-respected music circles. Plus, it seems > to have a very devout following, considering the obscurity of it. Seemingly > like IDM in its infancy. > > This is the song that people often reference most closely with the genre. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE > > Thoughts? Opinions? Bueller? > > > > > > > > > -- > From the desk of Alec Wild >

If you think Vaporwave has consisted of slowed down 80's songs since 2013, I would suggest you check out any of the popular releases from the past 2 years. Vaporwave is pretty far past that at this point On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:30 PM, c. jones <coda27@hotmail.com> wrote:

quoted 88 lines Vaporwave is hipster kids from the late 90's/ early 00's reminiscing over

> > Vaporwave is hipster kids from the late 90's/ early 00's reminiscing over > a time they didn't exist in by ironically & lazily sampling 80's hits and > slowing them down so as to they're doing something new and original, when > in reality they're just contributing more and more detritus to basically > what's an inside joke. > > ------------------------------ > Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 17:11:59 -0800 > Subject: Re: What is Vaporwave? > From: alecwild6@gmail.com > To: ben@diamondste.in > CC: kit.mauldin@yahoo.com; idm@hyperreal.org > > > Yeah, Vaporwave is kind of weird in the sense that it was born out of an > aesthetic and then evolved so much beyond it while keeping the aesthetic > evolving. I've seen some really interesting discussion on what Vaporwave > becoming so ambient-focused in releases like 2814 means and where we draw > the lin on what is and isn't vaporwave. > > The Vaporwave documentary is great but was unfortunately released before > "I'll try living like this", which I and many others consider the best > vaporwave release of 2015. If you haven't listened to it, give the track > "Somebody Home" a listen. I truly believe that the overstimulation and > grooves of that song are going to become a theme of vaporwave at some point > soon. > > I think the vaporwave rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than a lot of people > think, but it's a very weird genre to break into. > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> > wrote: > > I don't mind academic. From what I can tell, Vaporwave seems to have a lot > of commentary attached to it, so I'm not surprised there's a lot of > academic-level discussion around it. > > > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Christopher Mauldin <kit.mauldin@yahoo.com > > wrote: > > Adam Harper who writes occasionally for the Wire and Dummy Mag is kind of > the vaporwave ur-guru. Obsessive and academic. His blog, in case you have a > few millennia of free time to burn: http://rougesfoam.blogspot.com/ > > > > ------------------------------ > *From:* Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> > *To:* Idm List <idm@hyperreal.org> > *Sent:* Tuesday, January 5, 2016 4:50 PM > *Subject:* What is Vaporwave? > > In respect to the "Best of 2015" thread, I figured it may be worth > bringing the Vaporwave topic to another email. > > I'm fairly new to this list, so I've been hesitant to ask about Vaporwave, > but it seems like something people have thoughts on. > > Here's a video I found in my own research that seems to do a pretty good > job describing the history of (which is actually very interesting). > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpP0mXOlWM > > But again, it's kind of academic. Anyone here into Vaporwave and can > explain a bit of why/what? It seems that people are generally very > opinionated on it in the more well-respected music circles. Plus, it seems > to have a very devout following, considering the obscurity of it. Seemingly > like IDM in its infancy. > > This is the song that people often reference most closely with the genre. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE > > Thoughts? Opinions? Bueller? > > > > > > > > > -- > From the desk of Alec Wild >

-- From the desk of Alec Wild

I've kept up on it some and still find most of it boring & uninspiring, or as if it has moved into the territory of other already established genres, whilst adding an ironic 80's aesthetic. To me I feel as if I could get the same effect as listening to a vaporwave track by drinking too much cough syrup and passing out while I Can't Go For That by Hall & Oates plays on a loop in the next room over. I do find the song B:/ Infinite Login by Blank Banshee quite tolerable though: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DYM0kEJM8mU And I enjoy FrankJavCee's breakdown of vaporwave: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wyt_87yCyNw Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 17:32:49 -0800 Subject: Re: What is Vaporwave? From: alecwild6@gmail.com To: coda27@hotmail.com CC: idm@hyperreal.org If you think Vaporwave has consisted of slowed down 80's songs since 2013, I would suggest you check out any of the popular releases from the past 2 years. Vaporwave is pretty far past that at this point On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:30 PM, c. jones <coda27@hotmail.com> wrote: Vaporwave is hipster kids from the late 90's/ early 00's reminiscing over a time they didn't exist in by ironically & lazily sampling 80's hits and slowing them down so as to they're doing something new and original, when in reality they're just contributing more and more detritus to basically what's an inside joke. Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 17:11:59 -0800 Subject: Re: What is Vaporwave? From: alecwild6@gmail.com To: ben@diamondste.in CC: kit.mauldin@yahoo.com; idm@hyperreal.org Yeah, Vaporwave is kind of weird in the sense that it was born out of an aesthetic and then evolved so much beyond it while keeping the aesthetic evolving. I've seen some really interesting discussion on what Vaporwave becoming so ambient-focused in releases like 2814 means and where we draw the lin on what is and isn't vaporwave. The Vaporwave documentary is great but was unfortunately released before "I'll try living like this", which I and many others consider the best vaporwave release of 2015. If you haven't listened to it, give the track "Somebody Home" a listen. I truly believe that the overstimulation and grooves of that song are going to become a theme of vaporwave at some point soon. I think the vaporwave rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than a lot of people think, but it's a very weird genre to break into. On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> wrote: I don't mind academic. From what I can tell, Vaporwave seems to have a lot of commentary attached to it, so I'm not surprised there's a lot of academic-level discussion around it. On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Christopher Mauldin <kit.mauldin@yahoo.com> wrote: Adam Harper who writes occasionally for the Wire and Dummy Mag is kind of the vaporwave ur-guru. Obsessive and academic. His blog, in case you have a few millennia of free time to burn: http://rougesfoam.blogspot.com/ From: Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> To: Idm List <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2016 4:50 PM Subject: What is Vaporwave? In respect to the "Best of 2015" thread, I figured it may be worth bringing the Vaporwave topic to another email. I'm fairly new to this list, so I've been hesitant to ask about Vaporwave, but it seems like something people have thoughts on. Here's a video I found in my own research that seems to do a pretty good job describing the history of (which is actually very interesting). https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpP0mXOlWM But again, it's kind of academic. Anyone here into Vaporwave and can explain a bit of why/what? It seems that people are generally very opinionated on it in the more well-respected music circles. Plus, it seems to have a very devout following, considering the obscurity of it. Seemingly like IDM in its infancy. This is the song that people often reference most closely with the genre. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE Thoughts? Opinions? Bueller? -- From the desk of Alec Wild -- From the desk of Alec Wild

There's a sort of wiki here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Vaporwave/ and some listening suggestions here: https://i.imgur.com/6001VSi.jpg Plus a long article by Adam Harper: http://www.dummymag.com/features/adam-harper-vaporwave It's really easy to make fun of this genre, but personally I think that some of the music is really nice: Blank Banshee, Vektroid, Internet Club etc. I also think that of some early IDM have a (proto)vaporwave-aesthetic. Especially Boards of Canada comes into mind thinking of that. On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 8:14 AM, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 91 lines What is a Hipster?

> What is a Hipster? > On Jan 5, 2016 8:30 PM, "c. jones" <coda27@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Vaporwave is hipster kids from the late 90's/ early 00's reminiscing over >> a time they didn't exist in by ironically & lazily sampling 80's hits and >> slowing them down so as to they're doing something new and original, when >> in reality they're just contributing more and more detritus to basically >> what's an inside joke. >> >> ------------------------------ >> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 17:11:59 -0800 >> Subject: Re: What is Vaporwave? >> From: alecwild6@gmail.com >> To: ben@diamondste.in >> CC: kit.mauldin@yahoo.com; idm@hyperreal.org >> >> Yeah, Vaporwave is kind of weird in the sense that it was born out of an >> aesthetic and then evolved so much beyond it while keeping the aesthetic >> evolving. I've seen some really interesting discussion on what Vaporwave >> becoming so ambient-focused in releases like 2814 means and where we draw >> the lin on what is and isn't vaporwave. >> >> The Vaporwave documentary is great but was unfortunately released before >> "I'll try living like this", which I and many others consider the best >> vaporwave release of 2015. If you haven't listened to it, give the track >> "Somebody Home" a listen. I truly believe that the overstimulation and >> grooves of that song are going to become a theme of vaporwave at some point >> soon. >> >> I think the vaporwave rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than a lot of people >> think, but it's a very weird genre to break into. >> >> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> >> wrote: >> >> I don't mind academic. From what I can tell, Vaporwave seems to have a >> lot of commentary attached to it, so I'm not surprised there's a lot of >> academic-level discussion around it. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Christopher Mauldin < >> kit.mauldin@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> Adam Harper who writes occasionally for the Wire and Dummy Mag is kind of >> the vaporwave ur-guru. Obsessive and academic. His blog, in case you have a >> few millennia of free time to burn: http://rougesfoam.blogspot.com/ >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> >> *To:* Idm List <idm@hyperreal.org> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 5, 2016 4:50 PM >> *Subject:* What is Vaporwave? >> >> In respect to the "Best of 2015" thread, I figured it may be worth >> bringing the Vaporwave topic to another email. >> >> I'm fairly new to this list, so I've been hesitant to ask about >> Vaporwave, but it seems like something people have thoughts on. >> >> Here's a video I found in my own research that seems to do a pretty good >> job describing the history of (which is actually very interesting). >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpP0mXOlWM >> >> But again, it's kind of academic. Anyone here into Vaporwave and can >> explain a bit of why/what? It seems that people are generally very >> opinionated on it in the more well-respected music circles. Plus, it seems >> to have a very devout following, considering the obscurity of it. Seemingly >> like IDM in its infancy. >> >> This is the song that people often reference most closely with the genre. >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE >> >> Thoughts? Opinions? Bueller? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> From the desk of Alec Wild >> >

