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2000-10-17 18:26esa ruohoany party by any large label is going to be disappointing, because of high expectations. t

From:: esa ruoho <esaruoho@dlc.fi>
To:: idm <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 21:26:44 +0300
Subject:: [idm] warp party vs. idm-list

any party by any large label is going to be disappointing, because of high expectations. try to enjoy the bits you can and ignore the rest, cos you're never going to be 100% satisfied. now, since idm-list seems to be the centerpoint of all whiners, moaners and pouters (which is STUPENDOUSLY obvious from the comments thrown around after _every_ release by _any_ major label _ever_), it is obvious that about 95% of you people went there just so you can flood idm-list with your complaints, and generally give as much disrespect as possible to the people responsible for the party, and warp itself. why did some of you fly over from the u.s. or wherver, if all you could do afterwards is write a whiney message? _nothing_ here is perfect. to insist that a party should suit to _your_ individual tastes is egoistic. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-10-17 19:05Wendy Khere here (as they say in parliament when they agree) :=) At 9:26 pm +0300 17/10/00, esa r

From:: Wendy K <wendy@ninjatune.net>
To:: esa ruoho <esaruoho@dlc.fi>, idm <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 20:05:50 +0100
Subject:: Re: [idm] warp party vs. idm-list
Reply to:: [idm] warp party vs. idm-list

here here (as they say in parliament when they agree) :=) At 9:26 pm +0300 17/10/00, esa ruoho wrote:

quoted 21 lines any party by any large label is going to be disappointing,

>any party by any large label is going to be disappointing, >because of high expectations. try to enjoy the bits you can and ignore >the rest, cos you're never going to be 100% satisfied. > >now, since idm-list seems to be the centerpoint of all whiners, >moaners and pouters (which is STUPENDOUSLY obvious from the comments >thrown around after _every_ release by _any_ major label _ever_), >it is obvious that about 95% of you people went there just so >you can flood idm-list with your complaints, and generally give >as much disrespect as possible to the people responsible for the >party, and warp itself. > >why did some of you fly over from the u.s. or wherver, if all you >could do afterwards is write a whiney message? > >_nothing_ here is perfect. to insist that a party should suit to _your_ >individual tastes is egoistic. > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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2000-10-18 01:02indecision_of_a_childOn Tue, 17 Oct 2000, esa ruoho wrote: > _nothing_ here is perfect. to insist that a party

From:: indecision_of_a_child <tofu@falco.kuci.uci.edu>
To:: esa ruoho <esaruoho@dlc.fi>
Cc:: idm <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 17 Oct 2000 18:02:24 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:: Re: [idm] warp party vs. idm-list
Reply to:: [idm] warp party vs. idm-list

On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, esa ruoho wrote:

quoted 2 lines _nothing_ here is perfect. to insist that a party should suit to _your_

> _nothing_ here is perfect. to insist that a party should suit to _your_ > individual tastes is egoistic.

perhaps these people should try throwing their own parties. then they can learn the fun of it all :) chris. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-10-18 10:12tomAt 18:02 17/10/00 -0700, you wrote: >On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, esa ruoho wrote: > > > _nothing_

From:: tom <tomagotchi@lineone.net>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 11:12:10 +0100
Subject:: Re: [idm] warp party vs. idm-list

At 18:02 17/10/00 -0700, you wrote:

quoted 7 lines On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, esa ruoho wrote:

>On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, esa ruoho wrote: > > > _nothing_ here is perfect. to insist that a party should suit to _your_ > > individual tastes is egoistic. > >perhaps these people should try throwing their own parties. >then they can learn the fun of it all :)

i do. give me 60 grand and i'll organise one hell of a party. tomx --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-10-18 11:58Wendy Ki dont know any independent label that's got that kind of money (pounds or dollars) to spl

From:: Wendy K <wendy@ninjatune.net>
To:: tom <tomagotchi@lineone.net>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:58:01 +0100
Subject:: Re: [idm] warp party vs. idm-list
Reply to:: Re: [idm] warp party vs. idm-list

i dont know any independent label that's got that kind of money (pounds or dollars) to splash on a party so if you got 60k you can throw one yourself.. At 11:12 am +0100 18/10/00, tom wrote:

quoted 8 lines i do. give me 60 grand and i'll organise one hell of a party.

