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1997-06-24 21:46Random Junkjust listened to Boymerang - Balance Of The Force and am quite underwhelmed. nothing reall

From:: Random Junk <jsd@gamespot.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Tue, 24 Jun 1997 14:46:30 -0700 (PDT)
Subject:: (idm) boymerang - muzak of the 90's

just listened to Boymerang - Balance Of The Force and am quite underwhelmed. nothing really distinctive about it. it's a competent rehash of photek, no-u-turn, bukem, et al. pleasant enough to listen to once or twice i guess. in contrast, i also just listened to Spring Heel Jack ("68 million shades") and find a much greater concentration of ideas and sounds and just general niftyness. --jsd np: the pop will eat itself cure for sanity.

1997-06-25 13:19Oblique HostilityOn Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Random Junk wrote: > just listened to Boymerang - Balance Of The Forc

From:: Oblique Hostility <kent@inav.net>
To:: intelligent dance <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 08:19:24 -0500 (CDT)
Subject:: Re: (idm) boymerang - muzak of the 90's
Reply to:: (idm) boymerang - muzak of the 90's

On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Random Junk wrote:

quoted 3 lines just listened to Boymerang - Balance Of The Force and am quite

> just listened to Boymerang - Balance Of The Force and am quite > underwhelmed. nothing really distinctive about it. it's a competent > rehash of photek, no-u-turn, bukem, et al.

I can't disagree more. I found this record to be one of the deepest things I'd heard in a long time, in that style. Bukem I'd compare it to, but Bukem tracks seem not as well produced (i.e. super mid-rangey and no use of stereo) and on the whole boring. Photek is nothing like Bukem in my experience, much more jagged and minimal than Bukem, and more interesting. And Boymerang seems to be a polar opposite of the No U Turn style, which is rough, dark and agressive. So that's two data points for you poor punters to work with before you drop $25 on another import CD. Other opinions? --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Psyche manifests as psychic through something we call 'winding', because it twists, and puts things that were far apart next to each other, complicatedly, taffywise." -- winona on channel 78 Kent Williams kent@inav.net -- http://soli.inav.net/~kent

1997-06-25 13:41The Amazing ArnoldAt 08:19 25-06-97 -0500, you wrote: >On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Random Junk wrote: > >> just lis

From:: The Amazing Arnold <arnold@sonik.demon.nl>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 15:41:29 +0200
Subject:: Re: (idm) boymerang - muzak of the 90's
Reply to:: Re: (idm) boymerang - muzak of the 90's

At 08:19 25-06-97 -0500, you wrote:

quoted 19 lines On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Random Junk wrote:

>On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Random Junk wrote: > >> just listened to Boymerang - Balance Of The Force and am quite >> underwhelmed. nothing really distinctive about it. it's a competent >> rehash of photek, no-u-turn, bukem, et al. > >I can't disagree more. I found this record to be one of the deepest >things I'd heard in a long time, in that style. Bukem I'd compare >it to, but Bukem tracks seem not as well produced (i.e. super mid-rangey >and no use of stereo) and on the whole boring. > >Photek is nothing like Bukem in my experience, much more jagged and >minimal than Bukem, and more interesting. > >And Boymerang seems to be a polar opposite of the No U Turn style, >which is rough, dark and agressive. > >So that's two data points for you poor punters to work with before >you drop $25 on another import CD. Other opinions?

