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1997-07-24 15:56Neal Thomas (idm) Metamatics
1997-08-21 13:51Hary Walsh (idm) Metamatics
1999-03-09 15:38Michael Stein (idm) clear
├─ 1999-03-09 16:29Aaron S Michelson Re: (idm) clear
│ └─ 1999-03-09 16:50little miss trinitron Re: (idm) clear
└─ 1999-03-09 16:40Lance C McGannon Re: (idm) clear
├─ 1999-03-10 13:24Jeffrey Burk Re: (idm) clear
└─ 1999-03-11 12:16Jeff Davis <pHlow> Re: (idm) clear
└─ 1999-03-12 07:29Lance C McGannon Re: (idm) metamatics
1999-10-20 17:40tonee (idm) metamatics
2000-02-21 14:01dotslash dot (idm) Metamatics
└─ 2000-02-21 17:20Greg Clow Re: (idm) Metamatics
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1997-07-24 15:56Neal ThomasSorry if this is repeating the already uttered, or stating the obvious: The new Metamatics
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Sorry if this is repeating the already uttered, or stating the obvious: The new Metamatics CD on Clear is unbelievably good - conquering d'n'b, idm, intelli-house, etc. Pick it up and you won't be disappointed. N E A L T H O M A S Web Designer - IISD e: nthomas@iisd.ca w: http://iisd1.iisd.ca
1997-08-21 13:51Hary WalshI was in London a couple of weeks ago, and I picked up some test pressings of Metamatics E
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I was in London a couple of weeks ago, and I picked up some test pressings of Metamatics EP03 and EP04. A while back there was a discussion about why clear said nothing about the release of the Metamatics CD until after the 4 eps were released. Anyway, with these test pressings came a a4 sheet of paper explaining what the releases were, where they were coming from, where they intended to go and that they were part of a series of 4 eps to be released on a CD. If anyone wants the text of these, I can type them in. Oh, and I've just recently gotten hold of the Skampler, and I must say I am really impressed with it. I hadn't heard much off it before ( it's very hard to get Skam releases in Ireland ), and after hearing Skampler I'm determined to pick up as much of their stuff as I can. BTW, thanks to everyone for recomending record shops in London. I found Sister Ray and Selectadisc to be great. Towards the end of the holiday I went in to Sister Ray to do one last scoop there. I had about 20 quid in my pocket and found myself in a terrible dilema. Standing there with 23 12s in my hand desperatly trying to shortlist it down to 4... argh.... np: Monomorph - Subject To Electronic Control. -hjw When nations grow old, the arts grow cold and commerce settles on every tree. -William Blake
1999-03-09 15:38Michael Stein>A new UK label has started up called District Six that >looks to be filling the void left
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Tue, 9 Mar 1999 09:38:57 -0600
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quoted 3 lines A new UK label has started up called District Six that>A new UK label has started up called District Six that >looks to be filling the void left buy the folding of the >Clear label.
What VOID?? I mean the first four or five releases (Plaid, Gescom, Jake Slaz, Jedi Knights) were all excellent and worth purchasing, but were produced by already established artists. What followed thereafter was for the most part OK, nevertheless, not very exciting. As One was good, but again, an already established artist. I don't really see why Clear was considered so "revolutionary" when all they did was enlist IDM illuminati and had them perform in a retro style. Not trying to slag the label or its fans... just my two cents. Mike.
1999-03-09 16:29Aaron S MichelsonExcerpts from mail: 9-Mar-99 (idm) clear by Michael Stein@MasterChar > What VOID?? I mean
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Excerpts from mail: 9-Mar-99 (idm) clear by Michael Stein@MasterChar
quoted 4 lines What VOID?? I mean the first four or five releases (Plaid, Gescom, Jake> What VOID?? I mean the first four or five releases (Plaid, Gescom, Jake > Slaz, Jedi Knights) were all excellent and worth purchasing, but were > produced by already established artists. What followed thereafter was for > the most part OK, nevertheless, not very exciting.
