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quoted 4 lines heard on the news that syd barrett killed his landlady then

> heard on the news that syd barrett killed his landlady then > shot himself in the head.... too much tv:( > > its relevant _william

quoted 2 lines heard on the news that syd barrett killed his landlady then

>> heard on the news that syd barrett killed his landlady then >> shot himself in the head.... too much tv:(

I thought he lived with his mother at her house!

quoted 1 line its relevant _william

>> its relevant _william

very relevant.. Syd's Pink Floyd was my first stepping stone on the path to IDM ! very sad if its true. ernie Ernesto Ikerd, (817) 763-4795 Company Graphics, Dept 17, MZ-1156 Lockheed Martin Tactical Aircraft Systems Fort Worth, Texas

can we get a confirm on this? or is it indeed a sick joke parodying the death of legendary 60's producer Joe Meeks (ex: The Tornadoes - Telstar, which is "an epic hymn to space flight that predates Kraftwerk by ten years," as liner notes have stated), who I believe did the exact same thing (offed the landlady and then himself). if true, then a sad loss... anyone? daevid j

quoted 7 lines From: tweibrecht@juno.com (thomas m weibrecht)

>From: tweibrecht@juno.com (thomas m weibrecht) >Subject: Re: (idm) syd barretts got a hole n is head_ > >>> heard on the news that syd barrett killed his landlady then >>> shot himself in the head.... too much tv:( > >is this a sick joke?

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At 10:32 AM 10/6/98 PDT, David J. Gebhart wrote:

quoted 11 lines can we get a confirm on this?

> >can we get a confirm on this? > >or is it indeed a sick joke parodying the death of legendary 60's >producer Joe Meeks (ex: The Tornadoes - Telstar, which is "an epic hymn >to space flight that predates Kraftwerk by ten years," as liner notes >have stated), who I believe did the exact same thing (offed the landlady >and then himself). > >if true, then a sad loss... >

Sad loss? The man is insane, and anything he does is completely by accident and cannot really be considered "good." 'crazy people are so fucking boring... ' :: wells oliver / s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu / http://mute.simplenet.com :: 'try to smile as they devour our youth'

Ernesto Ikerd wrote:

quoted 9 lines heard on the news that syd barrett killed his landlady then

> > >> heard on the news that syd barrett killed his landlady then > >> shot himself in the head.... too much tv:( > > I thought he lived with his mother at her house! > > >> its relevant _william > very relevant.. Syd's Pink Floyd was my first stepping stone on the path > to IDM ! very sad if its true.

i heard it on the radio..... his solo stuff still gets me roaring william

er, the way i reckon it, anything good is good, not good because of the thought that went behind it. when i hear a piece of music, see a film or go to a gallery i don't demand to see the artists medical records and a thesis paper on his thoughts behind the work. -steve In a message dated 98-10-06 14:08:08 EDT, s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu writes: << Sad loss? The man is insane, and anything he does is completely by accident and cannot really be considered "good." 'crazy people are so fucking boring... ' >>

At 02:59 PM 10/6/98 EDT, Steve81778@aol.com wrote:

quoted 2 lines er, the way i reckon it, anything good is good, not good because of the

>er, the way i reckon it, anything good is good, not good because of the >thought that went behind it. when i hear a piece of music, see a film or

go to

quoted 1 line a gallery i don't demand to see the artists medical records and a thesis

>a gallery i don't demand to see the artists medical records and a thesis

paper

quoted 4 lines on his thoughts behind the work.

>on his thoughts behind the work. > >-steve >

yeah, that is true. but what you seem to be doing is taking the work itself (song, film, etC) as what is good, and not the artist behind it. for example, if i wrote a book, and you took it completely out of context and really enjoyed _your_ interpretation of it, then you would be viewing the work as good, and me (as the author) as irrelevant to the work. that's what i mean when I say Syd Barrett sucks. maybe a song or two he has done is good, but his authorship seems irrelevant (since there was really no intention behind it as he's completely fucking bugger). am i making sense? probably not. it's a matter of opinion, i guess. ah well ;) :: wells oliver / s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu / http://mute.simplenet.com :: 'try to smile as they devour our youth'

On Tue, 6 Oct 1998, wells wrote:

quoted 11 lines but what you seem to be doing is taking the work itself (song, film, etC)

> but what you seem to be doing is taking the work itself (song, film, etC) > as what is good, and not the artist behind it. for example, if i wrote a > book, and you took it completely out of context and really enjoyed _your_ > interpretation of it, then you would be viewing the work as good, and me > (as the author) as irrelevant to the work. > > that's what i mean when I say Syd Barrett sucks. maybe a song or two he has > done is good, but his authorship seems irrelevant (since there was really > no intention behind it as he's completely fucking bugger). > > am i making sense? probably not. it's a matter of opinion, i guess.

