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Re: [idm] in-store listening

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◇ merged from 2 subjects: in-store listening · mp3s and change in the music industry
2000-05-21 22:29Christopher Miller [idm] Re: mp3s and change in the music industry
└─ 2000-05-22 11:54Irene McC [idm] in-store listening
2000-05-23 22:40Bobby Tribble Re: [idm] in-store listening
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2000-05-21 22:29Christopher MillerOn Sun, May 21, 2000, John noted: > Mp3's are a double-edged sword in that they are great
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Sun, 21 May 2000 18:29:59 -0400
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[idm] Re: mp3s and change in the music industry
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On Sun, May 21, 2000, John noted:
quoted 3 lines Mp3's are a double-edged sword in that they are great for getting the music> Mp3's are a double-edged sword in that they are great for getting the music > heard and enticing people to buy the album or release the mp3 comes from > but also may result in lost sales
Lost sales might also be from folks listening to the mp3s and realizing they just plain don't like the songs (or the artist). A large amount of mp3s I download end up in the little `trash' icon down at the bottom left corner of my computer screen rather than being transferred to .aiff and then onto cdr. So then... why in the world would you buy something you don't like? My main beef with the music industry and record shops as a majority are that they seem to rely on me not actually knowing what it is that I'm buying because I've never heard it. Then I get home and am pissed off because I just dropped $15+ on a crappy cd. Most record shops have the policy of `no returns', and very few will actually allow you to listen to the cds in the store before you buy 'em. There should be (scratch that... should always have been) a way you can preview a record/cd before you decide you want to buy it.
quoted 4 lines Having said that we have unreleased mp3's on the AI website @> Having said that we have unreleased mp3's on the AI website @ > http://www.aural-industries.com.au in the downloads section that we use for > promotional purposes and from the download statistics it would seem they are > very popular.
I don't listen to Real Audio files or that kind of thing. I can't really tell if I like a song by a small 30 second excerpt. The full-length track as Real Audio doesn't do me any good either. I also can't make a decision based on standing at the front counter of a record shop with headphones on while they've got other music playing over their own speakers. I need a good long listen. Not one, but more like three to five good listens. Since mp3s have come along, I've saved a whole lot of money from not having to buy a lot of crap. CDs are just too damned expensive! Isn't price-fixing supposed to be illegal? I rarely have anything anymore that I want to trade in at the used shops. If I like it, then I go out and buy it. If it's no longer available, then the record labels are the ones losing out - I would have bought it, and still will if there are more pressings later. I like the whole package, not just a cdr with a hand-written tracklisting. mp3s suck quality-wise anyway (in my opinion), and i'd rather have the real thing. .`-). christopher miller o o.' evil@fdt.net == ' ps. John... this sin't an attack against you or your label. Good luck in your ventures. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-05-22 11:54Irene McCOn 21 May 2000, Christopher Miller wrote re [idm] Re: mp3s and change in the mu: > Most re
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On 21 May 2000, Christopher Miller wrote re [idm] Re: mp3s and change in the mu:
quoted 3 lines Most record shops have the policy of `no returns', and very few> Most record shops have the policy of `no returns', and very few > will actually allow you to listen to the cds in the store before > you buy 'em.
I know the manager at my local shop, he lets me bring in my own disc-man player and headphones and I can park off in a corner of the shop with a pile of things... but it *still* doesn't give me the "vibe" of listening to music in my own space and making a realistic decision on whether or not I will continue liking it.
quoted 3 lines I also can't make a decision based on standing at the front> I also can't make a decision based on standing at the front > counter of a record shop with headphones on while they've got > other music playing over their own speakers.
Exactly. In SA we pay dearly (by the SECOND) for phone calls, so downloading MP3's doesn't work out to be that cheap a deal either, especially with flakey bandwidth etc. so it is a continuing battle to order stuff from overseas without having heard it before - oh, we poor obsessed creatures. I * --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-05-23 22:40Bobby Tribble> Most record shops have the policy of `no returns', and very few > will actually allow yo
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quoted 3 lines Most record shops have the policy of `no returns', and very few> Most record shops have the policy of `no returns', and very few > will actually allow you to listen to the cds in the store before > you buy 'em.
Let me just chime in here and say a few of the big used CD stores in the Bay Area in California have a policy that you can return any CD (even new ones) for any reason and get 70% store credit. It's certainly encouraged me to take a chance on CDs I'd otherwise pass up. PS the stores are Amoebas and Rasputins in case anyone cares. =) - Bobby --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org