Try Metamatics and Morgan Geist for size. Both are far superior to the pretentious wankery Paradinas barfed out on Clear. Aaron
1999-03-09 16:50little miss trinitronOn Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:29:57 -0500 (EST), you wrote: >Try Metamatics and Morgan Geist for s
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On Tue, 9 Mar 1999 11:29:57 -0500 (EST), you wrote:
quoted 2 lines Try Metamatics and Morgan Geist for size. Both are far superior to the>Try Metamatics and Morgan Geist for size. Both are far superior to the >pretentious wankery Paradinas barfed out on Clear.
wha? tusken raiders is my favourite clear probably, but yeah, the slazenger stuff isn't so engrossing i spose. btw i still have the megaphonk ep available, first to offer 50usd gets it!
1999-03-09 16:40Lance C McGannonAt 09:38 AM 3/9/99 -0600, you wrote: >>A new UK label has started up called District Six t
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Lance C McGannon
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Tue, 09 Mar 1999 11:40:35 -0500
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At 09:38 AM 3/9/99 -0600, you wrote:
quoted 12 lines A new UK label has started up called District Six that>>A new UK label has started up called District Six that >>looks to be filling the void left buy the folding of the >>Clear label. > >What VOID?? I mean the first four or five releases (Plaid, Gescom, Jake >Slaz, Jedi Knights) were all excellent and worth purchasing, but were >produced by already established artists. What followed thereafter was for >the most part OK, nevertheless, not very exciting. As One was good, but >again, an already established artist. I don't really see why Clear was >considered so "revolutionary" when all they did was enlist IDM illuminati >and had them perform in a retro style. >
There were several other worthwhile releases on Clear aside from the ones you mention: Gregory Fleckner Quintet, Metamatics, Daniel Ibbotson, Clatterbox, Dr. Rocket, Morgan Geist, Reflection and the Reflection remix project. There were a few releases that were of lesser quality but nowhere near enough to dimiss the label as a whole. Regarding "IDM iuminati" and Clear, the way i see it Clear's first few releases were by "IDM iuminati" but from then on they mostly developed and released their own talent. Dr Rocket, Clatterbox, Metamatics, Daniel Ibbotson, Gregory Fleckner Quintet, Reflection and The Lithium first appeared or were first brought to prominence on the Clear label. I agree that Clear may have gotten a little more hype than they deserve but even without that hype they were still a very good label. -->-Lance--- mclance@nacs.net lance@inaudible.com p.o. box 450715 westlake, ohio 44145 united states
1999-03-10 13:24Jeffrey BurkSome thoughts on Clear. illuminati. It's true that Clear enlisted well known artists (illu
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Wed, 10 Mar 1999 07:24:48 -0600
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Some thoughts on Clear. illuminati. It's true that Clear enlisted well known artists (illuminati) to introduce its first series of releases starting in January of 1995. What was different and challenging about the label was an apparent confidence in their overall concept. As I understand it, their idea was to release records created by well known artists, using ambiguous pseudonyms, in a electro/retro style. The names of the artists were made even more ambiguous because of the difficult to read, highly stylized 'graffiti' type treatment used on the record labels and sleeves. Clear was