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From:
Brian Power
To:
Laurent Knauth
Cc:
Ransom Schafer , luca tommy tommasini , Bruno Gola , Clint Anderson , Ben Diamondstein , Rjyan Kidwell , cody jones , Idm List
Date:
Thu, 7 Jan 2016 10:34:20 +0000
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Re: What is Vaporwave?
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100 Hours of Vaporwave http://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLJuUPaDFJKsvetvZRLxopu_fVI7DiJHxG I think I managed to get midway through the second hour, but may well dip in again, some time soon. Much of it (Vaporwave) is exactly what folk say it is. But sometimes you hit gold. Some producers even manage to sustain the hit for longer than a single track. It's like wading through 80's vintage pop landfill trying to snuff out a sonic truffle. I guess it mostly beats listening to FM radio... Sent from my iPhone
quoted 120 lines On 7 Jan 2016, at 05:56, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote:> On 7 Jan 2016, at 05:56, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote: > > Yeah, the sleeve design was terrific and regarding the audio, i've always had the feeling that this album prefigured the Rhythm King/Coldcut-like samples-(over)loaded «house music» that came out soon after and which i instantly got into. > > It really sounds like some transitional album to me. > >> On Thu, Jan 7, 2016 at 4:03 AM, Ransom Schafer <ransom.schafer@gmail.com> wrote: >> Haha, yeah. I own a copy of Flaunt It. Its packed away somewhere. I always get a kick out thumbing through the CD booklet when I come across it. Class!! >> >>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 1:09 PM, Laurent Knauth <laurent.knauth@gmail.com> wrote: >>> Although i had never heard about this literally nebulous genre before this thread popped in and after reading your comments, it turns out like i've been listening to vaporwave in my late 80s without even knowing it (maybe you have also) : >>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pk30a0qsVIk >>> >>> >>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 5:41 PM, luca tommy tommasini <scaleni@gmail.com> wrote: >>>> an big answer after years and year >>>> of explorationz among clicks, glitchs, noise, fields... >>>> >>>> but i really dislike vapor-wave and acceletionasionism.. >>>> >>>> 2016-01-06 17:06 GMT+01:00 Bruno Gola <brunogola@gmail.com>: >>>>> speaking about ramona (Macintosh Plus), i love her other project vektroid: >>>>> >>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PNP_QiOAHhQ >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 4:48 PM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>> for the record i enjoy the yacht rock stylings of daryl hall and john oates >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 9:47 AM, <ben@diamondste.in> wrote: >>>>>>> Ten points to Clint. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> thanks, >>>>>>> ben majoy (mobile) >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On Jan 6, 2016, at 7:42 AM, Clint Anderson <clinta@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> someone who drinks too much robotussin and passes out listening to hall & oates in the other room >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Clint Anderson >>>>>>>> Systems Engineer >>>>>>>> "Freedom -- paint me a picture!" -- Burton Cummings >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On Wed, Jan 6, 2016 at 1:14 AM, Rjyan Kidwell <cexwell@gmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>> What is a Hipster? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Jan 5, 2016 8:30 PM, "c. jones" <coda27@hotmail.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Vaporwave is hipster kids from the late 90's/ early 00's reminiscing over a time they didn't exist in by ironically & lazily sampling 80's hits and slowing them down so as to they're doing something new and original, when in reality they're just contributing more and more detritus to basically what's an inside joke. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Date: Tue, 5 Jan 2016 17:11:59 -0800 >>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: What is Vaporwave? >>>>>>>>>> From: alecwild6@gmail.com >>>>>>>>>> To: ben@diamondste.in >>>>>>>>>> CC: kit.mauldin@yahoo.com; idm@hyperreal.org >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yeah, Vaporwave is kind of weird in the sense that it was born out of an aesthetic and then evolved so much beyond it while keeping the aesthetic evolving. I've seen some really interesting discussion on what Vaporwave becoming so ambient-focused in releases like 2814 means and where we draw the lin on what is and isn't vaporwave. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> The Vaporwave documentary is great but was unfortunately released before "I'll try living like this", which I and many others consider the best vaporwave release of 2015. If you haven't listened to it, give the track "Somebody Home" a listen. I truly believe that the overstimulation and grooves of that song are going to become a theme of vaporwave at some point soon. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I think the vaporwave rabbit hole goes a lot deeper than a lot of people think, but it's a very weird genre to break into. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 5:06 PM, Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> I don't mind academic. From what I can tell, Vaporwave seems to have a lot of commentary attached to it, so I'm not surprised there's a lot of academic-level discussion around it. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On Tue, Jan 5, 2016 at 4:58 PM, Christopher Mauldin <kit.mauldin@yahoo.com> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> Adam Harper who writes occasionally for the Wire and Dummy Mag is kind of the vaporwave ur-guru. Obsessive and academic. His blog, in case you have a few millennia of free time to burn: http://rougesfoam.blogspot.com/ >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> From: Ben Diamondstein <ben@diamondste.in> >>>>>>>>>> To: Idm List <idm@hyperreal.org> >>>>>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, January 5, 2016 4:50 PM >>>>>>>>>> Subject: What is Vaporwave? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> In respect to the "Best of 2015" thread, I figured it may be worth bringing the Vaporwave topic to another email. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> I'm fairly new to this list, so I've been hesitant to ask about Vaporwave, but it seems like something people have thoughts on. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Here's a video I found in my own research that seems to do a pretty good job describing the history of (which is actually very interesting). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PdpP0mXOlWM >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> But again, it's kind of academic. Anyone here into Vaporwave and can explain a bit of why/what? It seems that people are generally very opinionated on it in the more well-respected music circles. Plus, it seems to have a very devout following, considering the obscurity of it. Seemingly like IDM in its infancy. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> This is the song that people often reference most closely with the genre. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU8HrO7XuiE >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Thoughts? Opinions? Bueller? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> -- >>>>>>>>>> From the desk of Alec Wild >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> Bruno Gola <brunogola@gmail.com> >>>>> http://bgo.la/