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hey there, I'm trying to find out the name of an artist that uses chopped up voice samples, not really saying anything just ahs and ohs and stuff, no beats or anything but i think it might still be rhythmic, kind of sporadic though...anyone have any idea? all help greatly appreciated... thanks, mike The People Under the Stairs www.underthestairs.cjb.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

there's a cool V/A cd called "Porn Beats" on dust2dust that does a lot of this. Electronic (idm?) underneath well-sampled porn...some are raucous and make you smile, some are subtle and beautiful...the LHB and Shrink2Fit tracks are standouts for me. Anyway, other tracks from Mike Flowers, the Mellowtrons and Danmass... www.dust2dust.demon.co.uk or, for some RA clips, http://www.importcds.com/acb/showdetl.cfm?&User_ID=96185&St=6395&St2=-240715 920&St3=482544100&DS_ID=2&DID=6&Product_ID=257852 ---brian ------------------------ Brian W. Gause Senior Technical Writer SECTORBASE.com 568 Howard Street First Floor San Francisco, CA 94105 Direct: (415) 365-8203 Fax: (415) 365-8263 -----Original Message----- From: EggyToast [mailto:youn0394@umn.edu] Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 4:10 PM To: Mike Baugh; idm Subject: Re: [idm] chopped up voices

quoted 6 lines hey there,

>hey there, > >I'm trying to find out the name of an artist that uses chopped up voice >samples, not really saying anything just ahs and ohs and stuff, no beats or >anything but i think it might still be rhythmic, kind of sporadic >though...anyone have any idea? all help greatly appreciated...

well, some (most?) of scanner's stuff is like that, although that tends to be more rhythmic (i think...).. autechre's ccec does that too, but i'm pretty sure that's not it. boards of canada uses chopped up nonsense voice samples a lot but they use a lot of beats... i know there's more but that's all i can think of. -derek --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 6 lines hey there,

>hey there, > >I'm trying to find out the name of an artist that uses chopped up voice >samples, not really saying anything just ahs and ohs and stuff, no beats or >anything but i think it might still be rhythmic, kind of sporadic >though...anyone have any idea? all help greatly appreciated...

well, some (most?) of scanner's stuff is like that, although that tends to be more rhythmic (i think...).. autechre's ccec does that too, but i'm pretty sure that's not it. boards of canada uses chopped up nonsense voice samples a lot but they use a lot of beats... i know there's more but that's all i can think of. -derek --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Has anyone mentioned Nobukazu Takemura? If not, he does this very well, and worth checking out. His remix of Steve Reich is very good, and the album scope is as well... -mATT- -----Original Message----- From: EggyToast [mailto:youn0394@umn.edu] Sent: Monday, August 14, 2000 4:10 PM To: Mike Baugh; idm Subject: Re: [idm] chopped up voices

quoted 6 lines hey there,

>hey there, > >I'm trying to find out the name of an artist that uses chopped up voice >samples, not really saying anything just ahs and ohs and stuff, no beats or >anything but i think it might still be rhythmic, kind of sporadic >though...anyone have any idea? all help greatly appreciated...

well, some (most?) of scanner's stuff is like that, although that tends to be more rhythmic (i think...).. autechre's ccec does that too, but i'm pretty sure that's not it. boards of canada uses chopped up nonsense voice samples a lot but they use a lot of beats... i know there's more but that's all i can think of. -derek --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 2 lines Bobby McFerrin?

