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2000-09-26 22:58Mark StevensHello. Anyone else out there had any disc rot problems with Chain Reaction titles? I just

From:: Mark Stevens <mark@headspin.clara.net>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 23:58:54 +0100
Subject:: [idm] Chain Reaction disc rot?

Hello. Anyone else out there had any disc rot problems with Chain Reaction titles? I just whipped out my Vladislav Delay "Multila" and Monolake "Hong Kong" to find patches of discolouring on the surface of the discs. It doesn't appear to have affected play, but those patches definitely weren't there last time I looked at them earlier this year. -- Mark Stevens http://www.headspin.clara.net/ --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-09-26 23:55componentonly on Various Artist's 'Decay Product' ;) -sorry couldn't resist Rob component records w

From:: component <component@mindstorm.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Tue, 26 Sep 2000 19:55:33 -0400
Subject:: Re: [idm] Chain Reaction disc rot?

only on Various Artist's 'Decay Product' ;) -sorry couldn't resist Rob component records www.mindstorm.com/component ----- Original Message ----- From: Mark Stevens <mark@headspin.clara.net> To: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 6:58 PM Subject: [idm] Chain Reaction disc rot?

quoted 18 lines Hello.

> Hello. > > Anyone else out there had any disc rot problems with Chain Reaction > titles? I just whipped out my Vladislav Delay "Multila" and Monolake > "Hong Kong" to find patches of discolouring on the surface of the > discs. It doesn't appear to have affected play, but those patches > definitely weren't there last time I looked at them earlier this year. > > > -- > Mark Stevens > > http://www.headspin.clara.net/ > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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2000-09-27 02:00Mikhail ZabaluevHello, component On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 19:55 -0400, component wrote: > > only on Various

From:: Mikhail Zabaluev <mookid@sigent.ru>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 06:00:59 +0400
Subject:: Re: [idm] Chain Reaction disc rot?
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Hello, component On Tue, Sep 26, 2000 at 19:55 -0400, component wrote:

quoted 3 lines only on Various Artist's 'Decay Product' ;)

> > only on Various Artist's 'Decay Product' ;) > -sorry couldn't resist

This has become a nice legend: Chain Reaction CDs made decaying on purpose. (Heh, then my CD-R copies will outlive them)

quoted 14 lines ----- Original Message -----

> ----- Original Message ----- > From: Mark Stevens <mark@headspin.clara.net> > To: <idm@hyperreal.org> > Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2000 6:58 PM > Subject: [idm] Chain Reaction disc rot? > > > > Hello. > > > > Anyone else out there had any disc rot problems with Chain Reaction > > titles? I just whipped out my Vladislav Delay "Multila" and Monolake > > "Hong Kong" to find patches of discolouring on the surface of the > > discs. It doesn't appear to have affected play, but those patches > > definitely weren't there last time I looked at them earlier this year.

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2000-09-27 18:22Irene McC> Monolake > > "Hong Kong" to find patches of discolouring on the > surface of the > > dis

From:: Irene McC <substar@iafrica.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 20:22:21 +0200
Subject:: Re: [idm] Chain Reaction disc rot?
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quoted 2 lines Monolake > > "Hong Kong" to find patches of discolouring on the

> Monolake > > "Hong Kong" to find patches of discolouring on the > surface of the > > discs.

My monolake's fine, thank goodness... but mind those horrid boxes!! Be warned : repack in plastic jewel cases for safekeeping to avoid cracks. It's been said before, but bears repeating. These things are designed to self-destruct. I * --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-09-27 19:56DruscaI don't think the CR/BC/M packaging is that big of a deal. I've owned a bunch of those CDs

From:: Drusca <andrei@world.std.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 15:56:17 -0400
Subject:: Re: [idm] Chain Reaction disc rot?
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I don't think the CR/BC/M packaging is that big of a deal. I've owned a bunch of those CDs for years and I haven't had/seen any problems. You just have to be careful, like when you're pulling them out of the case, otherwise I don't see how the cases can be damaging to the CDs. I do have a friend whose Porter Ricks CD basically broke in 2 though. I think that happened from pulling on the sides of the CD too forcefully while the middle section wouldn't come loose from the case. Andrei On Wed, 27 Sep 2000, Irene McC wrote:

quoted 12 lines Monolake > > "Hong Kong" to find patches of discolouring on the

> > Monolake > > "Hong Kong" to find patches of discolouring on the > > surface of the > > discs. > > My monolake's fine, thank goodness... but mind those horrid boxes!! > Be warned : repack in plastic jewel cases for safekeeping to avoid > cracks. > > It's been said before, but bears repeating. These things are > designed to self-destruct. > > I > *

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2000-09-27 20:31Ed HallDrusca <andrei@world.std.com> wrote: > I don't think the CR/BC/M packaging is that big of

From:: Ed Hall <edhall@screech.weirdnoise.com>
To:: Inactivity Demeans Musicality <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Wed, 27 Sep 2000 13:31:08 -0700
Subject:: Re: [idm] Chain Reaction disc rot?
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Drusca <andrei@world.std.com> wrote:

quoted 2 lines I don't think the CR/BC/M packaging is that big of a deal. I've owned a

> I don't think the CR/BC/M packaging is that big of a deal. I've owned a > bunch of those CDs for years and I haven't had/seen any problems.

