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2000-03-02 21:41Philip Sherburne (idm) bitching about what is or is not on-topic
2000-03-03 02:27Kelley Hackett (idm) bitching about what is or is not on-topic
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2000-03-02 21:41Philip SherburneThe, to my mind, curmudgeonly position that "Jim O'Rourke is more suited to the ambient li
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The, to my mind, curmudgeonly position that "Jim O'Rourke is more suited to the ambient list, please take it elsewhere" is certainly crying out for flames (and I almost wonder if it's not intentionally flame-bait). I could bring up plenty of recent instances of non-IDM that got discussed around here, from Jochem Paap's ambient CDs to the agonizing debacle of D'Angelo to the never-ending references back to hip hop (a critical plank in IDM's platform for "keeping it real" -- how many fucking times will I have to read Booth & Brown talk about how they were into electro and breaking, way way back in the day? But I digress). In any case, what I find most interesting about the demand to segregate ambient topics from IDM topics (even when the label at issue is, as in the case of the O'Rourke remix, arch-IDM label Warp) is that IDM was born largely out of the chillout rooms of rave/club culture. Its roots are really linked with ambient's development. And yet somehow there's an assumption now that IDM consists only of crunch'n'bleep DSP fuckery, and all the other influences be damned. Ah well, here's to sheltered childhoods. Philip Sherburne --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-03-03 02:27Kelley HackettCouldnt Agree again with you more Phil..... The two are meshed....what some think as nice
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Thu, 2 Mar 2000 21:27:20 -0500
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Couldnt Agree again with you more Phil..... The two are meshed....what some think as nice IDM stuff, is too damn quiet for me, Dettinger, ummmm, the Shuttle LP......I am not saying that its bad, but to me its much more Ambientish.....But there are tracks that I love which have that Ambient vibe to them, Like David Morely, a couple from Sun Electric, several from Another Fine Day............ Back on track though, who the heck really cares what Genre its in, if its good its good! Seems that some are pushing that "this genre is better than that genre" or the 'your genre emerged from mine" type of ordeal!........... Sweet Sixteen U boys and girls(edited)! Hk! --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org