actually "looking forward while looking backward" by asking their artists to create using a retro style sound. From 1995 to 1998 the label put out one excellent release after another. Over those 4 years the label showed an evolution in sound: 1995 :solid electro ( Jedi Knights, Gescom, Jake Slazenger and others ) 1996 :cheeze, jazz; experimental ( The Gregory Fleckner Quintet, Clatterbox and others ) 1997 :drum and jazz and bass and asymmetry ( Metamatics, Reflection and Morgan Geist ) 1998 :fluid and jazzy; percussive "live instrument" sound ( newer artists like The Lithium Project ) design. Clear showed a high level of strategic design sensibility with its product. Each Clear package looked and felt well designed; contributing to the overall development of the Clear "brand" above and beyond just the music itself. The label knew that it wasn't just the "the record", but it was good design that contributed to an overall experience. Choices like printing ink color ( inks included metallics ), paper and novel packaging ideas ( Reflections magnet closure, Its All Becoming Clear's complex die-cut packaging ) helped define a cohesive look and feel for the label. some highlights: Reflection: The Errornormous World Reflection: The Morerroronus World Remix comp Morgan Geist: The Driving Memoirs Metamatics: various As One: The Message ... GFQ: Monkey Boots mindset. When Clear first came out they were motivated to represent a sound they felt got overlooked. They had the foresight to commit themselves to a retro/electro style in 1995. I remember listening to the Jedi Knights 12" ( in 1995 ) and thinking it was really bad. Today I really appreciate Clear; thorough design, quirky music and a creative concept. releases (most, not all): 400 : Various : It's All Becoming... Clear 406 : Jedi Knights : May The Funk Be With You 407 : Tusken Raiders : Bantha Trax 408 : Gescom : The Sounds Of Machines ... 409 : Plaid : Android 410 : Jake Slazenger : Makesaracket 411 : Doctor Rockit : Ready To Rockit 412 : Clatterbox : Clatterbox 414 : Daniel Ibbotson : Souped Up 415 : Spacepimp : Spacepimp 416 : Doctor Rockit : D For Doctor 417 : As One : The Message In Herbie's Shirts 418 : Gregory Fleckner Quintet : A Gentle Introduction 419 : Gregory Fleckner Quintet : Monkey Boots 420 : Gregory Fleckner Quintet : Goodbye Morals, Hello Happiness 421 : Clatterbox : Spatz 422 : Clatterbox : Easy Does It 423 : Doctor Rockit : Swingtime 424 : Doctor Rockit : The Music Of Sound 425 : Metamatics : EP.01 426 : Metamatics : EP.02 427 : Metamatics : EP.03 428 : Metamatics : EP.04 429 : Metamatics : A Metamatics Production 430 : As One : In With Their Arps and Moogs and Jazz and Things 431 : Reflection : Transparent 432 : Reflection : The Errornormous World 433 : Morgan Geist : Linking Tunnel/Food & Fuel 434 : Reflection : Sampler 1 435 : Reflection : Sampler 2 436 : Reflection : The Morerroronus World 437 : Morgan Geist : The Driving Memoirs 438 : Metamatics : Onyx 439 : The Lithium Project : The Lithium Project If you want to read more about the Clear label you can read the results to a reader survey posted at my site. Included in the results are popular opinions to some of the questions in this thread including: favorite packaging, favorite Clear year, favorite full length, and 12", etc. Clear Visual Discography: http://www.formstudio.com/thesesubjects/music/clear/pollresults.html Jeffrey.
quoted 3 lines I don't really see why Clear was>I don't really see why Clear was >>considered so "revolutionary" when all they did was enlist IDM illuminati >>and had them perform in a retro style.
