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It was a great show. Here's another another brief take: Made it in time for Meat Beat. Great! Enjoyed every minute. It was Jack and three others: A guitarist (hard to tell what he did, but he probably just made strange guitar noises), a drummer (he was excellent, and added a lot to what was going on, especially the couple solos), and a keyboardist (with a theramin!). Great set, new stuff and old favorites. Next was Underworld. Never heard them before. Sorry, but I didn't really enjoy it much. It sounded like they had one 909 with three slightly different drum patterns, and they played it through their whole show. I was really looking forward to Tomato's video work which I had heard of, but hadn't seen before. I wasn't disappointed. Beautiful massive type layering. Of course the Organic rave-video person kept throwing in their own multi colored rave stars and ruined it. Oh well... Chemical Brothers. Heard a track or two before, but never got into them, myself. But, live there were really energetic and fun. Nice to hear good breaks without that boring, tired 909 thud in everything. They definatly made the crowd (and me) move. Liked all the visuals, too. Lots of periodic table stuff and chemical related imagery (of course). I enjoyed it quite a bit. Orbital. Excellent!!! of course. Started off with my favorite track from the new album, Out There Somewhere? Played quite a bit of older material, actually, and stuff from the new one. Don't remember anything from Snivilization, unfortuneatly. Loved the version of Satan they played, sounded even thick/heavier, but mabye just because it was live. This was supposed to be broadcast live on KROQ/106.7. Did any poor unfortunate IDMer who couldn't go to the event tape this? I would enjoy a copy. Any bootleg entrepreneurs? Lastly, the Orb. I think I might have enjoyed their set the best. I'd never seen them live before, but I've always liked them. What was best was that everything was different then their album work. Lots of new sounds/beats mixed in. I wish this was broadcast live, because I'd love a copy of what they did more than anything else! Started off real mellow and ambient, then worked up to some great beats! Ended with Little Fluffy Clouds when the sun was coming up. Great experience. Great night. Nice long sets. Don't feel so jealous anymore of you UK folk who always seem to get the super-great lineup shows. O O o O O ->- o http://www.primenet.com/~paul23/intro.html o o o o o o O O o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o o

On Sun, 23 Jun 1996, r paul seymour wrote:

quoted 3 lines Next was Underworld. Never heard them before. Sorry, but I didn't really

> Next was Underworld. Never heard them before. Sorry, but I didn't really > enjoy it much. It sounded like they had one 909 with three slightly >

What!!?#$# Totally opposite reaction here. I thought they were pretty cool from their new album, but after seeing them live, it was all over. These guys are fucking brilliant. One of the best at Organic, except the Brothers of course.

quoted 7 lines Chemical Brothers. Heard a track or two before, but never got into them,

> Chemical Brothers. Heard a track or two before, but never got into them, > myself. But, live there were really energetic and fun. Nice to hear good > breaks without that boring, tired 909 thud in everything. They definatly > made the crowd (and me) move. Liked all the visuals, too. Lots of > periodic table stuff and chemical related imagery (of course). I enjoyed > it quite a bit. >

This set was absolutely amazing!! The Chemical Brothers have nothing but the dopest sounds around. More, More, More!!!!!!!! The live Beatles thing was pretty cool too. Love is all we need. This was

quoted 3 lines supposed to be broadcast live on KROQ/106.7. I would enjoy a copy. Any

> supposed to be broadcast live on KROQ/106.7. I would enjoy a copy. Any > bootleg entrepreneurs? >

Ha Ha. I was there AND have a copy of the live broadcast. The tape has around 60% Chemicals set, 100% of Orbital's set, and around 4 Meat Beat tracks. Also, unfortunately included is the entire set of Jason Bentley DJ'ing. Fresh, if you read this, This guy really sucks. Props for playing Leftfield, but everything else in his set, and for that matter everyone else's, was utterly predictable. I can't believe that This guy is one of L.A's top dj's.

quoted 7 lines Lastly, the Orb. I think I might have enjoyed their set the best. I'd

> Lastly, the Orb. I think I might have enjoyed their set the best. I'd > never seen them live before, but I've always liked them. What was best > was that everything was different then their album work. Lots of new > sounds/beats mixed in. I wish this was broadcast live, because I'd love a > copy of what they did more than anything else! Started off real mellow > and ambient, then worked up to some great beats! Ended with Little Fluffy > Clouds when the sun was coming up. Great experience.