-- Jørgen Skjulstad https://soundcloud.com/sissyfus/sets/limitid-edition www.metronomiconaudio.net www.soundcloud.com/sissyfus

I honestly have only heard very little vaporwave other than Lopatin's output. So here is what I think about Lopatin's output and if you call it all vaporwave then maybe this also what I think vaporwave is. Music is a culture vampire sucking everything in sight and is constantly recycled, broken down and put back together again in different ways. Vaporwave to me seems to be that process, but stripped down to a level where it induces nostalgia because you can notice all those elements that are familiar without too much analysis. It seems like it's taking the piss because really, how can you not take the piss out of what we thought was cool in the decades preceding the one we're in? It is a couple of decades (maybe a few) of our past, chewed up and spat back out at us. Music, culture, space and time; it's all transient with random peaks and troughs and vaporwave explores those peaks and troughs in our western consumerist culture. It cycles through our culture timeline and every now and then it briefly holds up a magnifying glass to random parts exposing our past treasures and in turn our throw away nature. Mem On 6 January 2016 at 08:48, Jørgen Sissyfus Skjulstad <sissyfus@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 124 lines There's a sort of wiki here:

> There's a sort of wiki here: > > https://www.reddit.com/r/Vaporwave/ > > and some listening suggestions here: > > https://i.imgur.com/6001VSi.jpg > > Plus a long article by Adam Harper: > > http://www.dummymag.com/features/adam-harper-vaporwave > > It's really easy to make fun of this genre, but personally I think that > some of the music is really nice: Blank Banshee, Vektroid, Internet Club > etc. I also think that of some early IDM have a (proto)vaporwave-aesthetic. > Especially Boards of Canada comes into mind thinking of that. > > > > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 8:14 AM, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: > >> What is a Hipster? >> On Jan 5, 2016 8:30 PM, "c. jones" <coda27@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> Vaporwave is hipster kids from the late 90's/ early 00's reminiscing >>> over a time they didn't exist in by ironically & lazily sampling 80's hits >>> and slowing them down so as to they're doing something new and original, >>> when in reality they're just contributing more and more detritus to >>> basically what's an inside joke. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 17:11:59 -0800 >>> Subject: Re: What is Vaporwave? >>> From: alecwild6@gmail.com >>> To: ben@diamondste.in >>> CC: kit.mauldin@yahoo.com; idm@hyperreal.org >>> >>> Yeah, Vaporwave is kind of weird in the sense that it was born out of an >>> aesthetic and then evolved so much beyond it while keeping the aesthetic >>> evolving. I've seen some really interesting discussion on what Vaporwave >>> becoming so ambient-focused in releases like 2814 means and where we draw >>> the lin on what is and isn't vaporwave. >>> >>> The Vaporwave documentary is great but was unfortunately released before >>> "I'll try living like this", which I and many others consider the best >>> vaporwave release of 2015. If you haven't listened to it, give the track >>> "Somebody Home" a listen. I truly believe that the overstimulation and >>> grooves of that song are going to become a theme of vaporwave at some point >>> soon. >>> >>> I think the vaporwave rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than a lot of people >>> think, but it's a very weird genre to break into. >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I don't mind academic. From what I can tell, Vaporwave seems to have a >>> lot of commentary attached to it, so I'm not surprised there's a lot of >>> academic-level discussion around it. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Christopher Mauldin < >>> kit.mauldin@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>> Adam Harper who writes occasionally for the Wire and Dummy Mag is kind >>> of the vaporwave ur-guru. Obsessive and academic. His blog, in case you >>> have a few millennia of free time to burn: >>> http://rougesfoam.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> >>> *To:* Idm List <idm@hyperreal.org> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 5, 2016 4:50 PM >>> *Subject:* What is Vaporwave? >>> >>> In respect to the "Best of 2015" thread, I figured it may be worth >>> bringing the Vaporwave topic to another email. >>> >>> I'm fairly new to this list, so I've been hesitant to ask about >>> Vaporwave, but it seems like something people have thoughts on. >>> >>> Here's a video I found in my own research that seems to do a pretty good >>> job describing the history of (which is actually very interesting). >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpP0mXOlWM >>> >>> But again, it's kind of academic. Anyone here into Vaporwave and can >>> explain a bit of why/what? It seems that people are generally very >>> opinionated on it in the more well-respected music circles. Plus, it seems >>> to have a very devout following, considering the obscurity of it. Seemingly >>> like IDM in its infancy. >>> >>> This is the song that people often reference most closely with the >>> genre. >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE >>> >>> Thoughts? Opinions? Bueller? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> From the desk of Alec Wild >>> >> > > > -- > Jørgen Skjulstad > > https://soundcloud.com/sissyfus/sets/limitid-edition > www.metronomiconaudio.net > www.soundcloud.com/sissyfus >

someone who drinks too much robotussin and passes out listening to hall & oates in the other room Clint Anderson Systems Engineer "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 1:14 AM, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 91 lines What is a Hipster?

> What is a Hipster? > On Jan 5, 2016 8:30 PM, "c. jones" <coda27@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> >> Vaporwave is hipster kids from the late 90's/ early 00's reminiscing over >> a time they didn't exist in by ironically & lazily sampling 80's hits and >> slowing them down so as to they're doing something new and original, when >> in reality they're just contributing more and more detritus to basically >> what's an inside joke. >> >> ------------------------------ >> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 17:11:59 -0800 >> Subject: Re: What is Vaporwave? >> From: alecwild6@gmail.com >> To: ben@diamondste.in >> CC: kit.mauldin@yahoo.com; idm@hyperreal.org >> >> Yeah, Vaporwave is kind of weird in the sense that it was born out of an >> aesthetic and then evolved so much beyond it while keeping the aesthetic >> evolving. I've seen some really interesting discussion on what Vaporwave >> becoming so ambient-focused in releases like 2814 means and where we draw >> the lin on what is and isn't vaporwave. >> >> The Vaporwave documentary is great but was unfortunately released before >> "I'll try living like this", which I and many others consider the best >> vaporwave release of 2015. If you haven't listened to it, give the track >> "Somebody Home" a listen. I truly believe that the overstimulation and >> grooves of that song are going to become a theme of vaporwave at some point >> soon. >> >> I think the vaporwave rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than a lot of people >> think, but it's a very weird genre to break into. >> >> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> >> wrote: >> >> I don't mind academic. From what I can tell, Vaporwave seems to have a >> lot of commentary attached to it, so I'm not surprised there's a lot of >> academic-level discussion around it. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Christopher Mauldin < >> kit.mauldin@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >> Adam Harper who writes occasionally for the Wire and Dummy Mag is kind of >> the vaporwave ur-guru. Obsessive and academic. His blog, in case you have a >> few millennia of free time to burn: http://rougesfoam.blogspot.com/ >> >> >> >> ------------------------------ >> *From:* Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> >> *To:* Idm List <idm@hyperreal.org> >> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 5, 2016 4:50 PM >> *Subject:* What is Vaporwave? >> >> In respect to the "Best of 2015" thread, I figured it may be worth >> bringing the Vaporwave topic to another email. >> >> I'm fairly new to this list, so I've been hesitant to ask about >> Vaporwave, but it seems like something people have thoughts on. >> >> Here's a video I found in my own research that seems to do a pretty good >> job describing the history of (which is actually very interesting). >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpP0mXOlWM >> >> But again, it's kind of academic. Anyone here into Vaporwave and can >> explain a bit of why/what? It seems that people are generally very >> opinionated on it in the more well-respected music circles. Plus, it seems >> to have a very devout following, considering the obscurity of it. Seemingly >> like IDM in its infancy. >> >> This is the song that people often reference most closely with the genre. >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE >> >> Thoughts? Opinions? Bueller? >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> -- >> From the desk of Alec Wild >> >

