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Picked up this record yesterday. 3rd Eye Music, A.R.T Records 1992 a1. Balil - Nort Route (Black Dog) b1. Future/Past - Clinically Inclined (Kirk Degiorgio) b2. Esoterik - Interiors (Kirk Degiorgio) My question is this: have i stumbled upon a lost jem in the used bin or is this just some old junk? it sounds nice enough and im stoked to have old black dog stuff. i know the art 2 compilation is much sought after and so i wonder if this slab has any value. many thanks. Justes / http://www.staticbeats.com / Music for the Mind | Music for the Soul \ Ambient | Techno | Jungle | Electronica \ Live Streaming M-F 10am - 8pm \ Real Audio Archives 1995 - 2000 --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, DJ Justes wrote:

quoted 11 lines Picked up this record yesterday.

> Picked up this record yesterday. > 3rd Eye Music, A.R.T Records 1992 > a1. Balil - Nort Route (Black Dog) > b1. Future/Past - Clinically Inclined (Kirk Degiorgio) > b2. Esoterik - Interiors (Kirk Degiorgio) > > My question is this: have i stumbled upon a lost jem in the used bin or > is this just some old junk? it sounds nice enough and im stoked to have > old black dog stuff. i know the art 2 compilation is much sought after > and so i wonder if this slab has any value. >

The one you've found is the Planet E version of ART1. As far as I've heard (this could be a wholly insubstantial rumour, so don't take my word for it :) Carl Craig and Kirk DeGiorgio made some sort of a deal that Planet E would release A.R.T. domestically in the US and in exchange there would be Planet E material released on A.R.T. in the UK. This produced PEART1 on Planet E, the one you have, and Craig's Psyche/BFC EP (ART3) on A.R.T. But, there are three different versions of ART1: the original one (A.R.T. ART1 12" 1991/2?) with the track listing Balil: Nort Route (remix) Atypic: Blah Future/Past: Clinically Inclined (remix) As One: Amalia and the Planet E one (Planet E PEART1 12" 1992) Balil: Nort Route Future/Past: Clinically Inclined Esoterik: Interiors _and_ finally, the R&S version, (R&S Records RS92010 12" 1992) as Future/Past: ART 1 EP (of which I don't have a track listing because I don't have that one, I have only the A.R.T. and Planet E versions - but the R&S version does have a different track listing so I'd like to have that one, too :). And of course there's the 4x12" compilation of the first four A.R.T. releases, Objets d'A.R.T. on New Electronica (ELEC9LP, 1994) that has a repress of the original ART1 (allegedly from the same plates, even). From my point of view, you have found a pearl (unless Planet E has started repressing their back catalogue). And yes, Nort Route is probably one of the best Balil tracks right after Choke And Fly (on ART2.2). Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about anything so that I'll have something more to obsess about, especially the exchange between Planet E and A.R.T. Cheers, -- nuutti-iivari meriläinen gordon at diversion dot org http colon slash slash www dot diversion dot org slash --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

Dont Take My word for it Nuut, but I think U have your hands on an ancient artifact.........rest assured that its not junk.......well, not me it aint! O! -----Original Message----- From: Nuutti-Iivari Meriläinen [mailto:gordon@populo.vip.fi] Sent: Tuesday, July 25, 2000 2:36 PM To: idm@hyperreal.org Subject: Re: [idm] request 4 more info (A.R.T.) On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, DJ Justes wrote:

quoted 11 lines Picked up this record yesterday.

> Picked up this record yesterday. > 3rd Eye Music, A.R.T Records 1992 > a1. Balil - Nort Route (Black Dog) > b1. Future/Past - Clinically Inclined (Kirk Degiorgio) > b2. Esoterik - Interiors (Kirk Degiorgio) > > My question is this: have i stumbled upon a lost jem in the used bin or > is this just some old junk? it sounds nice enough and im stoked to have > old black dog stuff. i know the art 2 compilation is much sought after > and so i wonder if this slab has any value. >