Boymerang didn't really do it for me either. The best stuf was already released on a 12"... Mind Control is the one! Wait for the J Majik album on Infra Red. That's the real deep shit____________ ¤ Forcefield ¤ http://wwwedu.cs.utwente.nl/~wielen/forcefield

1997-06-25 15:28Jon DrukmanAt 8:19 AM -0500 6/25/97, Oblique Hostility wrote: >On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Random Junk wrote

From:: Jon Drukman <jsd@gamespot.com>
To:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 08:28:07 -0700
Subject:: Re: (idm) boymerang - muzak of the 90's
Reply to:: Re: (idm) boymerang - muzak of the 90's

At 8:19 AM -0500 6/25/97, Oblique Hostility wrote:

quoted 10 lines On Tue, 24 Jun 1997, Random Junk wrote:

aw c'mon kent, i expected more from you! that first track ("soul beat runna") is actually one of the prime offenders... it's got that sorta alex reecey "soulful" (*snort*) vibe going with these syrupy top 40 R&B-esque chords... and it just kinda mellows along for 7 mins without changing much (except to add an even more nauseating pad). i will admit up front that the sonic production quality is really top notch. totally blows away most jungle i've heard, just in that area... but it's not enough.

quoted 2 lines Photek is nothing like Bukem in my experience, much more jagged and

>Photek is nothing like Bukem in my experience, much more jagged and >minimal than Bukem, and more interesting.

yeah, no argument there. but listen to "mind control" (track 2 on boymerang) and then "hidden camera" by photek. there's more than a little similarity.

quoted 2 lines And Boymerang seems to be a polar opposite of the No U Turn style,

>And Boymerang seems to be a polar opposite of the No U Turn style, >which is rough, dark and agressive.

oh no no no no no NO... listen to track 4 ("you like it like that") again. it is TOTALLY the no-u-turn style, except minus the big hoover bass. but the sorta washy atmospheric intro, with the SAME freaking congas from the same cheapo drum machine... and then when it cuts loose, the drum programming is exactly the same style. play it back to back with, well, any track off "torque", you'll see what i mean.

1997-06-25 16:08Oblique HostilityOn Wed, 25 Jun 1997, Jon Drukman wrote: > > aw c'mon kent, i expected more from you! thass

From:: Oblique Hostility <kent@inav.net>
To:: Jon Drukman <jsd@gamespot.com>
Cc:: <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 11:08:23 -0500 (CDT)
Subject:: (idm) Jon Drukman, curmudgeon for the 90's
Reply to:: Re: (idm) boymerang - muzak of the 90's

On Wed, 25 Jun 1997, Jon Drukman wrote:

quoted 2 lines aw c'mon kent, i expected more from you!

> > aw c'mon kent, i expected more from you!

thass the breaks if you'll pardon the expression. Perhaps I've not bought as many D&B CD's as you have, but this record bears up under repeated listening for me, and I guess that we'll have to agree to disagree. Not like it isn't the first time ;-) --------------------------------------------------------------------- "Psyche manifests as psychic through something we call 'winding', because it twists, and puts things that were far apart next to each other, complicatedly, taffywise." -- winona on channel 78 Kent Williams kent@inav.net -- http://soli.inav.net/~kent

1997-06-25 13:39freshie> just listened to Boymerang - Balance Of The Force and am quite > underwhelmed. nothing r

From:: freshie <fafol@appleby.com>
To:: Random Junk <jsd@gamespot.com>, <idm@hyperreal.com>
Date:: Wed, 25 Jun 1997 09:39:35 -0400
Subject:: Re: (idm) boymerang - muzak of the 90's
Reply to:: (idm) boymerang - muzak of the 90's

quoted 2 lines just listened to Boymerang - Balance Of The Force and am quite

> just listened to Boymerang - Balance Of The Force and am quite > underwhelmed. nothing really distinctive about it. it's a competent

Eerrrmmmmm...... I like the Albumn. True there is nothing new about this release. But not much in jungle is. It's nicely executed. And has some really nice techy pieces on it.

quoted 5 lines rehash of photek, no-u-turn, bukem, et al. pleasant enough to listen

> rehash of photek, no-u-turn, bukem, et al. pleasant enough to listen > to once or twice i guess. in contrast, i also just listened to Spring > Heel Jack ("68 million shades") and find a much greater concentration > of ideas and sounds and just general niftyness. >

on now: kooky scientist, _unpopular science_ freshie Paranoia: The choice of a Tech Generation http://silly.com/~tang

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