Ten points to Clint. thanks, ben majoy (mobile)

quoted 70 lines On Jan 6, 2016, at 7:42 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Jan 6, 2016, at 7:42 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > > someone who drinks too much robotussin and passes out listening to hall & oates in the other room > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > >> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 1:14 AM, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: >> What is a Hipster? >> >>> On Jan 5, 2016 8:30 PM, "c. jones" <coda27@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Vaporwave is hipster kids from the late 90's/ early 00's reminiscing over a time they didn't exist in by ironically & lazily sampling 80's hits and slowing them down so as to they're doing something new and original, when in reality they're just contributing more and more detritus to basically what's an inside joke. >>> >>> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 17:11:59 -0800 >>> Subject: Re: What is Vaporwave? >>> From: alecwild6@gmail.com >>> To: ben@diamondste.in >>> CC: kit.mauldin@yahoo.com; idm@hyperreal.org >>> >>> Yeah, Vaporwave is kind of weird in the sense that it was born out of an aesthetic and then evolved so much beyond it while keeping the aesthetic evolving. I've seen some really interesting discussion on what Vaporwave becoming so ambient-focused in releases like 2814 means and where we draw the lin on what is and isn't vaporwave. >>> >>> The Vaporwave documentary is great but was unfortunately released before "I'll try living like this", which I and many others consider the best vaporwave release of 2015. If you haven't listened to it, give the track "Somebody Home" a listen. I truly believe that the overstimulation and grooves of that song are going to become a theme of vaporwave at some point soon. >>> >>> I think the vaporwave rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than a lot of people think, but it's a very weird genre to break into. >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> wrote: >>> I don't mind academic. From what I can tell, Vaporwave seems to have a lot of commentary attached to it, so I'm not surprised there's a lot of academic-level discussion around it. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Christopher Mauldin <kit.mauldin@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> Adam Harper who writes occasionally for the Wire and Dummy Mag is kind of the vaporwave ur-guru. Obsessive and academic. His blog, in case you have a few millennia of free time to burn: http://rougesfoam.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> From: Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> >>> To: Idm List <idm@hyperreal.org> >>> Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2016 4:50 PM >>> Subject: What is Vaporwave? >>> >>> In respect to the "Best of 2015" thread, I figured it may be worth bringing the Vaporwave topic to another email. >>> >>> I'm fairly new to this list, so I've been hesitant to ask about Vaporwave, but it seems like something people have thoughts on. >>> >>> Here's a video I found in my own research that seems to do a pretty good job describing the history of (which is actually very interesting). >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpP0mXOlWM >>> >>> But again, it's kind of academic. Anyone here into Vaporwave and can explain a bit of why/what? It seems that people are generally very opinionated on it in the more well-respected music circles. Plus, it seems to have a very devout following, considering the obscurity of it. Seemingly like IDM in its infancy. >>> >>> This is the song that people often reference most closely with the genre. >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE >>> >>> Thoughts? Opinions? Bueller? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> From the desk of Alec Wild >

for the record i enjoy the yacht rock stylings of daryl hall and john oates Clint Anderson Systems Engineer "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:47 AM, <ben@diamondste.in> wrote:

quoted 113 lines Ten points to Clint.

> Ten points to Clint. > > thanks, > ben majoy (mobile) > > > On Jan 6, 2016, at 7:42 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > > someone who drinks too much robotussin and passes out listening to hall & > oates in the other room > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 1:14 AM, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: > >> What is a Hipster? >> On Jan 5, 2016 8:30 PM, "c. jones" <coda27@hotmail.com> wrote: >> >>> >>> Vaporwave is hipster kids from the late 90's/ early 00's reminiscing >>> over a time they didn't exist in by ironically & lazily sampling 80's hits >>> and slowing them down so as to they're doing something new and original, >>> when in reality they're just contributing more and more detritus to >>> basically what's an inside joke. >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 17:11:59 -0800 >>> Subject: Re: What is Vaporwave? >>> From: alecwild6@gmail.com >>> To: ben@diamondste.in >>> CC: kit.mauldin@yahoo.com; idm@hyperreal.org >>> >>> Yeah, Vaporwave is kind of weird in the sense that it was born out of an >>> aesthetic and then evolved so much beyond it while keeping the aesthetic >>> evolving. I've seen some really interesting discussion on what Vaporwave >>> becoming so ambient-focused in releases like 2814 means and where we draw >>> the lin on what is and isn't vaporwave. >>> >>> The Vaporwave documentary is great but was unfortunately released before >>> "I'll try living like this", which I and many others consider the best >>> vaporwave release of 2015. If you haven't listened to it, give the track >>> "Somebody Home" a listen. I truly believe that the overstimulation and >>> grooves of that song are going to become a theme of vaporwave at some point >>> soon. >>> >>> I think the vaporwave rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than a lot of people >>> think, but it's a very weird genre to break into. >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> >>> wrote: >>> >>> I don't mind academic. From what I can tell, Vaporwave seems to have a >>> lot of commentary attached to it, so I'm not surprised there's a lot of >>> academic-level discussion around it. >>> >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Christopher Mauldin < >>> kit.mauldin@yahoo.com> wrote: >>> >>> Adam Harper who writes occasionally for the Wire and Dummy Mag is kind >>> of the vaporwave ur-guru. Obsessive and academic. His blog, in case you >>> have a few millennia of free time to burn: >>> http://rougesfoam.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> >>> *To:* Idm List <idm@hyperreal.org> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 5, 2016 4:50 PM >>> *Subject:* What is Vaporwave? >>> >>> In respect to the "Best of 2015" thread, I figured it may be worth >>> bringing the Vaporwave topic to another email. >>> >>> I'm fairly new to this list, so I've been hesitant to ask about >>> Vaporwave, but it seems like something people have thoughts on. >>> >>> Here's a video I found in my own research that seems to do a pretty good >>> job describing the history of (which is actually very interesting). >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpP0mXOlWM >>> >>> But again, it's kind of academic. Anyone here into Vaporwave and can >>> explain a bit of why/what? It seems that people are generally very >>> opinionated on it in the more well-respected music circles. Plus, it seems >>> to have a very devout following, considering the obscurity of it. Seemingly >>> like IDM in its infancy. >>> >>> This is the song that people often reference most closely with the >>> genre. >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE >>> >>> Thoughts? Opinions? Bueller? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> From the desk of Alec Wild >>> >> >

speaking about ramona (Macintosh Plus), i love her other project vektroid: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNP_QiOAHhQ On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 124 lines for the record i enjoy the yacht rock stylings of daryl hall and john oates

> for the record i enjoy the yacht rock stylings of daryl hall and john oates > > > Clint Anderson > Systems Engineer > "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings > > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:47 AM, <ben@diamondste.in> wrote: > >> Ten points to Clint. >> >> thanks, >> ben majoy (mobile) >> >> >> On Jan 6, 2016, at 7:42 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> someone who drinks too much robotussin and passes out listening to hall & >> oates in the other room >> >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 1:14 AM, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> What is a Hipster? >>> On Jan 5, 2016 8:30 PM, "c. jones" <coda27@hotmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> >>>> Vaporwave is hipster kids from the late 90's/ early 00's reminiscing >>>> over a time they didn't exist in by ironically & lazily sampling 80's hits >>>> and slowing them down so as to they're doing something new and original, >>>> when in reality they're just contributing more and more detritus to >>>> basically what's an inside joke. >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 17:11:59 -0800 >>>> Subject: Re: What is Vaporwave? >>>> From: alecwild6@gmail.com >>>> To: ben@diamondste.in >>>> CC: kit.mauldin@yahoo.com; idm@hyperreal.org >>>> >>>> Yeah, Vaporwave is kind of weird in the sense that it was born out of >>>> an aesthetic and then evolved so much beyond it while keeping the aesthetic >>>> evolving. I've seen some really interesting discussion on what Vaporwave >>>> becoming so ambient-focused in releases like 2814 means and where we draw >>>> the lin on what is and isn't vaporwave. >>>> >>>> The Vaporwave documentary is great but was unfortunately released >>>> before "I'll try living like this", which I and many others consider the >>>> best vaporwave release of 2015. If you haven't listened to it, give the >>>> track "Somebody Home" a listen. I truly believe that the overstimulation >>>> and grooves of that song are going to become a theme of vaporwave at some >>>> point soon. >>>> >>>> I think the vaporwave rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than a lot of >>>> people think, but it's a very weird genre to break into. >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> I don't mind academic. From what I can tell, Vaporwave seems to have a >>>> lot of commentary attached to it, so I'm not surprised there's a lot of >>>> academic-level discussion around it. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Christopher Mauldin < >>>> kit.mauldin@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> Adam Harper who writes occasionally for the Wire and Dummy Mag is kind >>>> of the vaporwave ur-guru. Obsessive and academic. His blog, in case you >>>> have a few millennia of free time to burn: >>>> http://rougesfoam.blogspot.com/ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> ------------------------------ >>>> *From:* Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> >>>> *To:* Idm List <idm@hyperreal.org> >>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 5, 2016 4:50 PM >>>> *Subject:* What is Vaporwave? >>>> >>>> In respect to the "Best of 2015" thread, I figured it may be worth >>>> bringing the Vaporwave topic to another email. >>>> >>>> I'm fairly new to this list, so I've been hesitant to ask about >>>> Vaporwave, but it seems like something people have thoughts on. >>>> >>>> Here's a video I found in my own research that seems to do a pretty >>>> good job describing the history of (which is actually very interesting). >>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpP0mXOlWM >>>> >>>> But again, it's kind of academic. Anyone here into Vaporwave and can >>>> explain a bit of why/what? It seems that people are generally very >>>> opinionated on it in the more well-respected music circles. Plus, it seems >>>> to have a very devout following, considering the obscurity of it. Seemingly >>>> like IDM in its infancy. >>>> >>>> This is the song that people often reference most closely with the >>>> genre. >>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE >>>> >>>> Thoughts? Opinions? Bueller? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> From the desk of Alec Wild >>>> >>> >> >

-- Bruno Gola <brunogola@gmail.com> http://bgo.la/

an big answer after years and year of explorationz among clicks, glitchs, noise, fields... but i really dislike vapor-wave and acceletionasionism.. 2016-01-06 17:06 GMT+01:00 Bruno Gola <brunogola@gmail.com>:

quoted 141 lines speaking about ramona (Macintosh Plus), i love her other project vektroid:

> speaking about ramona (Macintosh Plus), i love her other project vektroid: > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNP_QiOAHhQ > > > > > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: > >> for the record i enjoy the yacht rock stylings of daryl hall and john >> oates >> >> >> Clint Anderson >> Systems Engineer >> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:47 AM, <ben@diamondste.in> wrote: >> >>> Ten points to Clint. >>> >>> thanks, >>> ben majoy (mobile) >>> >>> >>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 7:42 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> someone who drinks too much robotussin and passes out listening to hall >>> & oates in the other room >>> >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 1:14 AM, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> What is a Hipster? >>>> On Jan 5, 2016 8:30 PM, "c. jones" <coda27@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> Vaporwave is hipster kids from the late 90's/ early 00's reminiscing >>>>> over a time they didn't exist in by ironically & lazily sampling 80's hits >>>>> and slowing them down so as to they're doing something new and original, >>>>> when in reality they're just contributing more and more detritus to >>>>> basically what's an inside joke. >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 17:11:59 -0800 >>>>> Subject: Re: What is Vaporwave? >>>>> From: alecwild6@gmail.com >>>>> To: ben@diamondste.in >>>>> CC: kit.mauldin@yahoo.com; idm@hyperreal.org >>>>> >>>>> Yeah, Vaporwave is kind of weird in the sense that it was born out of >>>>> an aesthetic and then evolved so much beyond it while keeping the aesthetic >>>>> evolving. I've seen some really interesting discussion on what Vaporwave >>>>> becoming so ambient-focused in releases like 2814 means and where we draw >>>>> the lin on what is and isn't vaporwave. >>>>> >>>>> The Vaporwave documentary is great but was unfortunately released >>>>> before "I'll try living like this", which I and many others consider the >>>>> best vaporwave release of 2015. If you haven't listened to it, give the >>>>> track "Somebody Home" a listen. I truly believe that the overstimulation >>>>> and grooves of that song are going to become a theme of vaporwave at some >>>>> point soon. >>>>> >>>>> I think the vaporwave rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than a lot of >>>>> people think, but it's a very weird genre to break into. >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> I don't mind academic. From what I can tell, Vaporwave seems to have a >>>>> lot of commentary attached to it, so I'm not surprised there's a lot of >>>>> academic-level discussion around it. >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Christopher Mauldin < >>>>> kit.mauldin@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Adam Harper who writes occasionally for the Wire and Dummy Mag is kind >>>>> of the vaporwave ur-guru. Obsessive and academic. His blog, in case you >>>>> have a few millennia of free time to burn: >>>>> http://rougesfoam.blogspot.com/ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>> *From:* Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> >>>>> *To:* Idm List <idm@hyperreal.org> >>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 5, 2016 4:50 PM >>>>> *Subject:* What is Vaporwave? >>>>> >>>>> In respect to the "Best of 2015" thread, I figured it may be worth >>>>> bringing the Vaporwave topic to another email. >>>>> >>>>> I'm fairly new to this list, so I've been hesitant to ask about >>>>> Vaporwave, but it seems like something people have thoughts on. >>>>> >>>>> Here's a video I found in my own research that seems to do a pretty >>>>> good job describing the history of (which is actually very interesting). >>>>> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpP0mXOlWM >>>>> >>>>> But again, it's kind of academic. Anyone here into Vaporwave and can >>>>> explain a bit of why/what? It seems that people are generally very >>>>> opinionated on it in the more well-respected music circles. Plus, it seems >>>>> to have a very devout following, considering the obscurity of it. Seemingly >>>>> like IDM in its infancy. >>>>> >>>>> This is the song that people often reference most closely with the >>>>> genre. >>>>> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE >>>>> >>>>> Thoughts? Opinions? Bueller? >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> From the desk of Alec Wild >>>>> >>>> >>> >> > > > -- > Bruno Gola <brunogola@gmail.com> > http://bgo.la/ >

Although i had never heard about this literally nebulous genre before this thread popped in and after reading your comments, it turns out like i've been listening to vaporwave in my late 80s without even knowing it (maybe you have also) : *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk30a0qsVIk <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk30a0qsVIk>* On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 5:41 PM, luca tommy tommasini <scaleni@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 151 lines an big answer after years and year

> an big answer after years and year > of explorationz among clicks, glitchs, noise, fields... > > but i really dislike vapor-wave and acceletionasionism.. > > 2016-01-06 17:06 GMT+01:00 Bruno Gola <brunogola@gmail.com>: > >> speaking about ramona (Macintosh Plus), i love her other project vektroid: >> >> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNP_QiOAHhQ >> >> >> >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> for the record i enjoy the yacht rock stylings of daryl hall and john >>> oates >>> >>> >>> Clint Anderson >>> Systems Engineer >>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:47 AM, <ben@diamondste.in> wrote: >>> >>>> Ten points to Clint. >>>> >>>> thanks, >>>> ben majoy (mobile) >>>> >>>> >>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 7:42 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>> someone who drinks too much robotussin and passes out listening to hall >>>> & oates in the other room >>>> >>>> >>>> Clint Anderson >>>> Systems Engineer >>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 1:14 AM, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> What is a Hipster? >>>>> On Jan 5, 2016 8:30 PM, "c. jones" <coda27@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Vaporwave is hipster kids from the late 90's/ early 00's reminiscing >>>>>> over a time they didn't exist in by ironically & lazily sampling 80's hits >>>>>> and slowing them down so as to they're doing something new and original, >>>>>> when in reality they're just contributing more and more detritus to >>>>>> basically what's an inside joke. >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 17:11:59 -0800 >>>>>> Subject: Re: What is Vaporwave? >>>>>> From: alecwild6@gmail.com >>>>>> To: ben@diamondste.in >>>>>> CC: kit.mauldin@yahoo.com; idm@hyperreal.org >>>>>> >>>>>> Yeah, Vaporwave is kind of weird in the sense that it was born out of >>>>>> an aesthetic and then evolved so much beyond it while keeping the aesthetic >>>>>> evolving. I've seen some really interesting discussion on what Vaporwave >>>>>> becoming so ambient-focused in releases like 2814 means and where we draw >>>>>> the lin on what is and isn't vaporwave. >>>>>> >>>>>> The Vaporwave documentary is great but was unfortunately released >>>>>> before "I'll try living like this", which I and many others consider the >>>>>> best vaporwave release of 2015. If you haven't listened to it, give the >>>>>> track "Somebody Home" a listen. I truly believe that the overstimulation >>>>>> and grooves of that song are going to become a theme of vaporwave at some >>>>>> point soon. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think the vaporwave rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than a lot of >>>>>> people think, but it's a very weird genre to break into. >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I don't mind academic. From what I can tell, Vaporwave seems to have >>>>>> a lot of commentary attached to it, so I'm not surprised there's a lot of >>>>>> academic-level discussion around it. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Christopher Mauldin < >>>>>> kit.mauldin@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Adam Harper who writes occasionally for the Wire and Dummy Mag is >>>>>> kind of the vaporwave ur-guru. Obsessive and academic. His blog, in case >>>>>> you have a few millennia of free time to burn: >>>>>> http://rougesfoam.blogspot.com/ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>> *From:* Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> >>>>>> *To:* Idm List <idm@hyperreal.org> >>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 5, 2016 4:50 PM >>>>>> *Subject:* What is Vaporwave? >>>>>> >>>>>> In respect to the "Best of 2015" thread, I figured it may be worth >>>>>> bringing the Vaporwave topic to another email. >>>>>> >>>>>> I'm fairly new to this list, so I've been hesitant to ask about >>>>>> Vaporwave, but it seems like something people have thoughts on. >>>>>> >>>>>> Here's a video I found in my own research that seems to do a pretty >>>>>> good job describing the history of (which is actually very interesting). >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpP0mXOlWM >>>>>> >>>>>> But again, it's kind of academic. Anyone here into Vaporwave and can >>>>>> explain a bit of why/what? It seems that people are generally very >>>>>> opinionated on it in the more well-respected music circles. Plus, it seems >>>>>> to have a very devout following, considering the obscurity of it. Seemingly >>>>>> like IDM in its infancy. >>>>>> >>>>>> This is the song that people often reference most closely with the >>>>>> genre. >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE >>>>>> >>>>>> Thoughts? Opinions? Bueller? >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> From the desk of Alec Wild >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> Bruno Gola <brunogola@gmail.com> >> http://bgo.la/ >> > >

Haha, yeah. I own a copy of Flaunt It. Its packed away somewhere. I always get a kick out thumbing through the CD booklet when I come across it. Class!! On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 165 lines Although i had never heard about this literally nebulous genre before this