I totally agree. The Orb was excellent, and I really enjoyed the track with added drum/bass. Amazing gig. James Benjamin Gill-----jgill@u.arizona.edu**********************************

James B Gill wrote:

quoted 5 lines Also, unfortunately included is the entire set of Jason Bentley

>Also, unfortunately included is the entire set of Jason Bentley > DJ'ing. Fresh, if you read this, This guy really sucks. Props for > playing Leftfield, but everything else in his set, and for that matter > everyone else's, was utterly predictable. I can't believe that This guy > is one of L.A's top dj's.

Jason Bentley is *not* one of L.A.'s top DJ's. He may have some respect for exposing the scene to new people, since he's holding down radio gigs on both the #1 college station (KCRW) and the #1 "alternative" station (KROQ), but no one in L.A. respects him for his skillz.

quoted 5 lines I totally agree. The Orb was excellent, and I really enjoyed the track

> > I totally agree. The Orb was excellent, and I really enjoyed the track > with added drum/bass. Amazing gig. > > James Benjamin Gill-----jgill@u.arizona.edu**********************************

Yeah, but it was so *cold* by then. We tried to sit down and create a de facto chillout area, but nobody around us would cooperate. So we stood for two more hours, waiting for Fluffy White Clouds. I can wait to here the show on tape, though. -- ‹Phil [----------] [---] [-----] [-----] [-----] [----------] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [----------] [----------] [---] [---] [----------] [----------] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [---] [--------] [-----] [-----] [---] [-----] [----------] Home is where the stereo is!

On Thu, 27 Jun 1996, Philip Evans wrote:

quoted 11 lines James B Gill wrote:

> James B Gill wrote: > >Also, unfortunately included is the entire set of Jason Bentley > > DJ'ing. Fresh, if you read this, This guy really sucks. Props for > > playing Leftfield, but everything else in his set, and for that matter > > everyone else's, was utterly predictable. I can't believe that This guy > > is one of L.A's top dj's. > > Jason Bentley is *not* one of L.A.'s top DJ's. He may have some respect > for exposing the scene to new people, since he's holding down radio gigs > on both the #1 college station (KCRW) and the #1 "alternative" station > (KROQ), but no one in L.A. respects him for his skillz.

I kind of got that feeling since he was on my tape with the "Jed the Fish" dude. Btw, that JEd the fish dude really sucks! He kept interrupting the live broadcasts and kept being really annoying. Oh well, at least i still have the show on tape.

quoted 12 lines I totally agree. The Orb was excellent, and I really enjoyed the track

> > > > > I totally agree. The Orb was excellent, and I really enjoyed the track > > with added drum/bass. Amazing gig. > > > > James Benjamin Gill-----jgill@u.arizona.edu********************************** > > Yeah, but it was so *cold* by then. We tried to sit down and create a de > facto chillout area, but nobody around us would cooperate. So we stood > for two more hours, waiting for Fluffy White Clouds. I can wait to here > the show on tape, though. >

Damn right it was cold! It never(and i mean never) gets that cold in Tucson, even in the dead of our so cald winter. But I still stuck it out for Lx and Hughes!! "Fluffy White Clouds," mate?!! I think you mean Little fluffy clouds. Peace James Benjamin Gill-----jgill@u.arizona.edu**********************************

quoted 4 lines Yeah, but it was so *cold* by then. [...]

>> Yeah, but it was so *cold* by then. [...] > > Damn right it was cold! It never (and I mean never) gets that cold in > Tucson, even in the dead of our so-called winter.

If I hear one more wimp whinge and moan about how "cold" it was at Organic, I'll scream. I was in shirt sleeves the entire time, right until we left at 5:30 or so. Never even put on my pullover. The air was incredibly calm and still the entire time (not even a breath of wind) and standing in the middle of a crowd of several thousand people giving off heat made it plenty warm. The Minnesotans and Finns and Norwegians on this list must be laughing their heads off. (Then again, maybe all the whingers were all under the influence of small letters of the end of the alphabet.) (Desert Move in Vegas was a different story. Air temp was 38F at 5:00 AM and the wind was going strong. *That* was nippy.) - Greg Still too lazy to bother with a full Organic review (& still wondering why nobody's mentioned how Jack Dangers went the "organic" band route when they coulda played disc 2 of "Subliminal Sandwich" and blown everybody's socks off ... )

i don't even want to hear it! i was sober and in shorts!!!! :P freeeeeezing! ____ Hug Your Waistline to the Bassline Tamara Palmer trance@netcom.com Women Respond to Bass

On Sat, 29 Jun 1996, Greg Earle wrote:

quoted 8 lines Yeah, but it was so *cold* by then. [...]

