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◇ merged from 2 subjects: (idm) re: idm-digest v2 #458 · (idm) re:cuttingloops
1999-01-04 09:42Simon Walley (idm) Re: idm-digest V2 #458
1999-01-04 15:22Andrew Duke Cognition Audioworks (idm) Re:cuttingLOOPS
└─ 1999-01-06 10:12Andrew Hime Re: (idm) Re:cuttingLOOPS
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1999-01-04 09:42Simon Walley>From: Mark Kolmar <mkolmar@xnet.com> >Subject: Re: (idm) haters 10" > >All they have to d
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quoted 6 lines From: Mark Kolmar <mkolmar@xnet.com>>From: Mark Kolmar <mkolmar@xnet.com> >Subject: Re: (idm) haters 10" > >All they have to do is cut from the outside-in, then the inside-out, >stopping at the same point for the lock groove. I'm not sure how >difficult that is in practical terms though.
It can only be done on certain lathes - from what I hear only the Scully (sp?) lathe can cut in both directions (although I guess other lathes could be modified?). Ron Hardy at NSC (Detroit) is a famous (ab)user of the Scully - I think D&M Berlin possibly have one as well and there are other cutting rooms around that use it. You can create lock grooves on other lathes but only in the run-off at the end of a side and therefore it would be pretty impossible to cut a 133.33BPM rhythm properly on this - you can only loop the end of tracks (I have some old Blast First and Mercury Rev records that do this). There are some Relief records that attempt to lock at the run-off and most of them just fail pretty badly. || [CiM] || cim_@hotmail.com || - ______________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free Email at http://www.hotmail.com
1999-01-04 15:22Andrew Duke Cognition AudioworksSimon Walley wrote: > >From: Mark Kolmar <mkolmar@xnet.com> > >Subject: Re: (idm) haters 1
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Simon Walley wrote:
quoted 13 lines From: Mark Kolmar <mkolmar@xnet.com>> >From: Mark Kolmar <mkolmar@xnet.com> > >Subject: Re: (idm) haters 10" > > > >All they have to do is cut from the outside-in, then the inside-out, > >stopping at the same point for the lock groove. I'm not sure how > >difficult that is in practical terms though. > > It can only be done on certain lathes - from what I hear only the Scully > (sp?) lathe can cut in both directions (although I guess other lathes > could be modified?). Ron Hardy at NSC (Detroit) is a famous (ab)user of > the Scully - I think D&M Berlin possibly have one as well and there are > other cutting rooms around that use it. >
***in the current Magic Feet mag, there's a feature with Ron (NSC) andNilz (The Exchange) interviewed; in the current Massive, there's an interview with Ron (NSC). I think Ron talks about this issue in both interviews.
quoted 7 lines You can create lock grooves on other lathes but only in the run-off at> You can create lock grooves on other lathes but only in the run-off at > the end of a side and therefore it would be pretty impossible to cut a > 133.33BPM rhythm properly on this - you can only loop the end of tracks > (I have some old Blast First and Mercury Rev records that do this). > There are some Relief records that attempt to lock at the run-off and > most of them just fail pretty badly. >
***"fail pretty badly" is putting it rather politely here, Simon ;)Andrew
1999-01-06 10:12Andrew Hime> ***in the current Magic Feet mag, there's a feature with Ron (NSC) andNilz > (The Exchan
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quoted 3 lines ***in the current Magic Feet mag, there's a feature with Ron (NSC) andNilz> ***in the current Magic Feet mag, there's a feature with Ron (NSC) andNilz > (The Exchange) interviewed; in the current Massive, there's an interview > with Ron (NSC). I think Ron talks about this issue in both interviews.
Where cxan one find this?