> Although i had never heard about this literally nebulous genre before this > thread popped in and after reading your comments, it turns out like i've > been listening to vaporwave in my late 80s without even knowing it (maybe > you have also) : > *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk30a0qsVIk > <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk30a0qsVIk>* > > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 5:41 PM, luca tommy tommasini <scaleni@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> an big answer after years and year >> of explorationz among clicks, glitchs, noise, fields... >> >> but i really dislike vapor-wave and acceletionasionism.. >> >> 2016-01-06 17:06 GMT+01:00 Bruno Gola <brunogola@gmail.com>: >> >>> speaking about ramona (Macintosh Plus), i love her other project >>> vektroid: >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNP_QiOAHhQ >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> for the record i enjoy the yacht rock stylings of daryl hall and john >>>> oates >>>> >>>> >>>> Clint Anderson >>>> Systems Engineer >>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:47 AM, <ben@diamondste.in> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Ten points to Clint. >>>>> >>>>> thanks, >>>>> ben majoy (mobile) >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 7:42 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> someone who drinks too much robotussin and passes out listening to >>>>> hall & oates in the other room >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 1:14 AM, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> What is a Hipster? >>>>>> On Jan 5, 2016 8:30 PM, "c. jones" <coda27@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Vaporwave is hipster kids from the late 90's/ early 00's reminiscing >>>>>>> over a time they didn't exist in by ironically & lazily sampling 80's hits >>>>>>> and slowing them down so as to they're doing something new and original, >>>>>>> when in reality they're just contributing more and more detritus to >>>>>>> basically what's an inside joke. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 17:11:59 -0800 >>>>>>> Subject: Re: What is Vaporwave? >>>>>>> From: alecwild6@gmail.com >>>>>>> To: ben@diamondste.in >>>>>>> CC: kit.mauldin@yahoo.com; idm@hyperreal.org >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Yeah, Vaporwave is kind of weird in the sense that it was born out >>>>>>> of an aesthetic and then evolved so much beyond it while keeping the >>>>>>> aesthetic evolving. I've seen some really interesting discussion on what >>>>>>> Vaporwave becoming so ambient-focused in releases like 2814 means and where >>>>>>> we draw the lin on what is and isn't vaporwave. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The Vaporwave documentary is great but was unfortunately released >>>>>>> before "I'll try living like this", which I and many others consider the >>>>>>> best vaporwave release of 2015. If you haven't listened to it, give the >>>>>>> track "Somebody Home" a listen. I truly believe that the overstimulation >>>>>>> and grooves of that song are going to become a theme of vaporwave at some >>>>>>> point soon. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I think the vaporwave rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than a lot of >>>>>>> people think, but it's a very weird genre to break into. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I don't mind academic. From what I can tell, Vaporwave seems to have >>>>>>> a lot of commentary attached to it, so I'm not surprised there's a lot of >>>>>>> academic-level discussion around it. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Christopher Mauldin < >>>>>>> kit.mauldin@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Adam Harper who writes occasionally for the Wire and Dummy Mag is >>>>>>> kind of the vaporwave ur-guru. Obsessive and academic. His blog, in case >>>>>>> you have a few millennia of free time to burn: >>>>>>> http://rougesfoam.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>> *From:* Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> >>>>>>> *To:* Idm List <idm@hyperreal.org> >>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 5, 2016 4:50 PM >>>>>>> *Subject:* What is Vaporwave? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In respect to the "Best of 2015" thread, I figured it may be worth >>>>>>> bringing the Vaporwave topic to another email. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I'm fairly new to this list, so I've been hesitant to ask about >>>>>>> Vaporwave, but it seems like something people have thoughts on. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Here's a video I found in my own research that seems to do a pretty >>>>>>> good job describing the history of (which is actually very interesting). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpP0mXOlWM >>>>>>> >>>>>>> But again, it's kind of academic. Anyone here into Vaporwave and can >>>>>>> explain a bit of why/what? It seems that people are generally very >>>>>>> opinionated on it in the more well-respected music circles. Plus, it seems >>>>>>> to have a very devout following, considering the obscurity of it. Seemingly >>>>>>> like IDM in its infancy. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> This is the song that people often reference most closely with the >>>>>>> genre. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thoughts? Opinions? Bueller? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> From the desk of Alec Wild >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> Bruno Gola <brunogola@gmail.com> >>> http://bgo.la/ >>> >> >> > >

Yeah, the sleeve design was terrific and regarding the audio, i've always had the feeling that this album prefigured the *Rhythm King/Coldcut*-like samples-(over)loaded «house music» that came out soon after and which i instantly got into. It really sounds like some transitional album to me. On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 4:03 AM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 171 lines Haha, yeah. I own a copy of Flaunt It. Its packed away somewhere. I always

> Haha, yeah. I own a copy of Flaunt It. Its packed away somewhere. I always > get a kick out thumbing through the CD booklet when I come across it. > Class!! > > On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Although i had never heard about this literally nebulous genre before >> this thread popped in and after reading your comments, it turns out like >> i've been listening to vaporwave in my late 80s without even knowing it >> (maybe you have also) : >> *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk30a0qsVIk >> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk30a0qsVIk>* >> >> >> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 5:41 PM, luca tommy tommasini <scaleni@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> an big answer after years and year >>> of explorationz among clicks, glitchs, noise, fields... >>> >>> but i really dislike vapor-wave and acceletionasionism.. >>> >>> 2016-01-06 17:06 GMT+01:00 Bruno Gola <brunogola@gmail.com>: >>> >>>> speaking about ramona (Macintosh Plus), i love her other project >>>> vektroid: >>>> >>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNP_QiOAHhQ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>>> for the record i enjoy the yacht rock stylings of daryl hall and john >>>>> oates >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:47 AM, <ben@diamondste.in> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Ten points to Clint. >>>>>> >>>>>> thanks, >>>>>> ben majoy (mobile) >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 7:42 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> someone who drinks too much robotussin and passes out listening to >>>>>> hall & oates in the other room >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 1:14 AM, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> What is a Hipster? >>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2016 8:30 PM, "c. jones" <coda27@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Vaporwave is hipster kids from the late 90's/ early 00's >>>>>>>> reminiscing over a time they didn't exist in by ironically & lazily >>>>>>>> sampling 80's hits and slowing them down so as to they're doing something >>>>>>>> new and original, when in reality they're just contributing more and more >>>>>>>> detritus to basically what's an inside joke. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 17:11:59 -0800 >>>>>>>> Subject: Re: What is Vaporwave? >>>>>>>> From: alecwild6@gmail.com >>>>>>>> To: ben@diamondste.in >>>>>>>> CC: kit.mauldin@yahoo.com; idm@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yeah, Vaporwave is kind of weird in the sense that it was born out >>>>>>>> of an aesthetic and then evolved so much beyond it while keeping the >>>>>>>> aesthetic evolving. I've seen some really interesting discussion on what >>>>>>>> Vaporwave becoming so ambient-focused in releases like 2814 means and where >>>>>>>> we draw the lin on what is and isn't vaporwave. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The Vaporwave documentary is great but was unfortunately released >>>>>>>> before "I'll try living like this", which I and many others consider the >>>>>>>> best vaporwave release of 2015. If you haven't listened to it, give the >>>>>>>> track "Somebody Home" a listen. I truly believe that the overstimulation >>>>>>>> and grooves of that song are going to become a theme of vaporwave at some >>>>>>>> point soon. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I think the vaporwave rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than a lot of >>>>>>>> people think, but it's a very weird genre to break into. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in >>>>>>>> > wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I don't mind academic. From what I can tell, Vaporwave seems to >>>>>>>> have a lot of commentary attached to it, so I'm not surprised there's a lot >>>>>>>> of academic-level discussion around it. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Christopher Mauldin < >>>>>>>> kit.mauldin@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Adam Harper who writes occasionally for the Wire and Dummy Mag is >>>>>>>> kind of the vaporwave ur-guru. Obsessive and academic. His blog, in case >>>>>>>> you have a few millennia of free time to burn: >>>>>>>> http://rougesfoam.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>> *From:* Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> >>>>>>>> *To:* Idm List <idm@hyperreal.org> >>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 5, 2016 4:50 PM >>>>>>>> *Subject:* What is Vaporwave? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> In respect to the "Best of 2015" thread, I figured it may be worth >>>>>>>> bringing the Vaporwave topic to another email. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I'm fairly new to this list, so I've been hesitant to ask about >>>>>>>> Vaporwave, but it seems like something people have thoughts on. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Here's a video I found in my own research that seems to do a pretty >>>>>>>> good job describing the history of (which is actually very interesting). >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpP0mXOlWM >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> But again, it's kind of academic. Anyone here into Vaporwave and >>>>>>>> can explain a bit of why/what? It seems that people are generally very >>>>>>>> opinionated on it in the more well-respected music circles. Plus, it seems >>>>>>>> to have a very devout following, considering the obscurity of it. Seemingly >>>>>>>> like IDM in its infancy. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> This is the song that people often reference most closely with the >>>>>>>> genre. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Thoughts? Opinions? Bueller? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>> From the desk of Alec Wild >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> -- >>>> Bruno Gola <brunogola@gmail.com> >>>> http://bgo.la/ >>>> >>> >>>

100 Hours of Vaporwave http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJuUPaDFJKsvetvZRLxopu_fVI7DiJHxG I think I managed to get midway through the second hour, but may well dip in again, some time soon. Much of it (Vaporwave) is exactly what folk say it is. But sometimes you hit gold. Some producers even manage to sustain the hit for longer than a single track. It's like wading through 80's vintage pop landfill trying to snuff out a sonic truffle. I guess it mostly beats listening to FM radio... Sent from my iPhone