The one you've found is the Planet E version of ART1. As far as I've heard (this could be a wholly insubstantial rumour, so don't take my word for it :) Carl Craig and Kirk DeGiorgio made some sort of a deal that Planet E would release A.R.T. domestically in the US and in exchange there would be Planet E material released on A.R.T. in the UK. This produced PEART1 on Planet E, the one you have, and Craig's Psyche/BFC EP (ART3) on A.R.T. But, there are three different versions of ART1: the original one (A.R.T. ART1 12" 1991/2?) with the track listing Balil: Nort Route (remix) Atypic: Blah Future/Past: Clinically Inclined (remix) As One: Amalia and the Planet E one (Planet E PEART1 12" 1992) Balil: Nort Route Future/Past: Clinically Inclined Esoterik: Interiors _and_ finally, the R&S version, (R&S Records RS92010 12" 1992) as Future/Past: ART 1 EP (of which I don't have a track listing because I don't have that one, I have only the A.R.T. and Planet E versions - but the R&S version does have a different track listing so I'd like to have that one, too :). And of course there's the 4x12" compilation of the first four A.R.T. releases, Objets d'A.R.T. on New Electronica (ELEC9LP, 1994) that has a repress of the original ART1 (allegedly from the same plates, even). From my point of view, you have found a pearl (unless Planet E has started repressing their back catalogue). And yes, Nort Route is probably one of the best Balil tracks right after Choke And Fly (on ART2.2). Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about anything so that I'll have something more to obsess about, especially the exchange between Planet E and A.R.T. Cheers, -- nuutti-iivari meriläinen gordon at diversion dot org http colon slash slash www dot diversion dot org slash --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

I suppose "junk" was the wrong word. I meant more along the lines of value. for instance someone picking up an Aphex Twin - Didgeridoo record recently might think "wow, i bet this is worth SO much money!" but of course they are wrong because it's just been recently re-released and available everywhere. The only reason I questioned the $ value of the ART record is because I wondered if it had any. I bought it because I would pretty much buy anything on vinyl with the Black Dog name on it (especially from 1992!) justes "." wrote:

quoted 15 lines Of course it's a gem. Why would you think an old Black Dog/Degiorgio/ART

> Of course it's a gem. Why would you think an old Black Dog/Degiorgio/ART > record could possibly be junk? > > > Picked up this record yesterday. > > 3rd Eye Music, A.R.T Records 1992 > > a1. Balil - Nort Route (Black Dog) > > b1. Future/Past - Clinically Inclined (Kirk Degiorgio) > > b2. Esoterik - Interiors (Kirk Degiorgio) > > > > My question is this: have i stumbled upon a lost jem in the used bin or > > is this just some old junk? > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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You may also care to know that there are two versions of the ART release. The Black Dog side is the same on both but there are two versions of the Future/Past side with the second track being different. Both versions are labeled the same but the etchings in the runout grooves are different. Later, Wayne Nuutti-Iivari Meriläinen wrote:

quoted 60 lines On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, DJ Justes wrote:

> > On Tue, 25 Jul 2000, DJ Justes wrote: > > > Picked up this record yesterday. > > 3rd Eye Music, A.R.T Records 1992 > > a1. Balil - Nort Route (Black Dog) > > b1. Future/Past - Clinically Inclined (Kirk Degiorgio) > > b2. Esoterik - Interiors (Kirk Degiorgio) > > > > My question is this: have i stumbled upon a lost jem in the used bin or > > is this just some old junk? it sounds nice enough and im stoked to have > > old black dog stuff. i know the art 2 compilation is much sought after > > and so i wonder if this slab has any value. > > > > The one you've found is the Planet E version of ART1. As far as I've > heard (this could be a wholly insubstantial rumour, so don't take my word > for it :) Carl Craig and Kirk DeGiorgio made some sort of a deal that > Planet E would release A.R.T. domestically in the US and in exchange there > would be Planet E material released on A.R.T. in the UK. This produced > PEART1 on Planet E, the one you have, and Craig's Psyche/BFC EP (ART3) on > A.R.T. But, there are three different versions of ART1: the original one > (A.R.T. ART1 12" 1991/2?) with the track listing > > Balil: Nort Route (remix) > Atypic: Blah > Future/Past: Clinically Inclined (remix) > As One: Amalia > > and the Planet E one (Planet E PEART1 12" 1992) > > Balil: Nort Route > Future/Past: Clinically Inclined > Esoterik: Interiors > > _and_ finally, the R&S version, (R&S Records RS92010 12" 1992) as > Future/Past: ART 1 EP (of which I don't have a track listing because I > don't have that one, I have only the A.R.T. and Planet E versions - but > the R&S version does have a different track listing so I'd like to have > that one, too :). And of course there's the 4x12" compilation of the > first four A.R.T. releases, Objets d'A.R.T. on New Electronica (ELEC9LP, > 1994) that has a repress of the original ART1 (allegedly from the same > plates, even). > > From my point of view, you have found a pearl (unless Planet E has > started repressing their back catalogue). And yes, Nort Route is probably > one of the best Balil tracks right after Choke And Fly (on ART2.2). > > Please feel free to correct me if I'm wrong about anything so that I'll > have something more to obsess about, especially the exchange between > Planet E and A.R.T. > > Cheers, > -- > nuutti-iivari meriläinen gordon at diversion dot org > http colon slash slash www dot diversion dot org slash > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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