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1996-10-10 07:36Kristy Shugg (idm) idm a visual art?
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1996-10-10 17:06Eric Gordon (idm) idm a visual art?
1996-10-11 01:21Philip Evans Re: (idm) idm a visual art?
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1996-10-10 07:36Kristy ShuggI attend two schools which are right next to each other, one for visual arts + the other f
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I attend two schools which are right next to each other, one for visual arts + the other for music. Guess which one scanner just gave a lecture/performance to? Yup, the visual one. either the people here consider scanning/sampling/collaging more of a visual concept translated into audio form than 'music', or the people over at the music school have got their heads so far in their orchestra parts they didn't know the guy was coming. I'm curious to know if there are any 'classically trained' idmers out there, 'cos almost everyone seems to come from a non-music background. I'm hoping it's not because musical 'training' closes peoples' ears/minds... --kristy
1996-10-10 16:54Andreu F. Osikaim not a classically trained musician, nor do i creat idm, i am a graphic designer however
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im not a classically trained musician, nor do i creat idm, i am a graphic designer however and this is what i think the deal is: idm (all music) visual expression etc...any type of creative endeavour i consider to be art (some of it may be shite...) scanning,sampling,collaging are SIMPLY techniques used in the fields of music(idm,trance etc...) and visual arts to achieve desired effects/novelty. its about process. scanning, sampling, collaging are not exclusive to visual arts. if you stretched it you could apply these TECHNIQUES even to poetry. your people at school just have a limited view of whats going on, especially in new music... if anyone cares i would appreciate your opinions, comments etc.. afOsika.hificircus.designs.1996 On Thu, 10 Oct 1996, Kristy Shugg wrote:
quoted 17 lines I attend two schools which are right next to each other, one for visual> I attend two schools which are right next to each other, one for visual > arts + the other for music. Guess which one scanner just gave a > lecture/performance to? Yup, the visual one. > > either the people here consider scanning/sampling/collaging more of a > visual concept translated into audio form than 'music', or the people over > at the music school have got their heads so far in their orchestra parts > they didn't know the guy was coming. > > I'm curious to know if there are any 'classically trained' idmers out > there, 'cos almost everyone seems to come from a non-music background. I'm > hoping it's not because musical 'training' closes peoples' ears/minds... > > --kristy > > >
1996-10-10 17:06Eric GordonHi Kristy, > I attend two schools which are right next to each other, one for visual > art
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Thu, 10 Oct 1996 18:06:25 +0100
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(idm) idm a visual art?
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Hi Kristy,
quoted 1 line I attend two schools which are right next to each other,> I attend two schools which are right next to each other,
one for visual
quoted 1 line arts + the other for music. Guess which one scanner just> arts + the other for music. Guess which one scanner just
gave a
quoted 1 line lecture/performance to? Yup, the visual one.> lecture/performance to? Yup, the visual one.
Did you go to see/hear him? I like Scanner, especially the early releases. It ties in with my industrial roots <g>
quoted 1 line either the people here consider> either the people here consider
scanning/sampling/collaging more of a
quoted 1 line visual concept translated into audio form than 'music',> visual concept translated into audio form than 'music',
or the people over
quoted 1 line at the music school have got their heads so far in their> at the music school have got their heads so far in their
orchestra parts
quoted 1 line they didn't know the guy was coming.> they didn't know the guy was coming.
Perhaps it's viewed as a multi-media artform? :-/ bye, Eric.
1996-10-11 01:21Philip EvansAt 11:54 AM 10/10/96, Andreu F. Osika wrote: >im not a classically trained musician, nor d
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At 11:54 AM 10/10/96, Andreu F. Osika wrote:
quoted 15 lines im not a classically trained musician, nor do i creat idm,>im not a classically trained musician, nor do i creat idm, >i am a graphic designer however and this is what i think the deal is: >idm (all music) visual expression etc...any type of creative endeavour >i consider to be art (some of it may be shite...) >scanning,sampling,collaging are SIMPLY techniques used in the fields of >music(idm,trance etc...) and visual arts to achieve desired >effects/novelty. its about process. scanning, sampling, collaging are >not exclusive to visual arts. if you stretched it you could apply these >TECHNIQUES even to poetry. your people at school just have a limited view >of whats going on, especially in new music... >if anyone cares i would appreciate your opinions, comments etc.. > >afOsika.hificircus.designs.1996 > >
That vast majority of graphic artists I know (and I know quite a few, being one myself) have latched onto electronic music in a big way. In fact, that's one very big reason why some much IDM is making it into commercials: the graphics person shows up to the editing sessions toting Chemical Bros, and suddenly all the other music everybody else had considered is left in the dust (no pun intended.) I think it's because we spend our professional lives using exactly the same thought processes used in IDM: cut, paste, appropriate, rearrange, find a way to say something new using old pieces, find the soul in the machine. So when we find this in a musical medium, we're already in familiar territory. -Phil [----------] [---] [-----] [-----] [-----] [----------] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [----------] [----------] [---] [---] [----------] [----------] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [--------] [-----] [-----] [---] [-----] [----------] Home is where the stereo is!