You've been exceptionally lucky. However cool those cases may look, their design is shear idiocy: relying of the flexibility of the CD to hold it to an inflexible metal post puts an enormous amount of stress on it. The disc-distroying properties of these cases has been reported here on many occasions, and I've personally had two discs irretrievably damaged by storage in these cases. The center post in these cases varies a bit in size -- I've seen some where the disk just slips off, and others where the fit was so tight that the disk arrived with a major crack. Jewel cases are cheap, while some of the CR disks are nearly impossible to find these days. I've moved all my CR CD's to the latter... -Ed --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-09-28 15:10John D.By a happy coincidence, just as all this CR CD talk is going on, the weirdo computer-chain

From:: John D. <jdalton@mail.net.tw>
To:: Inactivity Demeans Musicality <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 23:10:56 +0800
Subject:: Re: [idm] Chain Reaction recommendations?

By a happy coincidence, just as all this CR CD talk is going on, the weirdo computer-chain-store-turned-CD-shop across from my work got practically the entire CR catalog in except for the two compilation disks, which I have already. I know this has been talked about before, but anyone have any recs. before I start diving in? My favorite tracks are 1 on the BC comp and the last porter ricks track on Compiled. How is Multila? Thanks, John --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-09-29 19:59Jason Birchmeier> By a happy coincidence, just as all this CR CD talk is going on, > the weirdo > computer

From:: Jason Birchmeier <jasbir@allmusic.com>
To:: John D. <jdalton@mail.net.tw>, Inactivity Demeans Musicality <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 15:59:13 -0400
Subject:: RE: [idm] Chain Reaction recommendations?
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quoted 8 lines By a happy coincidence, just as all this CR CD talk is going on,

> By a happy coincidence, just as all this CR CD talk is going on, > the weirdo > computer-chain-store-turned-CD-shop across from my work got > practically the > entire CR catalog in except for the two compilation disks, which I have > already. I know this has been talked about before, but anyone > have any recs. > before I start diving in?

I really don't think you can go wrong with any of them, but if I had to recommend any, I'd say check out the Monolake. I'm also a huge fan of the Vainqueur, but that record's very minimal and droning -- many songs dismiss the need for beats. The Matrix and Fluxion records have a nice assortment of tracks. I still think the earlier artists on the label -- monolake, vainqueur, substance, porter ricks, various artists -- tended to make the more experimental/uncanny sounds. After that you get the Vladislave Delay-style stuff -- more clicky and beat-driven. The Hallucinator stuff has some great moments and also some lackluster tracks; I'd check that one out too. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-09-29 20:34DruscaYou shouldn't live without the Various Artists and Porter Ricks CDs. Amazing sound design

From:: Drusca <andrei@world.std.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Fri, 29 Sep 2000 16:34:21 -0400
Subject:: RE: [idm] Chain Reaction recommendations?
Reply to:: RE: [idm] Chain Reaction recommendations?

You shouldn't live without the Various Artists and Porter Ricks CDs. Amazing sound design on both of those. Very rich, textured and womb-like sound. Personally I found the Vainqueur to be one of the less interesting ones. Kinda dry. And out of the more recent batch (CRD 07-11) I think only the Delay is really worth spending some time with, but I haven't heard the new Fluxion. Two other closely related things which I'd highly recommend are the Rhythm & Sound w/ Tikiman "Showcase" cd on Burial Mix for some really blunted dub-house with & without ragga vocals and the Basic Channel comp which has some amazing tracks from the BC catalogue on it plus a few tracks only available on the CD. The Maurizio comp on M/Maurizio is also very nice, but more housey you could say. Andrei On Fri, 29 Sep 2000, Jason Birchmeier wrote:

quoted 27 lines By a happy coincidence, just as all this CR CD talk is going on,

> > By a happy coincidence, just as all this CR CD talk is going on, > > the weirdo > > computer-chain-store-turned-CD-shop across from my work got > > practically the > > entire CR catalog in except for the two compilation disks, which I have > > already. I know this has been talked about before, but anyone > > have any recs. > > before I start diving in? > > I really don't think you can go wrong with any of them, but if I had to > recommend any, I'd say check out the Monolake. I'm also a huge fan of the > Vainqueur, but that record's very minimal and droning -- many songs dismiss > the need for beats. The Matrix and Fluxion records have a nice assortment > of tracks. > > I still think the earlier artists on the label -- monolake, vainqueur, > substance, porter ricks, various artists -- tended to make the more > experimental/uncanny sounds. After that you get the Vladislave Delay-style > stuff -- more clicky and beat-driven. The Hallucinator stuff has some great > moments and also some lackluster tracks; I'd check that one out too. > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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2000-09-28 15:14componentExcellent. A bit more ambient than some of the other CR discs but has some use of beats. R

From:: component <component@mindstorm.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Thu, 28 Sep 2000 11:14:43 -0400
Subject:: Re: [idm] Chain Reaction recommendations?

Excellent. A bit more ambient than some of the other CR discs but has some use of beats. Rob! component records www.mindstorm.com/component ----- Original Message ----- From: John D. <jdalton@mail.net.tw> To: Inactivity Demeans Musicality <idm@hyperreal.com> Sent: Thursday, September 28, 2000 11:10 AM Subject: Re: [idm] Chain Reaction recommendations?

quoted 1 line By a happy coincidence, just as all this CR CD talk is going on, the

> By a happy coincidence, just as all this CR CD talk is going on, the

weirdo

quoted 1 line computer-chain-store-turned-CD-shop across from my work got practically

> computer-chain-store-turned-CD-shop across from my work got practically

the

quoted 2 lines entire CR catalog in except for the two compilation disks, which I have

> entire CR catalog in except for the two compilation disks, which I have > already. I know this has been talked about before, but anyone have any

recs.

quoted 12 lines before I start diving in? My favorite tracks are 1 on the BC comp and the

> before I start diving in? My favorite tracks are 1 on the BC comp and the > last porter ricks track on Compiled. How is Multila? > > Thanks, > > John > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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