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(idm) 303 bashing and other stuff

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1997-08-20 18:30jimg/skoop (idm) 303 bashing and other stuff
├─ 1997-08-20 18:03Nate Harrison [Digital Magician Inc] Re: (idm) 303 bashing and other stuff
└─ 1997-08-20 19:51Random Junk Re: (idm) 303 bashing and other stuff
1997-08-21 00:43jimg/skoop Re: (idm) 303 bashing and other stuff
└─ 1997-08-21 06:10mark weddle Re: (idm) 303 bashing and other stuff
1997-08-21 03:54Brock Suter Re: (idm) 303 bashing and other stuff
1997-08-22 15:52friends of mr. svinsdig Re: (idm) 303 bashing and other stuff
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1997-08-20 18:30jimg/skoopRandom Junk <jsd@gamespot.com> wrote: >i think some are bristling at the suggestion that y
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Random Junk <jsd@gamespot.com> wrote:
quoted 2 lines i think some are bristling at the suggestion that you can put "techno>i think some are bristling at the suggestion that you can put "techno >in a box" for the Average Joe to purchase.
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quoted 3 lines there are many reasons to criticise the mc303 as a piece of supposedly>there are many reasons to criticise the mc303 as a piece of supposedly >professional-quality studio gear, but i really think most people are >offended at the ideological level rather than the technical.
Yep.
quoted 5 lines it's the same thing with the rebirth rb338. i have used or owned the>it's the same thing with the rebirth rb338. i have used or owned the >real 808 and 303 and there is almost nothing they can give you that >rebirth can't except a big fat erection cos you own a rare piece of >gear that lots of techno wannabees would pee themselves (or pay stupid >amounts of cash) to get. we already had thaddi this morning saying
Yeah, but I wouldn't wanna do a live set with nothing but a computer and a fucking mouse to twiddle over. That would be boring to me and boring to watch, I bet. Additionally, somebody else said that there's this whole issue of "gawd I gotta own an xox box if I'm gonna make techno" and I agree with them that it's a crock of shit. -jimg -- skoop@slackers.net www.slackers.net/~skoop
1997-08-20 18:03Nate Harrison [Digital Magician Inc]Skoop wrote: Yeah, but I wouldn't wanna do a live set with nothing but a computer and a fu
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Skoop wrote: Yeah, but I wouldn't wanna do a live set with nothing but a computer and a fucking mouse to twiddle over. That would be boring to me and boring to watch, I bet. and then Random Junk wrote: that's merely a problem of interface design. i could build a box that looked exactly like a 303 but simply used the physical knobs to twiddle the rebirth knobs on screen. (well, i couldn't PERSONALLY build it, but it could be done.) I write: Well I just went to the Propellerheads website to look for any updates, and it appears as if they have semi fixed this 'interface problem.' Thet are about to release Rebirth 1.5, which now includes: "At last, the days of the awkward mouse-control interface are over. Knobs, faders and buttons can now be remote controlled via MIDI, either from external devices such as synths, MIDI fader panels, hardware sequencers - or from any sequencer program on your computer. A 'learn' function allows you to do quick and easy MIDI setups for the most commonly used faders and knobs. To get full MIDI access to everything on the main screen, you'll have to follow the ReBirth MIDI Specification which will be found in the new on-line manual. Drool... you can't wait to tweak the Reso and Cutoff controls simultaneously. Admit it." Plus, they added a new 'PCF' module, not normally found on the real 303 or 808 I believe, which makes some awesome distortion effects! (hear their sample). The 1.5 update is free to cirrent 1.0 owners! Yippee! peace Nate Nate Harrison Digital Magician Inc. www.digimagician.com nate@digimagician.com 313.994.7316
1997-08-20 19:51Random Junkjimg/skoop writes: > Yeah, but I wouldn't wanna do a live set with nothing but a computer
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jimg/skoop writes:
quoted 3 lines Yeah, but I wouldn't wanna do a live set with nothing but a computer and a> Yeah, but I wouldn't wanna do a live set with nothing but a computer and a > fucking mouse to twiddle over. That would be boring to me and boring to > watch, I bet.
that's merely a problem of interface design. i could build a box that looked exactly like a 303 but simply used the physical knobs to twiddle the rebirth knobs on screen. (well, i couldn't PERSONALLY build it, but it could be done.) personally i find watching someone twiddling the knobs on the 303 to be about as boring as a guitar solo. it's like... gee, the filter is opening... and wait, no, it's opening more, and... oh god, it's going into self-oscillation!! wow!!! i'd rather stay home and watch TV. -- Jon Drukman jsd@gamespot.com SpotMedia Communications ...I was an infinitely hot and dense dot...