> >i do. give me 60 grand and i'll organise one hell of a party. > > >tomx > > >-

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2000-10-18 12:42tomAt 12:58 18/10/00 +0100, you wrote: >i dont know any independent label that's got >that ki

From:: tom <tomagotchi@lineone.net>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 13:42:45 +0100
Subject:: Re: [idm] warp party vs. idm-list
Reply to:: Re: [idm] warp party vs. idm-list

At 12:58 18/10/00 +0100, you wrote:

quoted 4 lines i dont know any independent label that's got

>i dont know any independent label that's got >that kind of money (pounds or dollars) to splash >on a party so if you got 60k you can throw one >yourself..

well.. i was working on 20UKP / ticket... capacity 3000 event (according to the bumf warp sent me).. makes 60k unless i am very much mistaken..? i wish i did have 60k to throw a party and 3000 people to attend, but i don't. :( --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-10-18 14:20jeremy axon> >well.. i was working on 20UKP / ticket... capacity 3000 event >(according to the bumf w

From:: jeremy axon <jeremy@open.ca>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 10:20:49 -0400
Subject:: Re: [idm] warp's 60k
Reply to:: Re: [idm] warp party vs. idm-list

quoted 7 lines well.. i was working on 20UKP / ticket... capacity 3000 event

> >well.. i was working on 20UKP / ticket... capacity 3000 event >(according to the bumf warp sent me).. > >makes 60k unless i am very much mistaken..? i wish i did have 60k to >throw a party and 3000 people to attend, but i don't. :( >

that's after the party, their gross income. that's not necessarily how much they spent. -- -- jeremy axon www.objectools.com 243 college st. toronto, ontario, canada M5T 1R5 416.955.0856 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-10-18 23:18Medium Graham> >well.. i was working on 20UKP / ticket... capacity 3000 event > >(according to the bumf

From:: Medium Graham <medium_graham@yahoo.co.uk>
To:: Inebriated Dancing Monkeys <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Thu, 19 Oct 2000 00:18:48 +0100
Subject:: RE: [idm] warp's 60k
Reply to:: Re: [idm] warp's 60k

quoted 9 lines well.. i was working on 20UKP / ticket... capacity 3000 event

> >well.. i was working on 20UKP / ticket... capacity 3000 event > >(according to the bumf warp sent me).. > > > >makes 60k unless i am very much mistaken..? i wish i did have 60k to > >throw a party and 3000 people to attend, but i don't. :( > > > > that's after the party, their gross income. that's not necessarily > how much they spent.

Well, seeing as how it was a 'not for profit' gig...then the 60k they took in (plus the HUGE profit they were taking at the bar) must've gone straight into setting up the event. As it was, I didn't see anything like 60k+ worth of gig. G-love. http://www.gram.org.uk --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.176 / Virus Database: 85 - Release Date: 26/07/00 _________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.com address at http://mail.yahoo.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-10-19 04:41EggyToastAt 12:18 AM 10/19/2000 +0100, you wrote: > > >well.. i was working on 20UKP / ticket... ca

From:: EggyToast <youn0394@umn.edu>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 23:41:07 -0500
Subject:: RE: [idm] warp's 60k
Reply to:: RE: [idm] warp's 60k

At 12:18 AM 10/19/2000 +0100, you wrote:

quoted 14 lines well.. i was working on 20UKP / ticket... capacity 3000 event

> > >well.. i was working on 20UKP / ticket... capacity 3000 event > > >(according to the bumf warp sent me).. > > > > > >makes 60k unless i am very much mistaken..? i wish i did have 60k to > > >throw a party and 3000 people to attend, but i don't. :( > > > > > > > that's after the party, their gross income. that's not necessarily > > how much they spent. > >Well, seeing as how it was a 'not for profit' gig...then the 60k they took >in (plus the HUGE profit they were taking at the bar) must've gone straight >into setting up the event. As it was, I didn't see anything like 60k+ worth >of gig.

do you think the artists got paid at all? i would hope so... even if they did work for cheaper than usual since this is for warp... and i'm sure the venue gets the money from the bar.. not the promoter. i'm sure the majority of the money went for paying for the acts. unless autechre, boards of canada, the skam bunch, etc etc, enjoy playing for free, in which case can someone hook me up? cheers, /derek --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-10-18 11:10Ben Hatchelt>i do. give me 60 grand and i'll organise one hell of > a party. ...but if I go to your pa

From:: Ben Hatchelt <hatchelt@yahoo.co.uk>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:10:56 +0100 (BST)
Subject:: Re: [idm] warp party vs. idm-list

quoted 2 lines i do. give me 60 grand and i'll organise one hell of

>i do. give me 60 grand and i'll organise one hell of > a party.