You're making sense but you've got a few facts wrong. First he wasn't always insane, he just snapped one day (according to a recent interview with Rick Wright). So a lot of his stuff was written when he was fully functional. Second, being insane does not mean you are completely devoid of all conscious thought. Crazy people think, too. There's just a low signal to noise ratio. -Michael

quoted 5 lines but what you seem to be doing is taking the work itself (song, film, etc)

> but what you seem to be doing is taking the work itself (song, film, etc) > as what is good, and not the artist behind it. for example, if i wrote a > book, and you took it completely out of context and really enjoyed _your_ > interpretation of it, then you would be viewing the work as good, and me > (as the author) as irrelevant to the work.

when a piece is created (music, art, etc..) it takes on a life of its own. When that piece is consumed by others besides the creator, then it no longer lives in the single context of the creator, but in all the context of the people who have shared it. The meanings of a piece do not need to be the same to all people, nor do they need to be in the same context as the creator. I think one of the most flattering things for a musician is when someone mentions how a piece affected them, but in a completely way then the artist had originally meant it. At that moment, they should realize that the music is no longer solely "owned" (not talking copywrites). This does not render the artist irrelevant by any means, but I can certainly enjoy a song without liking the artist, and I can like a particular artist, but not enjoy a certain song. -dj

quoted 5 lines er, the way i reckon it, anything good is good, not good because of the

>er, the way i reckon it, anything good is good, not good because of the >thought that went behind it. when i hear a piece of music, see a film or go to >a gallery i don't demand to see the artists medical records and a thesis paper >on his thoughts behind the work. >

Well, then, if a million monkeys bashed on a billion keyboards... 3

quoted 1 line Well, then, if a million monkeys bashed on a billion keyboards...

> Well, then, if a million monkeys bashed on a billion keyboards...

then you get 99% of the music that is made...in all genres -dj

quoted 3 lines Well, then, if a million monkeys bashed on a billion keyboards...

>> Well, then, if a million monkeys bashed on a billion keyboards... > >then you get 99% of the music that is made...in all genres

That explains it then. The 1% remainder comprises the remainder, music of artistic merit. A product of pure random chances. Art is, in fact, a statistical anomaly. 3

thanks, wells, for negating my whole existence... (heh.) daevid j

quoted 9 lines From: wells <s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu>

>From: wells <s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu> >Subject: Re: (idm) syd barretts got a hole n is head_ > >At 10:32 AM 10/6/98 PDT, David J. Gebhart wrote: >> >>can we get a confirm on this? >> >>or is it indeed a sick joke parodying the death of legendary 60's >>producer Joe Meeks (ex: The Tornadoes - Telstar, which is "an epic

hymn

quoted 2 lines to space flight that predates Kraftwerk by ten years," as liner notes

>>to space flight that predates Kraftwerk by ten years," as liner notes >>have stated), who I believe did the exact same thing (offed the

landlady

quoted 6 lines and then himself).

>>and then himself). >> >>if true, then a sad loss... >> > >Sad loss? The man is insane, and anything he does is completely by

accident

quoted 7 lines and cannot really be considered "good."

>and cannot really be considered "good." > >'crazy people are so fucking boring... ' > >:: wells oliver / s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu / http://mute.simplenet.com >:: 'try to smile as they devour our youth' >

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Zenon M. Feszczak wrote:

quoted 7 lines er, the way i reckon it, anything good is good, not good because of the

> >er, the way i reckon it, anything good is good, not good because of the > >thought that went behind it. when i hear a piece of music, see a film or go to > >a gallery i don't demand to see the artists medical records and a thesis paper > >on his thoughts behind the work. > > > > Well, then, if a million monkeys bashed on a billion keyboards...

I hear that's how RDJ makes all his albums....no wait, I'm thinking of the Monkees...... spaul

What a psuedo-jaded wanker (and I ain't talking about Barrett).

quoted 10 lines Sad loss? The man is insane, and anything he does is completely by accident

>> > >Sad loss? The man is insane, and anything he does is completely by accident >and cannot really be considered "good." > >'crazy people are so fucking boring... ' > >:: wells oliver / s0ewoliv@titan.vcu.edu / http://mute.simplenet.com >:: 'try to smile as they devour our youth' >

-----Original Message----- From: Zenon M. Feszczak <feszczak@sas.upenn.edu> To: idm@hyperreal.org <idm@hyperreal.org> Date: 06 October 1998 21 29 Heatsink Subject: Re: (idm) syd barretts got a hole n is head_

quoted 1 line Well, then, if a million monkeys bashed on a billion keyboards...

>Well, then, if a million monkeys bashed on a billion keyboards...

Yeah, as if! Just the logistics of that are frightening - how on earth would you house and power a billion keyboards, let alone all the gear needed to record their output. Rounding up a billion monkeys would also be pretty tricky, and think of the mess they would leave behind after they created this so-called masterpiece! You just haven`t thought it through, have you? <---HEATsink--->