>Bobby McFerrin? >;)

nah, he just recorded his voice into the different tracks and played them back as loops.. like you'd do in a sampler. i don't think he was too into the avant garde then to actually consider chopping his voice up. i should know this stuff; he teaches at the university i attend =)

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>(smily is unfortunately necessary on this flammable list)

:) :) :) -derek --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Autechre's EP7. Although as far back as Incunabula you can see vocal snippets popping up ("the noise.. the noise" sample in "low ride"). Plug Research's "voices in my lunchbox" series.. I think they have the 12"ches compiled on a CD with a few bonus tracks. Old farts like Reich and Luciano Berio ("thema omaggio a joyce"). Almost every artist and their brother uses little chopped bits of voices up as percussion. (with varying degrees of success) The list is probably ridiculously long. Andrew -- -| Andrew Schrock | aschrock@cs.brandeis.edu |- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Hi, could it possibly be Paul Lansky...? He teaches at the university *I* attend. :) Oh, and I know there have already been a lot of responses on this thread, but we poor digest kids get things a bit slower, ya know? --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

you wrote: Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 16:56:05 -0600 To: "idm" <idm@hyperreal.org> From: "Mike Baugh" <meek@home.com> Subject: chopped up voices Message-ID: <000101c00642$d68f5620$304c4018@CS147358-B.cgws1.ab.wave.home.com> hey there, I'm trying to find out the name of an artist that uses chopped up voice samples, not really saying anything just ahs and ohs and stuff, no beats or anything but i think it might still be rhythmic, kind of sporadic though...anyone have any idea? all help greatly appreciated... thanks, mike The People Under the Stairs www.underthestairs.cjb.net

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I reply: this could potentially be either Morton Subotnick's "Touch" from ~1969 which used heavy treatments from the Buchla and various tape devices... where he develops rhythmic patterns out of phonemes to generate motion.. or, it could be something from Steve Reich from around the same time frame. http://www.newalbion.com/artists/subotnickm/ http://www.newalbion.com/artists/labarbaraj/ <-- Joan Labarbara, vocalist that worked with good 'ole Mort. if it sounds more recent, I would suspect either The Black Dog [TBD/BDP] from the Spanners era of music, or potentially Gescom's DanFive/SciewSpoc/ Cicada/??? SKAM 003[?] ep on SKAM. But that has too many drums in it to fit your postulate.. in any case, all of this stuff is worth checking, even if it really wasn't what you were looking for.. +odd -- Todd Sines icq: 11117580 SCALE:form | image | sound http://www.scalestudio.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

BOards of Canada DOm!!!! Mike Baugh wrote:

quoted 18 lines hey there,

> > hey there, > > I'm trying to find out the name of an artist that uses chopped up voice > samples, not really saying anything just ahs and ohs and stuff, no beats or > anything but i think it might still be rhythmic, kind of sporadic > though...anyone have any idea? all help greatly appreciated... > > thanks, > > mike > > The People Under the Stairs > www.underthestairs.cjb.net > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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The name of the artists is Twine. The track is called voices: http://www.mp3.com/twine Peace, Chad Mossholder Twine/Twinesound Audio Productions ???????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? http://www.personal.kent.edu/~mmercer/twine http://www.heftyrecords.com twinesound@hotmail.com ????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????

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>From: sines@hyperreal.org >Reply-To: sines@scalestudio.com >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: Re: [idm] chopped up voices >Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 23:41:17 -0700 (PDT) > >you wrote: > >Date: Mon, 14 Aug 2000 16:56:05 -0600 >To: "idm" <idm@hyperreal.org> >From: "Mike Baugh" <meek@home.com> >Subject: chopped up voices >Message-ID: ><000101c00642$d68f5620$304c4018@CS147358-B.cgws1.ab.wave.home.com> > >hey there, > >I'm trying to find out the name of an artist that uses chopped up voice >samples, not really saying anything just ahs and ohs and stuff, no beats or >anything but i think it might still be rhythmic, kind of sporadic >though...anyone have any idea? all help greatly appreciated... > >thanks, > >mike > >The People Under the Stairs >www.underthestairs.cjb.net > > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> > >I reply: > >this could potentially be either Morton Subotnick's "Touch" from ~1969 >which used heavy treatments from the Buchla and various tape devices... >where he develops rhythmic patterns out of phonemes to generate motion.. > >or, > >it could be something from Steve Reich from around the same time frame. > >http://www.newalbion.com/artists/subotnickm/ >http://www.newalbion.com/artists/labarbaraj/ <-- Joan Labarbara, vocalist >that worked with good 'ole Mort. > >if it sounds more recent, I would suspect either The Black Dog [TBD/BDP] >from the Spanners era of music, or potentially Gescom's DanFive/SciewSpoc/ >Cicada/??? SKAM 003[?] ep on SKAM. But that has too many drums in it to fit >your postulate.. > >in any case, all of this stuff is worth checking, even if it really wasn't >what you were looking for.. > > >+odd >-- >Todd Sines >icq: 11117580 >SCALE:form | image | sound >http://www.scalestudio.com > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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In a message dated 8/14/00 10:37:31 PM, aschrock@cs.brandeis.edu writes: << Old farts like Reich and Luciano Berio ("thema omaggio a joyce"). >> There were many artists working with text long before Reich and Berio. The genre goes under names like "sound poetry" , "text sound" and " poesie sonore" etc. mediadrome --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

