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2001-01-14 03:28idm pollHi there, Given the small number of people who replied to the poll, I think it deserves to

From:: idm poll <idmpoll@aphextwin.zzn.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 03:28:06 -2400
Subject:: [idm] IDM Poll Of The Century

Hi there, Given the small number of people who replied to the poll, I think it deserves to be extended until Sunday January 21st to give an extra chance to those of you who would have forgotten about it or maybe just not seen it previously. Many thanks to those who have already replied. :-) For those wishing to participate, please read below... ---------- These 11 questions are meant to determine what none of us should be missing in his/her record collection as well as other related information of interest. Therefore, cheating is not necessary. The lack of objectivity of biased results would only be unfair to deserving artists and fellow subscribers to the list (that means you included !). Thank you. If you can't completely fill out the form from questions 1 to 7 included, your vote cannot be taken into consideration given that you probably don't know enough about this genre to give an objective point of view. Sorry but otherwise only the most famous IDM artists would win everytime. However, several works from the same artist may belong to the same category. Answers sent to the mailing list will not be taken into account. Please reply *only* to: idmpoll@aphextwin.zzn.com Results will be given before January 26th on the IDM mailing list and will be available on-line at: www.france-techno.com/topher/idm/poll.html Thank you for your time and consideration. Please bear in mind that your answers serve everyone. Topher. :-) -------------------------------------------------- ------------------ 01. Top 10 electronic albums of the century (1. is best) 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 02. Top 10 electronic E.P.'s of the century (1. is best) 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 03. Top 5 IDM albums of year 2000 (1. is best) 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 04. Top 5 IDM E.P.'s of year 2000 (1. is best) 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 05. Best 10 IDM record labels (1. is best) 1. 2. 3. 4. 5. 6. 7. 8. 9. 10. 06. Most underrated IDM artist (only one) - 07. Most overrated IDM artist (only one) - 08. Best IDM Internet radios (as many as you like) - 09. Favourite IDM record stores (as many as you like - please mention City and Country for each) - 10. Best IDM live act (only one) - 11. Best IDM D.J. (only one) - -------------------------------- In association with Aphex Start at http://www.aphextwin.org ____________________________________________________________ Get your own FREE Web and POP E-mail Service in 14 languages at http://www.zzn.com. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2001-01-13 04:00Bill WrightSorry, I would like to answer and contribute but I don't know enough about idm. Bill >If y

From:: Bill Wright <bill@subtr.ac>
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Date:: Fri, 12 Jan 2001 23:00:07 -0500
Subject:: Re: [idm] IDM Poll Of The Century
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Sorry, I would like to answer and contribute but I don't know enough about idm. Bill

quoted 11 lines If you can't completely fill out the form from

>If you can't completely fill out the form from >questions 1 to 7 >included, your vote cannot be taken into >consideration given that you >probably don't know enough about this genre to >give an objective >point of view. Sorry but otherwise only the most >famous IDM artists >would win everytime. However, several works from >the same artist may >belong to the same category.

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2001-01-13 19:03Irene McCOn 13 Jan 2001, idm poll wrote re [idm] IDM Poll Of The Century: > If you can't completely

From:: Irene McC <substar@iafrica.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sat, 13 Jan 2001 21:03:42 +0200
Subject:: Re: [idm] IDM Poll Of The Century
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On 13 Jan 2001, idm poll wrote re [idm] IDM Poll Of The Century:

quoted 4 lines If you can't completely fill out the form from questions 1 to 7

> If you can't completely fill out the form from questions 1 to 7 > included, your vote cannot be taken into consideration given that > you probably don't know enough about this genre to give an > objective point of view.

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2001-01-14 21:07jon andersonIDM? Century? ... Can we include favorites that are merely IM? Or just M? I'm confused. I'

From:: jon anderson <pyrrhonist2@yahoo.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sun, 14 Jan 2001 13:07:29 -0800 (PST)
Subject:: Re: [idm] IDM Poll Of The Century

IDM? Century? ... Can we include favorites that are merely IM? Or just M? I'm confused. I'm not sure about how all the categorization works. "Intelligent Dance Music" doesn't specify "electronic" (IEDM would be a more helpful acronym), but fortunately the poll clarifies this point, by asking for favorite "electronic" music. By asking us for "electronic" favorites, rather than IDM favorites (which is implicite nonetheless), and by specifying a "century", it is suggested that we include the nearly obligatory Stockhausen or John Cage in our lists. This would indicate our open-minded definition of IDM - even though these artists did not make music intended for the dancefloor. They were only IM. One question I have is: Should we include, in our listings, music that was intended for the dancefloor, but isn't considered "electronic"? (like a nice waltz... incidentally, doesn't freeform have a waltz track... on "me shape" maybe? Sadly, the only waltz I can think of off-hand is some IDM track) This would seem fair, since we presumably may include electronic music that isn't dancey. I've been listening to, dancing to, and collecting electronic dance-oriented techno-related type whatchamacallit music since the early 90's, and yet I'm not sure I'm competent to fill out an IDM survey because it seems to require not only an expert knowledge of IDM (a style which, conventionally defined, started much less than 100 years ago), but a comparable knowledge of this century's electronic music. In good conscience, I cannot make this pretense. I know a thing or two about music history, a working knowledge, but I also know enough to know that Reich, Glass, Xenakis, et al are like the "pop" of electronic music. (like Aphex and Autechre are to IDM.) I wouldn't want "just the popular artists to win every time", so I'll have to leave that category out of my voting. It's funny how conceptual categories shape what we see... I could include Led Zeppelin in my list, really. I wouldn't think of it though because Zep isn't in the "electronic" bin at a record shop. History books that I've read usually name Cage as "first electronic music guy", because he used turntables. Music is "electronic" so long as it is produced by instruments with electronics... So obviously, as a category, "electronic music" encompasses much more than what people mean when they say "electronic music". Then there's "digital"... "electro acoustic"... the question of what "danceable" really is... are "synthesizers" essential to a definition of this style... Well, it's confusing enough trying to decide what styles and genres are what, but ultimately, the reason I decided not to fill out the survey is because I had a buying freeze this last year. So I can't come up with an adequate top 10 for year 2000, which disqualifies me. j __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get email at your own domain with Yahoo! Mail. http://personal.mail.yahoo.com/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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