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RE: [idm] re: friedman (was re: clayton)

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2000-10-16 21:24Philip Sherburne [idm] re: friedman (was re: clayton)
└─ 2000-10-16 21:31Ryan Heard RE: [idm] re: friedman (was re: clayton)
2000-10-17 09:20Petter RE: [idm] re: friedman (was re: clayton)
2000-10-18 00:09Philip Sherburne RE: [idm] re: friedman (was re: clayton)
└─ 2000-10-18 14:32Josh Davison RE: [idm] re: friedman (was re: clayton)
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2000-10-16 21:24Philip Sherburne>now that mr clayton has been discussed at length, can someone shed >some light upon mr bu
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Mon, 16 Oct 2000 14:24:32 -0700
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[idm] re: friedman (was re: clayton)
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quoted 4 lines now that mr clayton has been discussed at length, can someone shed>now that mr clayton has been discussed at length, can someone shed >some light upon mr burnt friedman's set-up and sound? chris dropped >some vague hints which made it sound like it was good, but can >someone give up some details?
funny you should ask, jeremy - pole, friedman and jelinek (gramm/farben) will be broadcast live tonight, beginning around 8 or 9 p.m. Pacific Time (US). and it will be archived subsequently, in case you can't turn in tonight. www.betalounge.com -phil --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-10-16 21:31Ryan HeardWhen i saw Friedmann "perform" he mixed with a small mixer and what looked like 5 Minidisc
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Mon, 16 Oct 2000 14:31:06 -0700
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When i saw Friedmann "perform" he mixed with a small mixer and what looked like 5 Minidisc players (perhaps dat.. couldn't see). Probably MD though... Ryan Heard -----Original Message----- From: Philip Sherburne [mailto:philip@askjeeves.com] Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 2:25 PM To: 'idm@hyperreal.org'; 'jeremy@open.ca' Subject: [idm] re: friedman (was re: clayton)
quoted 4 lines now that mr clayton has been discussed at length, can someone shed>now that mr clayton has been discussed at length, can someone shed >some light upon mr burnt friedman's set-up and sound? chris dropped >some vague hints which made it sound like it was good, but can >someone give up some details?
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2000-10-17 09:20PetterWhen I saw him play in Sweden last year, it was definitely MD. --- Ryan Heard <ryan@ryanhe
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When I saw him play in Sweden last year, it was definitely MD. --- Ryan Heard <ryan@ryanheard.com> wrote:
quoted 24 lines When i saw Friedmann "perform" he mixed with a small> When i saw Friedmann "perform" he mixed with a small > mixer and what looked > like 5 Minidisc players (perhaps dat.. couldn't > see). Probably MD though... > > Ryan Heard > > -----Original Message----- > From: Philip Sherburne [mailto:philip@askjeeves.com] > Sent: Monday, October 16, 2000 2:25 PM > To: 'idm@hyperreal.org'; 'jeremy@open.ca' > Subject: [idm] re: friedman (was re: clayton) > > > >now that mr clayton has been discussed at length, > can someone shed > >some light upon mr burnt friedman's set-up and > sound? chris dropped > >some vague hints which made it sound like it was > good, but can > >someone give up some details? > > >
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2000-10-18 00:09Philip Sherburne--- Ryan Heard <ryan@ryanheard.com> wrote: > When i saw Friedmann "perform" he mixed with
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Tue, 17 Oct 2000 17:09:34 -0700
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--- Ryan Heard <ryan@ryanheard.com> wrote:
quoted 4 lines When i saw Friedmann "perform" he mixed with a small> When i saw Friedmann "perform" he mixed with a small > mixer and what looked > like 5 Minidisc players (perhaps dat.. couldn't > see). Probably MD though...
Right, that's exactly what he's been doing - mixing anywhere between 5 and 10 MD players, running MDs of tracks he's done before hand. I can't tell if by Ryan's scare-quotes he thinks that doesn't qualify as a performance, but in my opinion, it's worlds away from simply hitting the play button on a DAT. I've seen him do it three times now (once in Barcelona, twice in SF) and every time it's been totally compelling, unpredictable, musical as fuck, funky, not to mention risky - there are times when it verges on collapsing, and he pulls it back. I think people forget how important the aspect of risk is in live performance. In my opinion, what Friedmann is doing isn't at all "performing" - it's performing, playing, rocking out, and doing it masterfully. (apologies, Ryan, if i misread your quotation marks...) -phil --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-10-18 14:32Josh Davisonsaw him pull this off last night, it was definitely engaging ... i mean the music is inter
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Wed, 18 Oct 2000 09:32:41 -0500 (CDT)
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saw him pull this off last night, it was definitely engaging ... i mean the music is interesting enough that i don't need a pile of gear to enthrall the trainspotter in me... great show overall: farben, friedman and pole ... der Deutsche Diskoexpress i gotta say you know you are seeing something special when you can get the usually motionless chicago scenesters dancing. numerous props to all involved in bringing this lineup to chicago (mike javor et al) later josh -- String Theory : Digital Music for Humans http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi On Tue, 17 Oct 2000, Philip Sherburne wrote:
quoted 32 lines --- Ryan Heard <ryan@ryanheard.com> wrote:> --- Ryan Heard <ryan@ryanheard.com> wrote: > > When i saw Friedmann "perform" he mixed with a small > > mixer and what looked > > like 5 Minidisc players (perhaps dat.. couldn't > > see). Probably MD though... > > Right, that's exactly what he's been doing - mixing anywhere between 5 and > 10 MD players, running MDs of tracks he's done before hand. I can't tell if > by Ryan's scare-quotes he thinks that doesn't qualify as a performance, but > in my opinion, it's worlds away from simply hitting the play button on a > DAT. I've seen him do it three times now (once in Barcelona, twice in SF) > and every time it's been totally compelling, unpredictable, musical as fuck, > funky, not to mention risky - there are times when it verges on collapsing, > and he pulls it back. I think people forget how important the aspect of > risk is in live performance. > > In my opinion, what Friedmann is doing isn't at all "performing" - it's > performing, playing, rocking out, and doing it masterfully. > > (apologies, Ryan, if i misread your quotation marks...) > > -phil > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >
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