at the risk of being flamed, i'm gonna toss out a name here: KID606 on his split 12" has a few nice tracks of vocal samples. and some muslimgauze has that kind of stuff. -- -- jeremy axon open communications 34 ross street toronto ON Canada t: 416.955.1393 f: 416.955.1398 www.open.ca --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Nobukazu Takemura..........Scope Child's View not sure if he's been mentioned.....plus the female voice whom he collabs with recently had her disk released on Jim O'Rourkes Moikai label.... hope this helps. J Mash --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

that is an excellent release!

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>From: Jmash789@cs.com >To: idm@hyperreal.org >Subject: [idm] RE: chopped up voices >Date: Tue, 15 Aug 2000 15:02:01 EDT > > >Nobukazu Takemura..........Scope >Child's View > >not sure if he's been mentioned.....plus the female voice whom he collabs >with recently had her disk released on Jim O'Rourkes Moikai label.... >hope this helps. > >J Mash > >--------------------------------------------------------------------- >To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org >For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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i think that the little fluffly clouds loop you are talking about might actually be a sample from the piece. i never a-b'ed them but it would not be unheard of for an electronic musician to sample a "loop" from a "recording" ;) jsh -- String Theory : Digital Music for Humans http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Ben Knowles wrote:

quoted 20 lines i heard something last night that would fit the bill: steve reich -

> i heard something last night that would fit the bill: steve reich - > "different trains." it's the kronos string quartet playing over looped > taped samples of voices and train whistles. interesting listening. > > even better is "electric counterpoint" on the same cd, performed by pat > methany (guitar) with his taped self about 10 times. no vocals here, just > great stuff - equally melodic and rhythmic. and most interestingly, the > last (fast) movement sounds exactly like one of the synth parts from > little fluffy clouds. i mean... whoa. so much so that i checked the orb cd > for a credit to reich. i'm convinced this is a non-so-subtle plagiarism by > the good dr. patterson. anyone agree? has this been mentioned before? > > -nub > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > >

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quoted 4 lines i think that the little fluffly clouds loop you are talking about might

> i think that the little fluffly clouds loop you are talking about might > actually be a sample from the piece. i never a-b'ed them but it would not > be unheard of for an electronic musician to sample a "loop" from a > "recording" ;)

i checked. it's not. the little fluffy clouds version is obviously electronic in origin (ie. bleepy) and far simpler - texturally speaking a rather poor substitute for the layers upon layers of guitar on the original. but man, as far as melody and the chord change, it's really damn close. -nub --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Yeah, just to confirm... Little Fluffy Clouds does sample Electric Counterpoint by Reich (and Metheny, playing the guitar) d.kearley@home.com www.mp3.com/kearley Great Electronic Music from Kearley! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Josh Davison" <yoshi@enteract.com> To: "Ben Knowles" <knowles@Colorado.EDU> Cc: <idm@hyperreal.org> Sent: Wednesday, August 16, 2000 10:18 AM Subject: Re: [idm] chopped up voices

quoted 20 lines i think that the little fluffly clouds loop you are talking about might

