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2000-05-13 07:00Vague Terrain"dude. pointing out that someone referred to as a 'he' is in actuality is a she is not mis

From:: Vague Terrain <mcess@pop.slip.net>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sat, 13 May 2000 00:00:25 -0700
Subject:: [idm] better Riz than "chick"

"dude. pointing out that someone referred to as a 'he' is in actuality is a she is not misogynistic. pointing out that a person is attractive is not misogynistic." While I shouldn't speak for others, I have to say that the original post wasn't arguing that it was misogynist to identify Riz' gender. The word in question wasn't "woman", it was "chick" and if you can't figure out the connotative difference, then YOU'RE the "moron" in this picture. And no, pointing out that a person is attractive isn't *necessarily* misogynistic. But in a sexist climate in which women's art-making tends to get referenced with their looks in ways that men's art-maiking rarely is, to uncritically perpetuate that association is to make a comment which, if not sexist in its intention, is nontheless sexist in its effect. How many posts on IDM have you seen where Bernd Friedmann's fetching cheekbones or Rob Brown's brooding good looks are the issue? later "dude". Drew --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-05-13 16:59Irene McCI recently DJ'd at an all-female line-up event (4 to each floor) and the party was billed

From:: Irene McC <substar@iafrica.com>
To:: <mcess@pop.slip.net>, <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sat, 13 May 2000 18:59:07 +0200
Subject:: [idm] it takes one "chick" to spot another
Reply to:: [idm] better Riz than "chick"

I recently DJ'd at an all-female line-up event (4 to each floor) and the party was billed as "chicks with decks". Do all-male events ever get billed as "a bunch of pricks" -- ? Whatever, moving on: On 13 May 2000, Vague Terrain wrote re [idm] better Riz than "chick":

quoted 3 lines How many posts on IDM have you seen where Bernd Friedmann's

> How many posts on IDM have you seen where Bernd Friedmann's > fetching cheekbones or Rob Brown's brooding good looks are the > issue?

Aaaaaaaaaaah. May I be the first, then, to wax lyrical ?! Anyway, this whole debate reminds me of the Spinal Tap sequence about the difference between "Sexy" and "Sexist". Ha ha :-) I * np : Pan American 360 Business 360 Bypass --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

2000-05-13 18:19Dave WalkerIrene McC wrote: > np : Pan American 360 Business 360 Bypass Sweet record, especially the

From:: Dave Walker <marmoset@mich.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.org>
Date:: Sat, 13 May 2000 14:19:05 -0400
Subject:: Re: [idm] it takes one "chick" to spot another

Irene McC wrote:

quoted 1 line np : Pan American 360 Business 360 Bypass

> np : Pan American 360 Business 360 Bypass

Sweet record, especially the tracks Rob Mazurek plays cornet on. -d.w. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org

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