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1997-04-18 02:18a lifeform (idm) shadow in atl
1997-04-18 04:10Edward A Nilges Re: (idm) shadow in atl
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1997-04-18 02:18a lifeformIt appears I have saved $17 dollars. DJ Shadow and his posse rolled on through Atlanta las
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It appears I have saved $17 dollars. DJ Shadow and his posse rolled on through Atlanta last night. Just about all my friends went, but I did not. I didn't feel like being disappointed again, like I was at the pathetic Tricky show, where all you could see was your hand in front of your face, and all you could hear were distorted murmurs resembling tracks you knew, but couldn't quite identify. My memory was still fresh of the not-so-fresh openners at Tricky, who were so keenly skilled at motivating a diverse crowd by calling them names, tormenting them, and shouting as loud as they could to be heard above the awestruck silence they inspired. I was so looking forward to seeing Shadow, that it only took me a brief remembrance of another show I had eagerly awaited to convince me otherwise. And am I ever glad I decided to stay away. From what I hear, Jeru Damaja's greatest moment was when the crowd cheered his announcement that De La Soul would be playing at the venue this Friday. The talent that accompanied Shadow apparently was his "new" record label's idea. My friends gave me the impression that he is no longer on Mo Wax. Couldn't imagine why. (Really, I can't...) Anyways, this talent flaunted their mighty lyrical riffs while shadow spun his thang. Then, after they tired themselves out, he spun a few tracks off his latest. At least, that's the impression I got from my crew. I dunno... I guess I still respect the boy for putting out such a great record, but why do we need more examples of bad live performances like this? Doesn't anybody do anything original anymore? 'nuff said... on: Cascade pt3 -- guyjr@ns.gt.ed.net | I.D.M.- That stage in sleeping when your feet are a.k.a., Guy Elden, Jr. | moving faster than your eyes.
1997-04-18 04:10Edward A NilgesYeah, I saw him in Chicago and felt real sorry for Jeru. He's so out of his element openin
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Yeah, I saw him in Chicago and felt real sorry for Jeru. He's so out of his element opening for these kinds of acts. Tricky dropped him citing "political differences." I don't have Shadow's album, but I recognized something I'd heard somewhere--the one with a fat funky break and delicate enya-type singing. He did begin one song by tapping out some noodling melody which coalesced into a rather enjoyable thing he looped. The set couldn't have been >40 minutes. About a third-half of the crowd humored Jeru. I chanted bootie or something when my side of the room was sposed too. Participatory anthropology, ya know. I figured out I don't like DJ music too much. Teddy At 10:18 PM 4/17/97 -0400, you wrote:
quoted 48 lines It appears I have saved $17 dollars.>It appears I have saved $17 dollars. > >DJ Shadow and his posse rolled on through Atlanta last night. Just about >all my friends went, but I did not. > >I didn't feel like being disappointed again, like I was at the pathetic >Tricky show, where all you could see was your hand in front of your face, >and all you could hear were distorted murmurs resembling tracks you knew, >but couldn't quite identify. > >My memory was still fresh of the not-so-fresh openners at Tricky, who >were so keenly skilled at motivating a diverse crowd by calling them >names, tormenting them, and shouting as loud as they could to be heard >above the awestruck silence they inspired. > >I was so looking forward to seeing Shadow, that it only took me a brief >remembrance of another show I had eagerly awaited to convince me otherwise. > >And am I ever glad I decided to stay away. > >>From what I hear, Jeru Damaja's greatest moment was when the crowd cheered >his announcement that De La Soul would be playing at the venue this Friday. > >The talent that accompanied Shadow apparently was his "new" record label's >idea. My friends gave me the impression that he is no longer on Mo Wax. >Couldn't imagine why. > >(Really, I can't...) > >Anyways, this talent flaunted their mighty lyrical riffs while shadow spun >his thang. Then, after they tired themselves out, he spun a few tracks >off his latest. > >At least, that's the impression I got from my crew. > >I dunno... I guess I still respect the boy for putting out such a great >record, but why do we need more examples of bad live performances like this? >Doesn't anybody do anything original anymore? > >'nuff said... > >on: Cascade pt3 > >-- >guyjr@ns.gt.ed.net | I.D.M.- That stage in sleeping when your feet are >a.k.a., Guy Elden, Jr. | moving faster than your eyes. > >
1997-04-18 07:41ryan|b|shawregarding shadow's tour: i caught him and latyrx with jeru and de la soul in sf a couple o
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regarding shadow's tour: i caught him and latyrx with jeru and de la soul in sf a couple of weeks ago. enjoyed it thoroughly. why? because i did not expect a mowaxish night of "headz" music, nor drumnbass madness, nor any other idm mainstay. i expected a solid hiphop show, and that's exactly what i got. shadow is touring with his solesides labelmates (not his "new" label, *his* label--the guys he's been down with in davis, ca since he first put needle to groove. mowax is the "new" label). they make hiphop music for a hiphop audience. they do it well, as do jeru and de la. i wouldn't expect the average idm lister to dig it, any more than i would expect them to dig a john zorn show or a buckethead show or an afi show... i posted a while ago about shadow's tour, warning that those not of a hiphop persuasion might be disappointed with the show. looks like i was right. anyway, any disappointment you experienced is, imo, a result of your own misunderstanding of the show you attended--not of any shortcomings of these artists or lack of "respect" for the audience by mowax (who weren't even involved as far as i kno) or anyone else. r|b|s
1997-04-18 05:31AFXmyMIND@aol.comIn a message dated 97-04-18 01:00:46 EDT, you write: << Yeah, I saw him in Chicago and fel
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In a message dated 97-04-18 01:00:46 EDT, you write: << Yeah, I saw him in Chicago and felt real sorry for Jeru >> i saw this show tuesday in new orleans. while dj shadow was kewl, jeru was great. he is a true teacher in hip hop today. If u are a hip hop fan and don't have any jeru cd's GO get both of them soon. With dj premier beats and intelligent lyrics u can't go wrong