> i think that the little fluffly clouds loop you are talking about might > actually be a sample from the piece. i never a-b'ed them but it would not > be unheard of for an electronic musician to sample a "loop" from a > "recording" ;) > > jsh > > -- > String Theory : Digital Music for Humans > http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi > > > On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Ben Knowles wrote: > > > i heard something last night that would fit the bill: steve reich - > > "different trains." it's the kronos string quartet playing over looped > > taped samples of voices and train whistles. interesting listening. > > > > even better is "electric counterpoint" on the same cd, performed by pat > > methany (guitar) with his taped self about 10 times. no vocals here,

just

quoted 3 lines great stuff - equally melodic and rhythmic. and most interestingly, the

> > great stuff - equally melodic and rhythmic. and most interestingly, the > > last (fast) movement sounds exactly like one of the synth parts from > > little fluffy clouds. i mean... whoa. so much so that i checked the orb

cd

quoted 1 line for a credit to reich. i'm convinced this is a non-so-subtle plagiarism

> > for a credit to reich. i'm convinced this is a non-so-subtle plagiarism

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quoted 16 lines the good dr. patterson. anyone agree? has this been mentioned before?

> > the good dr. patterson. anyone agree? has this been mentioned before? > > > > -nub > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org > > > > > > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >

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Hexstatic new lp called Rewind is out Monday 21st - There is a track on there called "Deadly Media" and chops up a series of voices until it reaches a completely mad crescendo. You might want to check their website, 2. http://www.hexstatic.co.uk

quoted 38 lines Yeah, just to confirm... Little Fluffy Clouds does sample Electric

>Yeah, just to confirm... Little Fluffy Clouds does sample Electric >Counterpoint by Reich (and Metheny, playing the guitar) > > >d.kearley@home.com > > > > i think that the little fluffly clouds loop you are talking about might > > actually be a sample from the piece. i never a-b'ed them but it would not > > be unheard of for an electronic musician to sample a "loop" from a > > "recording" ;) > > > > jsh > > > > -- > > String Theory : Digital Music for Humans > > http://www.enteract.com/~yoshi/index.cgi > > > > > > On Wed, 16 Aug 2000, Ben Knowles wrote: > > > > > i heard something last night that would fit the bill: steve reich - > > > "different trains." it's the kronos string quartet playing over looped > > > taped samples of voices and train whistles. interesting listening. > > > > > > even better is "electric counterpoint" on the same cd, performed by pat > > > methany (guitar) with his taped self about 10 times. no vocals here, >just > > > great stuff - equally melodic and rhythmic. and most interestingly, the > > > last (fast) movement sounds exactly like one of the synth parts from > > > little fluffy clouds. i mean... whoa. so much so that i checked the orb >cd > > > for a credit to reich. i'm convinced this is a non-so-subtle plagiarism >by > > > the good dr. patterson. anyone agree? has this been mentioned before? > > > > > > -nub > > >

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quoted 3 lines Has anyone mentioned Nobukazu Takemura? If not, he does this very well, and

>Has anyone mentioned Nobukazu Takemura? If not, he does this very well, and >worth checking out. His remix of Steve Reich is very good, and the album >scope is as well...

yeah, the beginning of the steve reich remix is *exactly* the sound i was thinking of, is there any more stuff like this? is scope really similar to this, i love the way it sounds... thanks, mike The People Under the Stairs www.underthestairs.cjb.net --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

quoted 3 lines yeah, the beginning of the steve reich remix is *exactly* the sound i was

>yeah, the beginning of the steve reich remix is *exactly* the sound i was >thinking of, is there any more stuff like this? is scope really similar to >this, i love the way it sounds...

This might tickle your fancy; http://www.soundout.net/artists/Front%20End%20Synthetics/Trev%20-%203%20Fat% 20Ladies.MP3 /J. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org