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1997-02-24 16:08Chris Fahey RE: (idm) Digital Reproduction
└─ 1997-02-25 01:28Eric Frans RE: (idm) Digital Reproduction
1997-02-24 20:53Chris Fahey RE: (idm) Digital Reproduction
1997-02-24 21:01pHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEfizzog Re: (idm) Digital Reproduction
1997-02-25 07:32collin strange Re: (idm) Digital Reproduction
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1997-02-24 16:08Chris Fahey"Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction" was in my opinion replaced years ago by "Art i
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Chris Fahey
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'IDM'
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Mon, 24 Feb 1997 11:08:21 -0500
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RE: (idm) Digital Reproduction
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"Art in the Age of Mechanical Reproduction" was in my opinion replaced years ago by "Art in the Age of Digital Reproduction" by Douglas Davis. I was born taking reproductions for granted, but not so many of them! With digital technology, it's possible to make a PERFECT copy of so many things, making the difference between a copy and an original a moot question. Here's an example: 1. Guy in 1970's dub band plays on a bass guitar in a Jamaican studio. Bassline is recorded onto track 9 of a multitrack. 2. Track 9 is COPIED onto a master tape in a final mix. Reverb effects double (thus dub) the sound during the recording. 3. Master tape is COPIED onto a master record. 4. Master record is COPIED onto multiple plates for large-scale manufacturing (embarassingly, I don't know how they make records - are they engraved or pressed?) 5. Plates are COPIED onto 100,000 records. 6. Master Tapes are all lost in a fire. 7. Resurgence of dub leads to reissue of the record. Digital restoration begins. 8. Several mint condition records are COPIED onto the Hard Drive of a really nice computer. 9. Restorer cuts-n-pastes like mad from several vinyl copies of the song to make a digital master of a fully restored song. Lots of COPYING going on here. 10. Hard drive is COPIED onto a master DAT. 11. Master DAT is COPIED onto several Gold Master CDs. 12. Gold Master CD is COPIED 100,000 times onto retail disks. 13. Intelligent Dance Musician buys CD and COPIES parts of it into their sampler. 14. IDM person cuts-n-pastes even more madly than the restorer did, COPYING the same digital information so many times it's not even funny. 15. IDM person COPIES the sample onto a master DAT, mixed in with lots of other sounds - some of which they made themselves, some sampled. 16. Master DAT is COPIED onto several Gold Master CDs. 17. Gold Master CD is COPIED 100,000 times onto retail disks. All that's left of the "original" is the bassist's charred guitar pick in the burnt-out husk of some forgotten recording studio in Kingston. But the music is everywhere. -Chris Fahey
quoted 32 lines -----Original Message-----> -----Original Message----- > From: idm-owner@hyperreal.com [SMTP:idm-owner@hyperreal.com] On Behalf > Of Ross Vitale > Sent: Monday, February 24, 1997 10:33 AM > To: IDM > Subject: Re: (idm) Real Autechre > > On Sun, 23 Feb 1997, Hillie wrote: > > > yep. Coz if it's a re-release (domestic) that means it's a copy and > not the > > original, like someone else said it before, I don't remember who, > even though > > it was 2 msgs or so before this one :D > > > > anyhow, since it's a copy really, you don't have that feeling of > owning an > > original. > > I think you've lost me, aren't they all copies, that is they were > copied > from the original master recording. The only true original is the one > they > recorded to the DAT/ADAT or whatever medium when the artist was in > their > respective studio. > > Just a thought or two.... ;-) > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>><<<<<<<<<<<<<<<<< > Ross > Volition Inc > music for the body, mind, and soul
1997-02-25 01:28Eric FransOn Mon, 24 Feb 1997, Chris Fahey wrote: } With digital technology, it's possible to make a
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Eric Frans
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idm
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Mon, 24 Feb 1997 18:28:00 -0700 (MST)
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RE: (idm) Digital Reproduction
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On Mon, 24 Feb 1997, Chris Fahey wrote: } With digital technology, it's possible to make a PERFECT copy of so many } things, making the difference between a copy and an original a moot } question. Only if the original is digital itself. | E r i c | [mail] franse@engr.arizona.edu | | F r a n s | [web] http://intermix.engr.arizona.edu/~franse | "Make the events occur that you want to occur" - The Black Dog
1997-02-24 20:53Chris FaheyI don't need a machine to do jiggery pokery, sir! Speaking of which, all the clones in the
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Chris Fahey
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'Richard@afx.idiscover.co.uk' , 'IDM'
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Mon, 24 Feb 1997 15:53:06 -0500
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RE: (idm) Digital Reproduction
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I don't need a machine to do jiggery pokery, sir! Speaking of which, all the clones in the house say HO! -CF
quoted 15 lines -----Original Message-----> -----Original Message----- > From: idm-owner@hyperreal.com [SMTP:idm-owner@hyperreal.com] On Behalf > Of > pHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLAN > GEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHL > ANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEfizzog > Sent: Monday, February 24, 1997 4:01 PM > To: idm@hyperreal.com > Subject: Re: (idm) Digital Reproduction > > it woUld be wicked if u couLd get a program to tell yOu how mAny > copies > old aLl the elements in a tRack were, by fEeding in the oriGinal and > doing some jiggery pokery. > rdjippo.
1997-02-24 21:01pHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEpHLANGEpHACEfizzogit woUld be wicked if u couLd get a program to tell yOu how mAny copies old aLl the elemen
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it woUld be wicked if u couLd get a program to tell yOu how mAny copies old aLl the elements in a tRack were, by fEeding in the oriGinal and doing some jiggery pokery. rdjippo.
1997-02-25 07:32collin strange>it woUld be wicked if u couLd get a program to tell yOu how mAny copies >old aLl the elem
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Tue, 25 Feb 1997 02:32:24 -0500
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quoted 4 lines it woUld be wicked if u couLd get a program to tell yOu how mAny copies>it woUld be wicked if u couLd get a program to tell yOu how mAny copies >old aLl the elements in a tRack were, by fEeding in the oriGinal and >doing some jiggery pokery. >rdjippo.
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