1997-08-21 00:43jimg/skoopI wrote: > Yeah, but I wouldn't wanna do a live set with nothing but a computer and a > fu
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I wrote:
quoted 1 line Yeah, but I wouldn't wanna do a live set with nothing but a computer and> Yeah, but I wouldn't wanna do a live set with nothing but a computer and
a
quoted 2 lines fucking mouse to twiddle over. That would be boring to me and boring to> fucking mouse to twiddle over. That would be boring to me and boring to > watch, I bet.
and JonD wrote:
quoted 4 lines that's merely a problem of interface design. i could build a box that>that's merely a problem of interface design. i could build a box that >looked exactly like a 303 but simply used the physical knobs to >twiddle the rebirth knobs on screen. (well, i couldn't PERSONALLY >build it, but it could be done.)
Yeah, true...but until it happens, all's there is is the mouse. And frankly, though I don't know why, the concept of using a computer (as in "desktop pc", not synthesizer) to make music doesn't sit well with me. Probably because I spend all day at work staring at them...
quoted 2 lines personally i find watching someone twiddling the knobs on the 303 to>personally i find watching someone twiddling the knobs on the 303 to >be about as boring as a guitar solo.
So how do you perform live? (Just curious) -jim gratuitous np:speedyj/public energy#1 -- skoop@slackers.net www.slackers.net/~skoop
1997-08-21 06:10mark weddleOn 20-Aug-97, jimg/skoop wrote: >Yeah, true...but until it happens, all's there is is the
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On 20-Aug-97, jimg/skoop wrote:
quoted 4 lines Yeah, true...but until it happens, all's there is is the mouse. And>Yeah, true...but until it happens, all's there is is the mouse. And >frankly, though I don't know why, the concept of using a computer (as in >"desktop pc", not synthesizer) to make music doesn't sit well with me. >Probably because I spend all day at work staring at them...
You realize that Autechre and Aphex are using almost exclusively computers now don't you? Do you like them? markw@southwind.net
1997-08-21 03:54Brock Suterjimg/skoop wrote: > Yeah, but I wouldn't wanna do a live set with nothing but a computer a
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jimg/skoop wrote:
quoted 3 lines Yeah, but I wouldn't wanna do a live set with nothing but a computer and a> Yeah, but I wouldn't wanna do a live set with nothing but a computer and a > fucking mouse to twiddle over. That would be boring to me and boring to > watch, I bet.
So why is most everyone on this list begging for info about where they can go to see some dork name Richard play with his powerbook? Just wondering... brock np: some really fucked up shit I just made with nothing but a 'puter, mouse and a little imagination. Call me a monkey, I don't care! :-P
1997-08-22 15:52friends of mr. svinsdigAt 14:30 20/08/97 -0400, you wrote: >Yeah, but I wouldn't wanna do a live set with nothing
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At 14:30 20/08/97 -0400, you wrote:
quoted 3 lines Yeah, but I wouldn't wanna do a live set with nothing but a computer and a>Yeah, but I wouldn't wanna do a live set with nothing but a computer and a >fucking mouse to twiddle over. That would be boring to me and boring to >watch, I bet.
why should a bunch of anonymous (to the casual listener at least) synths be more interesting than a pc? whatever equipment you use, it doesn't matter, people don't go to look at your rack. a desk and pc (and nice comfy office chair) infact would probably make more of a spectacle than a raftload of 'real' gear, it would probably do people's heads in. if you're doing a live show, the visual element in terms of artistic display is very much more important than the pile of equipment, isn't it? it seems rather shortsighted - external synths samplers fx and even mixers will eventually disappear. all in the little beige box cheerio! np - 'circuit' - heatsink \/\/\/\/\/+++++''''|||| AVANT-GARDE NOISE TREMBLING NOISE UNIT ---/\_ phabulous phreeky fone filosophy, on the way soon from salford sounds mr svinsdig, mr jones and silicon vortex to follow CIGAR SMOKERS UNITE £575 ----- --------