quoted 120 lines On 7 Jan 2016, at 05:56, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 7 Jan 2016, at 05:56, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote: > > Yeah, the sleeve design was terrific and regarding the audio, i've always had the feeling that this album prefigured the Rhythm King/Coldcut-like samples-(over)loaded «house music» that came out soon after and which i instantly got into. > > It really sounds like some transitional album to me. > >> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 4:03 AM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> wrote: >> Haha, yeah. I own a copy of Flaunt It. Its packed away somewhere. I always get a kick out thumbing through the CD booklet when I come across it. Class!! >> >>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Although i had never heard about this literally nebulous genre before this thread popped in and after reading your comments, it turns out like i've been listening to vaporwave in my late 80s without even knowing it (maybe you have also) : >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk30a0qsVIk >>> >>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 5:41 PM, luca tommy tommasini <scaleni@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> an big answer after years and year >>>> of explorationz among clicks, glitchs, noise, fields... >>>> >>>> but i really dislike vapor-wave and acceletionasionism.. >>>> >>>> 2016-01-06 17:06 GMT+01:00 Bruno Gola <brunogola@gmail.com>: >>>>> speaking about ramona (Macintosh Plus), i love her other project vektroid: >>>>> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNP_QiOAHhQ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> for the record i enjoy the yacht rock stylings of daryl hall and john oates >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:47 AM, <ben@diamondste.in> wrote: >>>>>>> Ten points to Clint. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> thanks, >>>>>>> ben majoy (mobile) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 7:42 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> someone who drinks too much robotussin and passes out listening to hall & oates in the other room >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 1:14 AM, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> What is a Hipster? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2016 8:30 PM, "c. jones" <coda27@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Vaporwave is hipster kids from the late 90's/ early 00's reminiscing over a time they didn't exist in by ironically & lazily sampling 80's hits and slowing them down so as to they're doing something new and original, when in reality they're just contributing more and more detritus to basically what's an inside joke. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 17:11:59 -0800 >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: What is Vaporwave? >>>>>>>>>> From: alecwild6@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> To: ben@diamondste.in >>>>>>>>>> CC: kit.mauldin@yahoo.com; idm@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yeah, Vaporwave is kind of weird in the sense that it was born out of an aesthetic and then evolved so much beyond it while keeping the aesthetic evolving. I've seen some really interesting discussion on what Vaporwave becoming so ambient-focused in releases like 2814 means and where we draw the lin on what is and isn't vaporwave. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The Vaporwave documentary is great but was unfortunately released before "I'll try living like this", which I and many others consider the best vaporwave release of 2015. If you haven't listened to it, give the track "Somebody Home" a listen. I truly believe that the overstimulation and grooves of that song are going to become a theme of vaporwave at some point soon. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I think the vaporwave rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than a lot of people think, but it's a very weird genre to break into. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> I don't mind academic. From what I can tell, Vaporwave seems to have a lot of commentary attached to it, so I'm not surprised there's a lot of academic-level discussion around it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Christopher Mauldin <kit.mauldin@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Adam Harper who writes occasionally for the Wire and Dummy Mag is kind of the vaporwave ur-guru. Obsessive and academic. His blog, in case you have a few millennia of free time to burn: http://rougesfoam.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> >>>>>>>>>> To: Idm List <idm@hyperreal.org> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2016 4:50 PM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: What is Vaporwave? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In respect to the "Best of 2015" thread, I figured it may be worth bringing the Vaporwave topic to another email. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm fairly new to this list, so I've been hesitant to ask about Vaporwave, but it seems like something people have thoughts on. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Here's a video I found in my own research that seems to do a pretty good job describing the history of (which is actually very interesting). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpP0mXOlWM >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> But again, it's kind of academic. Anyone here into Vaporwave and can explain a bit of why/what? It seems that people are generally very opinionated on it in the more well-respected music circles. Plus, it seems to have a very devout following, considering the obscurity of it. Seemingly like IDM in its infancy. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This is the song that people often reference most closely with the genre. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thoughts? Opinions? Bueller? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> From the desk of Alec Wild >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Bruno Gola <brunogola@gmail.com> >>>>> http://bgo.la/

I actually knew nothing of this genre and its subreddit offspring until this thread (though I knew St Pepsi.) I love that a scene can create and self-replicate under the radar using today's technology. I'm listening to 2814 now and it's quite nice ambient background music https://youtu.be/F9L4q-0Pi4E thanks, *Jeffrey J Davis* jeff@jeffreyjdavis.com www.jeffreyjdavis.com 218.833.2847 <http://www.jeffreyjdavis.com> <https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JeffreyJDavis/about> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/phlow/> <http://instagram.com/jeffreyjdavis> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffreyjdavis/> <http://www.twitter.com/jeffreyjdavis> <http://www.quora.com/Jeffrey-J-Davis> <https://soundcloud.com/jeffreyjdavis> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 4:34 AM, Brian Power <minusplusequals@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 201 lines 100 Hours of Vaporwave

> 100 Hours of Vaporwave > > http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJuUPaDFJKsvetvZRLxopu_fVI7DiJHxG > > I think I managed to get midway through the second hour, but may well dip > in again, some time soon. > > Much of it (Vaporwave) is exactly what folk say it is. But sometimes you > hit gold. Some producers even manage to sustain the hit for longer than a > single track. > > It's like wading through 80's vintage pop landfill trying to snuff out a > sonic truffle. > > I guess it mostly beats listening to FM radio... > > Sent from my iPhone > On 7 Jan 2016, at 05:56, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote: > > Yeah, the sleeve design was terrific and regarding the audio, i've always > had the feeling that this album prefigured the *Rhythm King/Coldcut*-like > samples-(over)loaded «house music» that came out soon after and which i > instantly got into. > > It really sounds like some transitional album to me. > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 4:03 AM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> Haha, yeah. I own a copy of Flaunt It. Its packed away somewhere. I >> always get a kick out thumbing through the CD booklet when I come across >> it. Class!! >> >> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Although i had never heard about this literally nebulous genre before >>> this thread popped in and after reading your comments, it turns out like >>> i've been listening to vaporwave in my late 80s without even knowing it >>> (maybe you have also) : >>> *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk30a0qsVIk >>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk30a0qsVIk>* >>> >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 5:41 PM, luca tommy tommasini <scaleni@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>>> an big answer after years and year >>>> of explorationz among clicks, glitchs, noise, fields... >>>> >>>> but i really dislike vapor-wave and acceletionasionism.. >>>> >>>> 2016-01-06 17:06 GMT+01:00 Bruno Gola <brunogola@gmail.com>: >>>> >>>>> speaking about ramona (Macintosh Plus), i love her other project >>>>> vektroid: >>>>> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNP_QiOAHhQ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> for the record i enjoy the yacht rock stylings of daryl hall and john >>>>>> oates >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:47 AM, <ben@diamondste.in> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ten points to Clint. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> thanks, >>>>>>> ben majoy (mobile) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 7:42 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> someone who drinks too much robotussin and passes out listening to >>>>>>> hall & oates in the other room >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 1:14 AM, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> What is a Hipster? >>>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2016 8:30 PM, "c. jones" <coda27@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Vaporwave is hipster kids from the late 90's/ early 00's >>>>>>>>> reminiscing over a time they didn't exist in by ironically & lazily >>>>>>>>> sampling 80's hits and slowing them down so as to they're doing something >>>>>>>>> new and original, when in reality they're just contributing more and more >>>>>>>>> detritus to basically what's an inside joke. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 17:11:59 -0800 >>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: What is Vaporwave? >>>>>>>>> From: alecwild6@gmail.com >>>>>>>>> To: ben@diamondste.in >>>>>>>>> CC: kit.mauldin@yahoo.com; idm@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Yeah, Vaporwave is kind of weird in the sense that it was born out >>>>>>>>> of an aesthetic and then evolved so much beyond it while keeping the >>>>>>>>> aesthetic evolving. I've seen some really interesting discussion on what >>>>>>>>> Vaporwave becoming so ambient-focused in releases like 2814 means and where >>>>>>>>> we draw the lin on what is and isn't vaporwave. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The Vaporwave documentary is great but was unfortunately released >>>>>>>>> before "I'll try living like this", which I and many others consider the >>>>>>>>> best vaporwave release of 2015. If you haven't listened to it, give the >>>>>>>>> track "Somebody Home" a listen. I truly believe that the overstimulation >>>>>>>>> and grooves of that song are going to become a theme of vaporwave at some >>>>>>>>> point soon. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I think the vaporwave rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than a lot of >>>>>>>>> people think, but it's a very weird genre to break into. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Ben Diamondstein < >>>>>>>>> ben@diamondste.in> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I don't mind academic. From what I can tell, Vaporwave seems to >>>>>>>>> have a lot of commentary attached to it, so I'm not surprised there's a lot >>>>>>>>> of academic-level discussion around it. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Christopher Mauldin < >>>>>>>>> kit.mauldin@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Adam Harper who writes occasionally for the Wire and Dummy Mag is >>>>>>>>> kind of the vaporwave ur-guru. Obsessive and academic. His blog, in case >>>>>>>>> you have a few millennia of free time to burn: >>>>>>>>> http://rougesfoam.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>> *From:* Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> >>>>>>>>> *To:* Idm List <idm@hyperreal.org> >>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 5, 2016 4:50 PM >>>>>>>>> *Subject:* What is Vaporwave? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> In respect to the "Best of 2015" thread, I figured it may be worth >>>>>>>>> bringing the Vaporwave topic to another email. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I'm fairly new to this list, so I've been hesitant to ask about >>>>>>>>> Vaporwave, but it seems like something people have thoughts on. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Here's a video I found in my own research that seems to do a >>>>>>>>> pretty good job describing the history of (which is actually very >>>>>>>>> interesting). >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpP0mXOlWM >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> But again, it's kind of academic. Anyone here into Vaporwave and >>>>>>>>> can explain a bit of why/what? It seems that people are generally very >>>>>>>>> opinionated on it in the more well-respected music circles. Plus, it seems >>>>>>>>> to have a very devout following, considering the obscurity of it. Seemingly >>>>>>>>> like IDM in its infancy. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> This is the song that people often reference most closely with the >>>>>>>>> genre. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Thoughts? Opinions? Bueller? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>> From the desk of Alec Wild >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Bruno Gola <brunogola@gmail.com> >>>>> http://bgo.la/ >>>>> >>>> >>>>

Never heard of this genre until this as well. I have an album by 18 Clarat Affair, Televised Tragedies... is that Vaporwave? Have i always been a fan and i didn't know it? On 7 January 2016 at 16:02, Jeff Davis <jeff@jeffreyjdavis.com> wrote:

quoted 235 lines I actually knew nothing of this genre and its subreddit offspring until

