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1997-08-20 19:46chris r graves>>Well? Which is which then? Are you going to keep us in >suspense forever? > >To me, Aphe

From:: chris r graves <grav@juno.com>
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Date:: Wed, 20 Aug 1997 15:46:33 -0400
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quoted 12 lines Well? Which is which then? Are you going to keep us in

>>Well? Which is which then? Are you going to keep us in >suspense forever? > >To me, Aphex was great (though i only managed to see a couple of >songs)(but at least i managed to see the giant dancing teddy >bears...they were excellent), and the prodigy were a bit too >testosterone fueled for my tastes, but i do NOT want to get invovled in >any arguments about which is better...it is all subjective.(and i don't >want masses of scary prodigy fans having a go at me...) > >- -- >Andre Bosman

have some guts. prodigy is an aweful band based on their dumb badass image just like reznor, manson, etc. aphex does not care what people think about his image. his music is much more creative. and he is just plain strange. i do not think he acts strange on purpose or dies his hair for effect. .... grav

1997-08-21 15:45Brett McCormickOn Wed, 20 August 1997, at 15:46:33, chris r graves wrote: > have some guts. > prodigy is

From:: Brett McCormick <brett@chicken.org>
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Date:: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 08:45:56 -0700 (PDT)
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On Wed, 20 August 1997, at 15:46:33, chris r graves wrote:

quoted 6 lines have some guts.

> have some guts. > prodigy is an aweful band based on their dumb badass image just like > reznor, manson, etc. aphex does not care what people think about > his image. his music is much more creative. and he is just plain > strange. i do not think he acts strange on purpose or dies his hair > for effect.

don't think so? He certainly plays up the media, I'm not sure what you refer to by "acts strange" as I've never seen the man in action, but it's probably safe to say it's as fake as his media identity. I find it hard to beleive there's a difference between the two. --brett

1997-08-21 18:15James SkiltonAt 08:45 21/08/97 -0700, Brett McCormick wrote: >don't think so? He certainly plays up the

From:: James Skilton <steady-j@geocities.com>
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Date:: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 19:15:24 +0100
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At 08:45 21/08/97 -0700, Brett McCormick wrote:

quoted 2 lines don't think so? He certainly plays up the media, I'm not sure what

>don't think so? He certainly plays up the media, I'm not sure what >you refer to by "acts strange" as I've never seen the man in action,

You should check the Aphex Twin fax in the latest Jockey Slut. this would fit both the categories of "Acting Strange" and "Playing up the Media"

quoted 2 lines but it's probably safe to say it's as fake as his media identity. I

>but it's probably safe to say it's as fake as his media identity. I >find it hard to beleive there's a difference between the two.

I hink its more a question of levels of commerciality. AFX and Prodigy are perhaps doing largely the same thing, as you say, but at the high level of exposure afforded the Prodigy, their actions are exaggerated both by their exposure and the groups own response to that exposure. AFX meanwhile can get away with things with less fear of criticism from purists, as he has a smaller band interested in him, and many of them are purists anyway. It's a question of playing the game. ? perhaps. J ^ Steady J aka James Skilton steady-j@geocities.com Autechre & SKAM discogs @ http://subnet.virtual-pc.com/~sk393820

1997-08-21 18:27Brett McCormickoops! I meant I found it hard to tell the difference between "acting strange" and "playing

From:: Brett McCormick <brett@chicken.org>
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Date:: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 11:27:00 -0700 (PDT)
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oops! I meant I found it hard to tell the difference between "acting strange" and "playing up the media" as I think they are one and the same for him: a fake act. Of course he wants to appear strange! --brett On Thu, 21 August 1997, at 19:15:24, James Skilton wrote:

quoted 10 lines but it's probably safe to say it's as fake as his media identity. I

> >but it's probably safe to say it's as fake as his media identity. I > >find it hard to beleive there's a difference between the two. > > I hink its more a question of levels of commerciality. AFX and Prodigy are > perhaps doing largely the same thing, as you say, but at the high level of > exposure afforded the Prodigy, their actions are exaggerated both by their > exposure and the groups own response to that exposure. AFX meanwhile can > get away with things with less fear of criticism from purists, as he has a > smaller band interested in him, and many of them are purists anyway. It's a > question of playing the game.

1997-08-22 02:09chris r graves>On Wed, 20 August 1997, at 15:46:33, chris r graves wrote: > >> have some guts. >> prodig

From:: chris r graves <grav@juno.com>
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Date:: Thu, 21 Aug 1997 22:09:54 -0400
Subject:: (idm) Re: prodigy=bad,aphex=good

quoted 8 lines On Wed, 20 August 1997, at 15:46:33, chris r graves wrote:

>On Wed, 20 August 1997, at 15:46:33, chris r graves wrote: > >> have some guts. >> prodigy is an aweful band based on their dumb badass image just like >> reznor, manson, etc. aphex does not care what people think about >> his image. his music is much more creative. and he is just plain >> strange. i do not think he acts strange on purpose or dies his hair >> for effect.

On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 08:45:56 -0700 (PDT) Brett McCormick <brett@chicken.org> writes:

quoted 4 lines don't think so? He certainly plays up the media, I'm not sure what

>don't think so? He certainly plays up the media, I'm not sure what >you refer to by "acts strange" as I've never seen the man in action, >but it's probably safe to say it's as fake as his media identity. I >find it hard to beleive there's a difference between the two.

...and... On Thu, 21 Aug 1997 10:13:18 -0500 "Mark Bowen" <mb@gettins.bche.uic.edu> writes:

quoted 2 lines yeah, he just drives a tank because its practical and sends messages

>yeah, he just drives a tank because its practical and sends messages >about sexual preference to the IDM list because it helps us figure out

which

quoted 1 line CDs are good.

>CDs are good.

he does play up the media. but i find it hard to believe that you don't see a difference between the two. the prodigy are their image. they don't really have much for music, but they have a guy with died hair & some stupid lyrics to make them popular. aphex is not popular and i think he does not care too much to be popular. he is just having fun when he answers faxed interviews like he did and drives his tank around. if you had a tank, would you not drive it around for fun? this is the end of this.. reply privately because i have the feeling that this thread has been here too many times for the long-time subscribers. .... grav

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