IDM Mailing Archive

2000-10-29 22:35Kurt Hoffman> > What annoys me is the amount of people that think trance is techno. > >...to which I s

From:: Kurt Hoffman <supine@bway.net>
To:: IDM <idm@hyperreal.org>
Cc:: Mxyzptlk <jpklein@telocity.com>
Date:: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 17:35:17 -0500
Subject:: [idm] people that think trance is techno

quoted 10 lines What annoys me is the amount of people that think trance is techno.

> > What annoys me is the amount of people that think trance is techno. > >...to which I say : > >There is a HUGE thread imbedded here. I think there are a lot of people who >can't tell the difference at all...and this leads me to elaborate on something >you mention below (sorta) - *I* think there is a great, fixed gulf >between what >we used to call trance back in the early-mid 90s and what is schlepped off for >

it seems like the curse of trance is that some of it is the most mainstream electronic dance music out there, and, as such, constitutes a sort of crappy pop-disco. pop-song chord changes, exhausted synth sounds, dumbass 'soaring' melodies and bombastic drum rolls... but obviously it's not all like that. (and there's certainly enough four on the floor techno driven by hammering sixteen-note synth lines that one could be forgiven for believing the two genres were somehow related.) milling around the record store I've been checking out some psychedelic trance singles and thought that some of it sounded great in a tripped-out electro kinda way, seemingly shorn of many of the problems I have with trance. anyone know about this stuff and think that any of it meets the impeccably high standards of IDM? kurt --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-10-30 20:15M Mercerhullo, the only trance release i've picked up in the last year or so (and it's not very re

From:: M Mercer <vletrmx@hotmail.com>
To:: <supine@bway.net>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 15:15:09 EST
Subject:: Re: [idm] people that think trance is techno

hullo, the only trance release i've picked up in the last year or so (and it's not very recent at all, it might be over a year now that i think about it) was Sasha's "Xpander" release on Ultra. i think it dodges the trance-by-numbers stereotype and actually backs up his reputation to an extent as he produced these tracks himself. It's impeccably produced and put together, if nothing else. And the tracks are actually pretty good IMHO. Much better than most trance I've heard (which is not a whole lot, admittedly), and certainly than whatever it is that BT is doing now (definitely not trance), not my tea. matt

quoted 13 lines From: Kurt Hoffman <supine@bway.net>

>From: Kurt Hoffman <supine@bway.net> >To: IDM <idm@hyperreal.org> >CC: Mxyzptlk <jpklein@telocity.com> >Subject: [idm] people that think trance is techno >Date: Sun, 29 Oct 2000 17:35:17 -0500 > >milling around the record store I've been checking out some >psychedelic trance singles and thought that some of it sounded great >in a tripped-out electro kinda way, seemingly shorn of many of the >problems I have with trance. anyone know about this stuff and think >that any of it meets the impeccably high standards of IDM? > >kurt

+------------------------------------+ m.mercer :: systm audio-visual communicator http://artists.mp3s.com/artists/98/systm.html mmercer@kent.edu :: vletrmx@hotmail.com _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-10-30 21:21Gaiatekztur214@aol.comum..its not x-actlee trance but motor 2 on the overly re-pressed(tee-hee) "Motors" ep by g

From:: <Gaiatekztur214@aol.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Mon, 30 Oct 2000 16:21:25 EST
Subject:: Re: [idm] people that think trance is techno

um..its not x-actlee trance but motor 2 on the overly re-pressed(tee-hee) "Motors" ep by gescom on source is...well..techno-ish trance/trancy techno at the very least...I personally h8 cold killa labels of all kinds...blanket statements are overbearing stamps...i do think however that a positive aspect is the better initial understanding of what you're buying is>>>off topic but i think electronic music occurs naturally when my mad qual GPX walkman when it picks up interference from cell phones and streetlights and blends into mix tapes iM playing...headfuckers those chinese manufacturers are... peace and chicken grease matt np:WEtm_Antenna Tool and Die sessions --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-10-30 23:21Nick Zavriev> the only trance release i've picked up in the last year or so (and it's not > very recen

From:: Nick Zavriev <ambi@mu.ru>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 31 Oct 2000 02:21:10 +0300
Subject:: Re: [idm] people that think trance is techno

quoted 1 line the only trance release i've picked up in the last year or so (and it's

> the only trance release i've picked up in the last year or so (and it's

not

quoted 2 lines very recent at all, it might be over a year now that i think about it) was

> very recent at all, it might be over a year now that i think about it) was > Sasha's "Xpander" release on Ultra. i think it dodges the

trance-by-numbers

quoted 1 line stereotype and actually backs up his reputation to an extent as he

> stereotype and actually backs up his reputation to an extent as he

produced

quoted 1 line these tracks himself.

> these tracks himself.

I don't know about the other 3 tracks on this EP, but the 'Expander' track is made in colloboration with people formerly known as Spooky and it has moments very similar to Spooky's old hit "Little Bullet". Sasha's ability to produce music alone is still doubtful ;) By the way, is the loop on "Baja" really sampled from Ae's "Chiastic Slide"? Not as obvious Ae sampling as on ZZ Top track, but recognizable... Nick. NP: DEC - [313] soundtrack --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Re: [idm] people that think trance is techno