> I actually knew nothing of this genre and its subreddit offspring until > this thread (though I knew St Pepsi.) > > I love that a scene can create and self-replicate under the radar using > today's technology. > > I'm listening to 2814 now and it's quite nice ambient background music > https://youtu.be/F9L4q-0Pi4E > > thanks, > > *Jeffrey J Davis* > > jeff@jeffreyjdavis.com > > www.jeffreyjdavis.com > > 218.833.2847 > > <http://www.jeffreyjdavis.com> > <https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JeffreyJDavis/about> > <https://www.flickr.com/photos/phlow/> > <http://instagram.com/jeffreyjdavis> > > <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffreyjdavis/> > <http://www.twitter.com/jeffreyjdavis> > <http://www.quora.com/Jeffrey-J-Davis> > <https://soundcloud.com/jeffreyjdavis> > > On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 4:34 AM, Brian Power <minusplusequals@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> 100 Hours of Vaporwave >> >> http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJuUPaDFJKsvetvZRLxopu_fVI7DiJHxG >> >> I think I managed to get midway through the second hour, but may well dip >> in again, some time soon. >> >> Much of it (Vaporwave) is exactly what folk say it is. But sometimes you >> hit gold. Some producers even manage to sustain the hit for longer than a >> single track. >> >> It's like wading through 80's vintage pop landfill trying to snuff out a >> sonic truffle. >> >> I guess it mostly beats listening to FM radio... >> >> Sent from my iPhone >> On 7 Jan 2016, at 05:56, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote: >> >> Yeah, the sleeve design was terrific and regarding the audio, i've always >> had the feeling that this album prefigured the *Rhythm King/Coldcut*-like >> samples-(over)loaded «house music» that came out soon after and which i >> instantly got into. >> >> It really sounds like some transitional album to me. >> >> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 4:03 AM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> Haha, yeah. I own a copy of Flaunt It. Its packed away somewhere. I >>> always get a kick out thumbing through the CD booklet when I come across >>> it. Class!! >>> >>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Although i had never heard about this literally nebulous genre before >>>> this thread popped in and after reading your comments, it turns out like >>>> i've been listening to vaporwave in my late 80s without even knowing it >>>> (maybe you have also) : >>>> *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk30a0qsVIk >>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk30a0qsVIk>* >>>> >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 5:41 PM, luca tommy tommasini <scaleni@gmail.com >>>> > wrote: >>>> >>>>> an big answer after years and year >>>>> of explorationz among clicks, glitchs, noise, fields... >>>>> >>>>> but i really dislike vapor-wave and acceletionasionism.. >>>>> >>>>> 2016-01-06 17:06 GMT+01:00 Bruno Gola <brunogola@gmail.com>: >>>>> >>>>>> speaking about ramona (Macintosh Plus), i love her other project >>>>>> vektroid: >>>>>> >>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNP_QiOAHhQ >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> for the record i enjoy the yacht rock stylings of daryl hall and >>>>>>> john oates >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:47 AM, <ben@diamondste.in> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Ten points to Clint. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> thanks, >>>>>>>> ben majoy (mobile) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 7:42 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> someone who drinks too much robotussin and passes out listening to >>>>>>>> hall & oates in the other room >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 1:14 AM, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> >>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> What is a Hipster? >>>>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2016 8:30 PM, "c. jones" <coda27@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Vaporwave is hipster kids from the late 90's/ early 00's >>>>>>>>>> reminiscing over a time they didn't exist in by ironically & lazily >>>>>>>>>> sampling 80's hits and slowing them down so as to they're doing something >>>>>>>>>> new and original, when in reality they're just contributing more and more >>>>>>>>>> detritus to basically what's an inside joke. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 17:11:59 -0800 >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: What is Vaporwave? >>>>>>>>>> From: alecwild6@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> To: ben@diamondste.in >>>>>>>>>> CC: kit.mauldin@yahoo.com; idm@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yeah, Vaporwave is kind of weird in the sense that it was born >>>>>>>>>> out of an aesthetic and then evolved so much beyond it while keeping the >>>>>>>>>> aesthetic evolving. I've seen some really interesting discussion on what >>>>>>>>>> Vaporwave becoming so ambient-focused in releases like 2814 means and where >>>>>>>>>> we draw the lin on what is and isn't vaporwave. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The Vaporwave documentary is great but was unfortunately released >>>>>>>>>> before "I'll try living like this", which I and many others consider the >>>>>>>>>> best vaporwave release of 2015. If you haven't listened to it, give the >>>>>>>>>> track "Somebody Home" a listen. I truly believe that the overstimulation >>>>>>>>>> and grooves of that song are going to become a theme of vaporwave at some >>>>>>>>>> point soon. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I think the vaporwave rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than a lot of >>>>>>>>>> people think, but it's a very weird genre to break into. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Ben Diamondstein < >>>>>>>>>> ben@diamondste.in> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I don't mind academic. From what I can tell, Vaporwave seems to >>>>>>>>>> have a lot of commentary attached to it, so I'm not surprised there's a lot >>>>>>>>>> of academic-level discussion around it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Christopher Mauldin < >>>>>>>>>> kit.mauldin@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Adam Harper who writes occasionally for the Wire and Dummy Mag is >>>>>>>>>> kind of the vaporwave ur-guru. Obsessive and academic. His blog, in case >>>>>>>>>> you have a few millennia of free time to burn: >>>>>>>>>> http://rougesfoam.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>> *From:* Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> >>>>>>>>>> *To:* Idm List <idm@hyperreal.org> >>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 5, 2016 4:50 PM >>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* What is Vaporwave? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In respect to the "Best of 2015" thread, I figured it may be >>>>>>>>>> worth bringing the Vaporwave topic to another email. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm fairly new to this list, so I've been hesitant to ask about >>>>>>>>>> Vaporwave, but it seems like something people have thoughts on. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Here's a video I found in my own research that seems to do a >>>>>>>>>> pretty good job describing the history of (which is actually very >>>>>>>>>> interesting). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpP0mXOlWM >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> But again, it's kind of academic. Anyone here into Vaporwave and >>>>>>>>>> can explain a bit of why/what? It seems that people are generally very >>>>>>>>>> opinionated on it in the more well-respected music circles. Plus, it seems >>>>>>>>>> to have a very devout following, considering the obscurity of it. Seemingly >>>>>>>>>> like IDM in its infancy. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This is the song that people often reference most closely with >>>>>>>>>> the genre. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thoughts? Opinions? Bueller? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> From the desk of Alec Wild >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Bruno Gola <brunogola@gmail.com> >>>>>> http://bgo.la/ >>>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >

so what should i call all the stuff i like by richard devine, grischa lichtenberger, randomform, and the like? graincore? :) Clint Anderson Systems Engineer "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 10:38 AM, Liam Frankland <liamfrankland@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 243 lines Never heard of this genre until this as well. I have an album by 18 Clarat