1999-03-11 12:16Jeff Davis <pHlow>On Tue, 09 Mar 1999 11:40:35 -0500, Lance C McGannon <mclance@nacs.net> said: > >There wer
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On Tue, 09 Mar 1999 11:40:35 -0500, Lance C McGannon <mclance@nacs.net> said:
quoted 16 lines There were several other worthwhile releases on Clear> >There were several other worthwhile releases on Clear >aside from the ones you mention: Gregory Fleckner Quintet, >Metamatics, Daniel Ibbotson, Clatterbox, Dr. Rocket, >Morgan Geist, Reflection and the Reflection remix project. >There were a few releases that were of lesser quality but >nowhere near enough to dimiss the label as a whole. > >Regarding "IDM iuminati" and Clear, the way i see it >Clear's first few releases were by "IDM iuminati" but >from then on they mostly developed and released their >own talent. Dr Rocket, Clatterbox, Metamatics, Daniel >Ibbotson, Gregory Fleckner Quintet, Reflection and The >Lithium first appeared or were first brought to prominence >on the Clear label. >
as usual, i agree with lance here and view clear as much more than a label which released "established acts in a retro style". while there was certainly a retro-ethic in effect during "the first electro comeback" which coincided roughly with the clear start-up, i think later releases branched out and progressed into many smooth and jazzy directions which were by no means rear-view-mirror based. in particular, the metamatics stuff and reflection releases were largely underappreciated (in my opinion) and really represented some nice sounds. neo-ouija (not technically on clear) hardly received a mention, and it was one of my tops for 1998. i look forward to geting my lazy ass down to bent crayon to pick up the new lee norris stuff on district six.......... np: jake mandell: bottombracket peeeeeeeeeeeeeece, -- Jeff Davis pHlow@earthlink.net fn:216.533.6303 fx:216.266.2310 text:2165336303@mobile.att.net pHlow.linx: home.earthlink.net/~phlow/ Bochum Welt: www.bochumwelt.com Rotator Locator: hyperreal.org/music/rotator/
1999-03-12 07:29Lance C McGannonAt 12:16 PM 3/11/99 +0000, you wrote: > >in particular, the metamatics stuff and reflectio
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At 12:16 PM 3/11/99 +0000, you wrote:
quoted 9 lines in particular, the metamatics stuff and reflection releases were largely> >in particular, the metamatics stuff and reflection releases were largely >underappreciated (in my opinion) and really represented some nice sounds. >neo-ouija (not technically on clear) hardly received a mention, and it was >one of my tops for 1998. > >i look forward to geting my lazy ass down to bent crayon to pick up the new >lee norris stuff on district six.......... >
Speaking of which, I've been meaning to post to the list about how good the aforementioned new Metamatics 12" on District Six called Dayglo Tinsel is. It's a gritty melodic four tracker of complex electronica and breakbeaty stuff with a very original sound to it. Probably the best metamatics release yet. Get it if you can. I hear it's pretty limited. -->-Lance--- mclance@nacs.net lance@inaudible.com p.o. box 450715 westlake, ohio 44145 united states
1999-10-20 17:40toneethere is an interview w/ Metamatics in the new issue of Sleaze Nation. (stereolab is n the
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(idm) metamatics
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there is an interview w/ Metamatics in the new issue of Sleaze Nation. (stereolab is n there also) ta; tony ===== __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Bid and sell for free at http://auctions.yahoo.com
2000-02-21 14:01dotslash dotHi, decided to come out of hiding after reading the recent Metamatics mails... and just wo
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Hi, decided to come out of hiding after reading the recent Metamatics mails... and just wondered if anyone could answer a question for me! I have the Metatmatics cd on Clear and I have the neoouja album from last year, but my local retailer doesnt have the new colmic zeus in stock... can anyone point me in the direction of someone who has them?? I am in New York by the way.... Thanks, and word to the college kids, ./. ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-02-21 17:20Greg ClowOn Mon, 21 Feb 2000, dotslash dot wrote: > I have the Metatmatics cd on Clear and I have t
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On Mon, 21 Feb 2000, dotslash dot wrote:
quoted 4 lines I have the Metatmatics cd on Clear and I have the neoouja album from last> I have the Metatmatics cd on Clear and I have the neoouja album from last > year, but my local retailer doesnt have the new colmic zeus in stock... can > anyone point me in the direction of someone who has them?? I am in New York > by the way....
The new Metamatics 12" and the Metamatics/Geiom 12" haven't actually been released yet, anyone posting about them must have received promos (Lee sent them out last week). I believe the official release date is in March sometime. Greg ...waiting for my promo copies... :) -- Greg Clow - greg@stainedproductions.com - greg@feedbackmonitor.com concert & event promotions - http://www.stainedproductions.com electronic music radio/reviews/interviews - http://www.feedbackmonitor.com 158 Close Ave. 2nd Floor - Toronto, Ontario M6K 2V5 - Canada --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org