Hey b.,
b. sims wrote:
quoted 11 lines sorry, if this continues for some a now dead thread.
> sorry, if this continues for some a now dead thread.
>
> > As far as Kyma goes, I'm not so sure it's as rampant as you say. And in
> > fact, (and I'm sure this will be controversial but what the heck) You can do
> > almost every thing that Kyma can do with the hand full of software only
> > programs you mentioned. Especially MSP, Reaktor and SuperCollider. To tell
> > you the truth, I can't really see that advantage to Kyma other then the
> > whole "more is better" thing. Aside from Formant morphing, (which you can
> > almost do with MSP) The algorithms aren't that original. There is the
>
> umm, the algorithms are what you program them to be.quoted 4 lines if you are just using the presets then yes you are better off buying something
> if you are just using the presets then yes you are better off buying something
> else (like a roland groovebox.) however, if you accually have any desire
> to create sound and program your own algorithms then nothing i've seen
> does it better.quoted 9 lines those in the uk may be familiar with the tape
> those in the uk may be familiar with the tape
> gallary. they do the london metro (bus) ads and use the morphing features
> to great effect.
>
> there is also the latancy issue. something which i hate about computer
> based software. even on a g4, there is absurd latancy and if you want to
> bring in an outside controller, ack. i personally don't like to wait 400
> ms for my fader movements to be recongized while playing live. kyma
> removes that (at least to the under 10 ms range.)quoted 2 lines having used generator and msp, you cannot do the real time control as
> having used generator and msp, you cannot do the real time control as
> you can with kyma.quoted 13 lines dedicated DSP but for $3,500 - $4,000 for the base system, you better get
> > dedicated DSP but for $3,500 - $4,000 for the base system, you better get
> > what you pay for... Right? Then there is this little nagging bit about
> > having to compile your setups before you can hear them... At least that's
> > the way it was the last time I checked. They may have changed it since then.
> > A friend of mind wanted one really bad until he found out about that.
>
> compiling is the price you pay for removing the latancy when playing the
> sounds live. it really isn't all that bad of a delay, and in the new
> verison (5.0) it has been streamlined more. i personally feel that it is
> worth every penny and much more. the a/d convertors alone are worth
> more then the $3500. ever price good a/d convertors, like
> digidesign's? (which accually arn't all that good) they could easily
> package the a/d convertors and sell them for upwards of $6k.quoted 3 lines another benchmark would be, how much would it cost to get equalivant
> another benchmark would be, how much would it cost to get equalivant
> processing power. kyma basic unit is about equal to the processing of 3
> g4s. 3 g4s will run you about $10k.quoted 3 lines having spent time with the folks at
> having spent time with the folks at
> symbolic sound, i know they are in no way trying to gauge you as a
> user.quoted 2 lines their upgrades are free, and their support is amazing. the cost of
> their upgrades are free, and their support is amazing. the cost of
> the system is as low as it can be.quoted 4 lines they also seem to have little desire
> they also seem to have little desire
> to be a corporation (being in business for the sake of making money), so
> they are going to build the best system they can and not try to market to
> or deal with the entry level market.quoted 3 lines music may be the most glamorous use of kyma, it is used in academia, kyma isn't
> music may be the most glamorous use of kyma, it is used in academia, kyma isn't
> for everyone so if it isn't your bag then so be it. while psycho-acoutics
> research, and as a data analyst. it is what you make it.quoted 1 line b.
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