> Never heard of this genre until this as well. I have an album by 18 Clarat > Affair, Televised Tragedies... is that Vaporwave? Have i always been a fan > and i didn't know it? > > On 7 January 2016 at 16:02, Jeff Davis <jeff@jeffreyjdavis.com> wrote: > >> I actually knew nothing of this genre and its subreddit offspring until >> this thread (though I knew St Pepsi.) >> >> I love that a scene can create and self-replicate under the radar using >> today's technology. >> >> I'm listening to 2814 now and it's quite nice ambient background music >> https://youtu.be/F9L4q-0Pi4E >> >> thanks, >> >> *Jeffrey J Davis* >> >> jeff@jeffreyjdavis.com >> >> www.jeffreyjdavis.com >> >> 218.833.2847 >> >> <http://www.jeffreyjdavis.com> >> <https://plus.google.com/u/0/+JeffreyJDavis/about> >> <https://www.flickr.com/photos/phlow/> >> <http://instagram.com/jeffreyjdavis> >> >> <http://www.linkedin.com/in/jeffreyjdavis/> >> <http://www.twitter.com/jeffreyjdavis> >> <http://www.quora.com/Jeffrey-J-Davis> >> <https://soundcloud.com/jeffreyjdavis> >> >> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 4:34 AM, Brian Power <minusplusequals@gmail.com> >> wrote: >> >>> 100 Hours of Vaporwave >>> >>> http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJuUPaDFJKsvetvZRLxopu_fVI7DiJHxG >>> >>> I think I managed to get midway through the second hour, but may well >>> dip in again, some time soon. >>> >>> Much of it (Vaporwave) is exactly what folk say it is. But sometimes you >>> hit gold. Some producers even manage to sustain the hit for longer than a >>> single track. >>> >>> It's like wading through 80's vintage pop landfill trying to snuff out a >>> sonic truffle. >>> >>> I guess it mostly beats listening to FM radio... >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone >>> On 7 Jan 2016, at 05:56, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> >>> wrote: >>> >>> Yeah, the sleeve design was terrific and regarding the audio, i've >>> always had the feeling that this album prefigured the *Rhythm >>> King/Coldcut*-like samples-(over)loaded «house music» that came out >>> soon after and which i instantly got into. >>> >>> It really sounds like some transitional album to me. >>> >>> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 4:03 AM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com >>> > wrote: >>> >>>> Haha, yeah. I own a copy of Flaunt It. Its packed away somewhere. I >>>> always get a kick out thumbing through the CD booklet when I come across >>>> it. Class!! >>>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Laurent Knauth < >>>> laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Although i had never heard about this literally nebulous genre before >>>>> this thread popped in and after reading your comments, it turns out like >>>>> i've been listening to vaporwave in my late 80s without even knowing it >>>>> (maybe you have also) : >>>>> *https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk30a0qsVIk >>>>> <https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk30a0qsVIk>* >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 5:41 PM, luca tommy tommasini < >>>>> scaleni@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> an big answer after years and year >>>>>> of explorationz among clicks, glitchs, noise, fields... >>>>>> >>>>>> but i really dislike vapor-wave and acceletionasionism.. >>>>>> >>>>>> 2016-01-06 17:06 GMT+01:00 Bruno Gola <brunogola@gmail.com>: >>>>>> >>>>>>> speaking about ramona (Macintosh Plus), i love her other project >>>>>>> vektroid: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNP_QiOAHhQ >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> for the record i enjoy the yacht rock stylings of daryl hall and >>>>>>>> john oates >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:47 AM, <ben@diamondste.in> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Ten points to Clint. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> thanks, >>>>>>>>> ben majoy (mobile) >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 7:42 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> someone who drinks too much robotussin and passes out listening to >>>>>>>>> hall & oates in the other room >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 1:14 AM, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> >>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> What is a Hipster? >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2016 8:30 PM, "c. jones" <coda27@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Vaporwave is hipster kids from the late 90's/ early 00's >>>>>>>>>>> reminiscing over a time they didn't exist in by ironically & lazily >>>>>>>>>>> sampling 80's hits and slowing them down so as to they're doing something >>>>>>>>>>> new and original, when in reality they're just contributing more and more >>>>>>>>>>> detritus to basically what's an inside joke. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 17:11:59 -0800 >>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: What is Vaporwave? >>>>>>>>>>> From: alecwild6@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>>> To: ben@diamondste.in >>>>>>>>>>> CC: kit.mauldin@yahoo.com; idm@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Yeah, Vaporwave is kind of weird in the sense that it was born >>>>>>>>>>> out of an aesthetic and then evolved so much beyond it while keeping the >>>>>>>>>>> aesthetic evolving. I've seen some really interesting discussion on what >>>>>>>>>>> Vaporwave becoming so ambient-focused in releases like 2814 means and where >>>>>>>>>>> we draw the lin on what is and isn't vaporwave. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The Vaporwave documentary is great but was unfortunately >>>>>>>>>>> released before "I'll try living like this", which I and many others >>>>>>>>>>> consider the best vaporwave release of 2015. If you haven't listened to it, >>>>>>>>>>> give the track "Somebody Home" a listen. I truly believe that the >>>>>>>>>>> overstimulation and grooves of that song are going to become a theme of >>>>>>>>>>> vaporwave at some point soon. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I think the vaporwave rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than a lot >>>>>>>>>>> of people think, but it's a very weird genre to break into. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Ben Diamondstein < >>>>>>>>>>> ben@diamondste.in> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I don't mind academic. From what I can tell, Vaporwave seems to >>>>>>>>>>> have a lot of commentary attached to it, so I'm not surprised there's a lot >>>>>>>>>>> of academic-level discussion around it. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Christopher Mauldin < >>>>>>>>>>> kit.mauldin@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Adam Harper who writes occasionally for the Wire and Dummy Mag >>>>>>>>>>> is kind of the vaporwave ur-guru. Obsessive and academic. His blog, in case >>>>>>>>>>> you have a few millennia of free time to burn: >>>>>>>>>>> http://rougesfoam.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> ------------------------------ >>>>>>>>>>> *From:* Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> >>>>>>>>>>> *To:* Idm List <idm@hyperreal.org> >>>>>>>>>>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 5, 2016 4:50 PM >>>>>>>>>>> *Subject:* What is Vaporwave? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> In respect to the "Best of 2015" thread, I figured it may be >>>>>>>>>>> worth bringing the Vaporwave topic to another email. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> I'm fairly new to this list, so I've been hesitant to ask about >>>>>>>>>>> Vaporwave, but it seems like something people have thoughts on. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Here's a video I found in my own research that seems to do a >>>>>>>>>>> pretty good job describing the history of (which is actually very >>>>>>>>>>> interesting). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpP0mXOlWM >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> But again, it's kind of academic. Anyone here into Vaporwave and >>>>>>>>>>> can explain a bit of why/what? It seems that people are generally very >>>>>>>>>>> opinionated on it in the more well-respected music circles. Plus, it seems >>>>>>>>>>> to have a very devout following, considering the obscurity of it. Seemingly >>>>>>>>>>> like IDM in its infancy. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> This is the song that people often reference most closely with >>>>>>>>>>> the genre. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Thoughts? Opinions? Bueller? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>>> From the desk of Alec Wild >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> -- >>>>>>> Bruno Gola <brunogola@gmail.com> >>>>>>> http://bgo.la/ >>>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >> >

Washed Hands - I’m Feeling So Great https://soundcloud.com/washedhands/im-feeling-so-great ilkae is 1/2 of Washed Hands (for the IDM tie-in) love that one Also: https://gamera.bandcamp.com/album/eternal-life Definitely one I hit often and probably my favorite album in this corner of the musical spectrum because of the hip-hop influence. Lot of gems for me but Too Late, Water God, Slow down Beat and Eternal Wisdom are standouts. On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:11 PM, Alec Wild <alecwild6@gmail.com> wrote:

quoted 75 lines Yeah, Vaporwave is kind of weird in the sense that it was born out of an

> Yeah, Vaporwave is kind of weird in the sense that it was born out of an > aesthetic and then evolved so much beyond it while keeping the aesthetic > evolving. I've seen some really interesting discussion on what Vaporwave > becoming so ambient-focused in releases like 2814 means and where we draw > the lin on what is and isn't vaporwave. > > The Vaporwave documentary is great but was unfortunately released before > "I'll try living like this", which I and many others consider the best > vaporwave release of 2015. If you haven't listened to it, give the track > "Somebody Home" a listen. I truly believe that the overstimulation and > grooves of that song are going to become a theme of vaporwave at some point > soon. > > I think the vaporwave rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than a lot of people > think, but it's a very weird genre to break into. > > On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> > wrote: > >> I don't mind academic. From what I can tell, Vaporwave seems to have a >> lot of commentary attached to it, so I'm not surprised there's a lot of >> academic-level discussion around it. >> >> >> >> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Christopher Mauldin < >> kit.mauldin@yahoo.com> wrote: >> >>> Adam Harper who writes occasionally for the Wire and Dummy Mag is kind >>> of the vaporwave ur-guru. Obsessive and academic. His blog, in case you >>> have a few millennia of free time to burn: >>> http://rougesfoam.blogspot.com/ >>> >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------ >>> *From:* Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> >>> *To:* Idm List <idm@hyperreal.org> >>> *Sent:* Tuesday, January 5, 2016 4:50 PM >>> *Subject:* What is Vaporwave? >>> >>> In respect to the "Best of 2015" thread, I figured it may be worth >>> bringing the Vaporwave topic to another email. >>> >>> I'm fairly new to this list, so I've been hesitant to ask about >>> Vaporwave, but it seems like something people have thoughts on. >>> >>> Here's a video I found in my own research that seems to do a pretty good >>> job describing the history of (which is actually very interesting). >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpP0mXOlWM >>> >>> But again, it's kind of academic. Anyone here into Vaporwave and can >>> explain a bit of why/what? It seems that people are generally very >>> opinionated on it in the more well-respected music circles. Plus, it seems >>> to have a very devout following, considering the obscurity of it. Seemingly >>> like IDM in its infancy. >>> >>> This is the song that people often reference most closely with the >>> genre. >>> >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE >>> >>> Thoughts? Opinions? Bueller? >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > -- > From the desk of Alec Wild >

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I think describing older Vaporwave as slowed down 80's music is just half of it. The style of future funk which tends to use 80's RnB or Italo Disco samples does indeed conjure a up feeling of being on drugs or nostalgia when listening to it, but for me it introduces to idea of hearing sustained instruments and modulated tones in what would otherwise go unnoticed in a recording because of the requirements of fulfilling a genre at the time. Vaporwave made what sounded familiar seem distant again and in the process broke down the boundaries that limited the sampled source material, at least for me. Granted if you don't like much 80's popular music you probably would not like what some Vaporwave has to offer. A lot of it sounds like shit. At first though, the genre reminded me of some Baldelli cosmic disco mixes tapes I downloaded from Gomma a few years back. Lately, this stuff has taken kind of a cyberpunk ambient turn to it, but its is all over the place. The Taspo album I referred to in my above post has a electro pop trap vibe to it. On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:50 PM, Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> wrote:

quoted 25 lines In respect to the "Best of 2015" thread, I figured it may be worth

> In respect to the "Best of 2015" thread, I figured it may be worth > bringing the Vaporwave topic to another email. > > I'm fairly new to this list, so I've been hesitant to ask about Vaporwave, > but it seems like something people have thoughts on. > > Here's a video I found in my own research that seems to do a pretty good > job describing the history of (which is actually very interesting). > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpP0mXOlWM > > But again, it's kind of academic. Anyone here into Vaporwave and can > explain a bit of why/what? It seems that people are generally very > opinionated on it in the more well-respected music circles. Plus, it seems > to have a very devout following, considering the obscurity of it. Seemingly > like IDM in its infancy. > > This is the song that people often reference most closely with the genre. > > https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE > > Thoughts? Opinions? Bueller? > > >