...but if I go to your party thinking it'll be the best thing in the world and afterwards I'll be able to die happy, I'm sure to be disappointed...Daniel son. ===== --- http://www.peoplesound.com/artist/akabenhatchelt ____________________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Get your free @yahoo.co.uk address at http://mail.yahoo.co.uk or your free @yahoo.ie address at http://mail.yahoo.ie --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-10-18 11:38tomAt 12:10 18/10/00 +0100, you wrote: > >i do. give me 60 grand and i'll organise one hell o

From:: tom <tomagotchi@lineone.net>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 12:38:18 +0100
Subject:: Re: [idm] warp party vs. idm-list
Reply to:: Re: [idm] warp party vs. idm-list

At 12:10 18/10/00 +0100, you wrote:

quoted 6 lines i do. give me 60 grand and i'll organise one hell of

> >i do. give me 60 grand and i'll organise one hell of > > a party. > >...but if I go to your party thinking it'll be the >best thing in the world and afterwards I'll be able to >die happy, I'm sure to be disappointed...Daniel son.

yeah.. and you'd be even more disappointed if you had to wait an hour and a half for some ridiculous security check (put in place purely to massage the ego of the label organising the party, who i highly doubt are seeing revenue-loss through bootlegging of shows.. as the people wanting to listen to the bootlegs are likely to be those so obsessed with the music they're guaranteed to buy the records when they come out and they'll probably buy both formats!.. but anyway) which doesn't even work.. only to get inside my party to find you can't see a thing because someone has put a giant great wall in front of the stage (BUT IT's OK.. because my BEST friends get to sit behind the stage, where there is more space than anywhere else.. and where they've probably still got reserves of alcohol). so instead, you decide to fill my fat pocket with a bit more cash by buying one of my beers for 3 quid (me making approx 2 quid profit on it - but you only get one, because i can't work out how much beer to buy and get it totally wrong). so you go back inside my main room to discover your favourite act are on, you can't see, the sound is masked by disgusting bass frequencies bouncing off all the walls, and in the end you decide the best sound is actually outside. where it is cold. you'd be pretty disappointed then, wouldn't you? seriously: i am not saying the event was shit. and i am certainly not being hyper-critical because of my heightened excitement for this show.. not at all. i am point out, basic, fundamental problems with the event. these are not small problems which are like 'niggles' of mine, they are fuck off huge, very important problems with an event. i co-ordinate events myself (certainly not on this scale, but musical events nonetheless) and if i'd been in charge of organising this party, i'd be very embarrassed. tom x --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-10-18 13:16reim> _nothing_ here is perfect. to insist that a party should suit to _your_ > individual tas

From:: reim <reimie@bigfoot.com>
To:: ignorant dance music <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 15:16:25 +0200
Subject:: Re: [idm] warp party vs. idm-list

quoted 2 lines _nothing_ here is perfect. to insist that a party should suit to _your_

> _nothing_ here is perfect. to insist that a party should suit to _your_ > individual tastes is egoistic.

in that case every review would be egoistic, because that's what always happens. compare with your individual taste. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-10-18 13:50Simon Walley>From: tom <tomagotchi@lineone.net> >Subject: Re: [idm] warp party vs. idm-list > >yeah..

From:: Simon Walley <cim_@hotmail.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Wed, 18 Oct 2000 13:50:48 GMT
Subject:: Re: [idm] warp party vs. idm-list

quoted 6 lines From: tom <tomagotchi@lineone.net>

>From: tom <tomagotchi@lineone.net> >Subject: Re: [idm] warp party vs. idm-list > >yeah.. and you'd be even more disappointed if you had to wait an hour and a >half for some ridiculous security check (put in place purely to massage the >ego of the label organising the party,

AFAIK, the venue owns the security equipment so it was available to be used - it was not put in place externally. Also, AFAIK, it was used at the request of a number of the artists playing who didn't want their sets recorded. Sure, I'm guessing Warp probably aren't keen on people taping the shows but they are not acting over the heads of their artists. In the same way, the third Warp 10 party was not netcast and archived like the other two because it was requested by the artists that it not be. || [CiM] || cim@headspacerecordings.co.uk || cim@defocusrecords.co.uk _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. Share information about yourself, create your own public profile at http://profiles.msn.com. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org