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2000-12-14 15:27Gilly [idm] The stupidest thing I've ever seen posted on this list
├─ 2000-12-14 18:52adam florin Re: [idm] The stupidest thing I've ever seen posted on this list
└─ 2000-12-15 10:31Konstantin Minko [idm] Ae evolution (Wevie Stonder)
2000-12-15 10:51component Re: [idm] Ae evolution (Wevie Stonder)
└─ 2000-12-15 11:06Konstantin Minko RE: [idm] Ae evolution (Wevie Stonder)
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2000-12-14 15:27GillyAndrei wrote (during the debate with Will Samuels) >>I think besides Autechre he's basical
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Andrei wrote (during the debate with Will Samuels)
quoted 1 line I think besides Autechre he's basically the only one doing anything new in>>I think besides Autechre he's basically the only one doing anything new in
IDM and a lot of people seem to hate them for that. (Please keep the flames to a minimum.) >>> puh-lease Afx, Ae doing anything *NEW* ????? they have never changed their formula since the Artificial Intelligence days. Please buy some new records May I suggest you listen to some Atom Heart and pay attention to someone who has NEVER re-used the same formula... as the two artists you mention can't seem to stop doing. g np: pest(e)- lungsoftheclock --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-12-14 18:52adam florin>Andrei wrote (during the debate with Will Samuels) >>>I think besides Autechre he's basic
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quoted 10 lines Andrei wrote (during the debate with Will Samuels)>Andrei wrote (during the debate with Will Samuels) >>>I think besides Autechre he's basically the only one doing anything new in >IDM and a lot of people seem to hate them for that. (Please keep the >flames to a minimum.) >>> > > >puh-lease Afx, Ae doing anything *NEW* ????? > >they have never changed their formula >since the Artificial Intelligence days. Please buy some new records
oh, you kids and your radical viewpoints. i feel like the idm list has dissipated to 'who can have the most offensive opinion' followed by a pretense of deterring flames. afx/ae are certainly NOT the only people doing anything new in idm (for christ's sakes, pole, boc, feq have all put out things in the last two years that changed the way i listen to music), NOR have they 'never changed their formula'. to dip into another argument, 'windowlicker' is an excellent track, very ornate and quirky and yet funky, demonstrating that mr. james' mastery of timbres has never been greater. and ae is not quite just the 'same old', and i'm sure that you recognize this, despite your sensationalist concept of music today. in any case, as the genre is growing more firmly established, it must begin to grow *inward*, rather than *outward*. that is to say, nobody is shocked by such-and-such bpm or such amount of noise anymore ; the only place to go is towards more precise control over the textures of sounds, more variation in the beats (idm has always been good about this one), more thought towards song structure, and so forth. i know the inner simon reynolds in us will say, 'to hell with musicianship i want shit to be CRAZY' but that can only go so far, really. well. i hope some of you recognize my name--i'm back after seven months off the list, and am glad to see that nothing has changed ; we're still bickering about the genius of aphex and what constitutes 'selling out', as it relates to aphex, why dance music is inherently inferior to more mature forms of music, and perhaps autechre, and, oh, the rest of the genre here and there, but mostly to what extent they are influenced by aphex. jolly good ! .af. ps; i make moooooooosic http://www.zenda.com/af/music.html pps; look out for a radioshow this january called 'electroacousticadillacmusic', if all goes well. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-12-15 10:31Konstantin Minko> puh-lease Afx, Ae doing anything *NEW* ????? > > they have never changed their formula >
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quoted 5 lines puh-lease Afx, Ae doing anything *NEW* ?????> puh-lease Afx, Ae doing anything *NEW* ????? > > they have never changed their formula > since the Artificial Intelligence days. Please buy some new records >
AE didn't change their formula??? Are you serious? I'm sure you're joking about the thread. Ae was one of the most impressive examples of how a band does not stick to their previous material and evolutionize their sound in the next album. Just compare Incunabula to Amber to Tri to Chiastic and the only thing similar you might find is the FEEL of Ae, those melancholic alien melodies which made their sound so exclusive and fantastically charming. btw. EP7 lacks the FEEL and this is one of the reasons I still can't appreciate it that much... Evolution is still a trademark of Ae after LP5 and EP7 as well... we come in peace Alien np. Wevie Stonder "Eat Your Own Ears" (Skam) - ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT STUFF!!!! not idm though which is rather strange for label featuring BoC and Gescom... Anyone can tell me who are they and what stuff they consume to make the funniest music I ever heard! 8))))) --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-12-15 10:51componentWevie Stonder is one of the worst discs I've ever heard. It has the distinction of being t
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Wevie Stonder is one of the worst discs I've ever heard. It has the distinction of being the only record/cd on Skam that I've bought and then later sold. If you dig wevie stonder, I suggest picking up some old monty python. They did it much better. Rob www.componentrecords.com ----- Original Message ----- From: Konstantin Minko <ibss@ukrpack.net> To: <idm@hyperreal.org>; Gilly <galaxey@sdccu.net> Sent: Friday, December 15, 2000 5:31 AM Subject: [idm] Ae evolution (Wevie Stonder)
quoted 31 lines puh-lease Afx, Ae doing anything *NEW* ?????> > > puh-lease Afx, Ae doing anything *NEW* ????? > > > > they have never changed their formula > > since the Artificial Intelligence days. Please buy some new records > > > > AE didn't change their formula??? Are you serious? I'm sure you're joking > about the thread. Ae was one of the most impressive examples of how a band > does not stick to their previous material and evolutionize their sound in > the next album. Just compare Incunabula to Amber to Tri to Chiastic and the > only thing similar you might find is the FEEL of Ae, those melancholic alien > melodies which made their sound so exclusive and fantastically charming. > btw. EP7 lacks the FEEL and this is one of the reasons I still can't > appreciate it that much... Evolution is still a trademark of Ae after LP5 > and EP7 as well... > > we come in peace > > Alien > > np. Wevie Stonder "Eat Your Own Ears" (Skam) - ABSOLUTELY BRILLIANT > STUFF!!!! not idm though which is rather strange for label featuring BoC and > Gescom... Anyone can tell me who are they and what stuff they consume to > make the funniest music I ever heard! 8))))) > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2000-12-15 11:06Konstantin Minko> Wevie Stonder is one of the worst discs I've ever heard. It has > the distinction > of b
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quoted 11 lines Wevie Stonder is one of the worst discs I've ever heard. It has> Wevie Stonder is one of the worst discs I've ever heard. It has > the distinction > of being the only record/cd on Skam that I've bought and then later sold. > > If you dig wevie stonder, I suggest picking up some old monty > python. They > did it much better. > > Rob > www.componentrecords.com >
Of course it does not fit with all other Skam releases. And if you're not fan of fun musical experiments you should sell this cd. This is not idm but I love it. It's pure prank and one has to see it as such. I'll try to see in Monty Piton stuff, thx. Alien np. Funkstorung "Live in Roskilde" mp3s --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org