> >> Yeah, but it was so *cold* by then. [...] > > > > Damn right it was cold! It never (and I mean never) gets that cold in > > Tucson, even in the dead of our so-called winter. > > If I hear one more wimp whinge and moan about how "cold" it was at Organic, > I'll scream. I was in shirt sleeves the entire time, right until we left > at 5:30 or so. Never even put on my pullover. The air was incredibly calm

Gregg, you left so early!! You should have toughed it out until 7!! That's the only reason I mentioned the weather, if you were fromTucson, you'd understand. Calling someone a wimp who drove 500 miles each way, that morning, to see this event; and then stayed until the sun was peaking(no matter how cold it got!) is rather harsh in my opinion. and what is this "whinge" stuff? you mean whine I think. Cool, later James Benjamin Gill-----jgill@u.arizona.edu**********************************

quoted 10 lines Yeah, but it was so *cold* by then. [...]

>>>> Yeah, but it was so *cold* by then. [...] >>> >>> Damn right it was cold! It never (and I mean never) gets that cold in >>> Tucson, even in the dead of our so-called winter. >> >> If I hear one more wimp whinge and moan about how "cold" it was at Organic, >> I'll scream. I was in shirt sleeves the entire time, right until we left >> at 5:30 or so. Never even put on my pullover. The air was incredibly calm > > Greg, you left so early!! You should have toughed it out until 7!!

Uh, it usually gets *warmer* after sunrise ... as for leaving, I was willing to stay but the other half was exhausted (we got there at 5 PM, I think nearly 13 hours standing is enough for most anyone). Plus, like I said, The Orb were annoying me. Making us wait at least an hour before they came on like Prima Donas was bad enough; but aimlessly wanking about for eons between actual "songs" (sometimes the between-track noise could have been called "Sounds from runway 4-R, 120 db") was a little too much for me after a while.

quoted 4 lines That's the only reason I mentioned the weather, if you were from Tucson,

> That's the only reason I mentioned the weather, if you were from Tucson, > you'd understand. Calling someone a wimp who drove 500 miles each way, > that morning, to see this event; and then stayed until the Sun was > peaking (no matter how cold it got!) is rather harsh in my opinion.

Wimpiness has nothing to do with the drive. If I go to an all-night event in shorts and a t-shirt and never need to put on a sweater or a pullover (much less long pants), I hardly think that qualifies as "cold". It's not like as if there were ski parkas, gloves and ear muffs bustin' out all over, y'know? :-)

quoted 1 line And what is this "whinge" stuff? You mean whine I think. Cool, later

> And what is this "whinge" stuff? You mean whine I think. Cool, later

The proper English spelling. :-) On now: Jeff Mills "Boring, monotonous 4/4 stomp Live in Tokyo" - Greg Slowly reviewing Organic, one message at a time

On Sun, 30 Jun 1996, Greg Earle wrote: } >>>> Yeah, but it was so *cold* by then. [...] } >>> } >>> Damn right it was cold! It never (and I mean never) gets that cold in } >>> Tucson, even in the dead of our so-called winter. } >> } >> If I hear one more wimp whinge and moan about how "cold" it was at Organic, } >> I'll scream. I was in shirt sleeves the entire time, right until we left } >> at 5:30 or so. Never even put on my pullover. The air was incredibly calm } > } > Greg, you left so early!! You should have toughed it out until 7!! } } Uh, it usually gets *warmer* after sunrise ... as for leaving, I was willing } to stay but the other half was exhausted (we got there at 5 PM, I think } nearly 13 hours standing is enough for most anyone). Plus, like I said, The } Orb were annoying me. Making us wait at least an hour before they came on } like Prima Donas was bad enough; but aimlessly wanking about for eons between } actual "songs" (sometimes the between-track noise could have been called } "Sounds from runway 4-R, 120 db") was a little too much for me after a while. } } > That's the only reason I mentioned the weather, if you were from Tucson, } > you'd understand. Calling someone a wimp who drove 500 miles each way, } > that morning, to see this event; and then stayed until the Sun was } > peaking (no matter how cold it got!) is rather harsh in my opinion. } } Wimpiness has nothing to do with the drive. If I go to an all-night event } in shorts and a t-shirt and never need to put on a sweater or a pullover } (much less long pants), I hardly think that qualifies as "cold". It's not } like as if there were ski parkas, gloves and ear muffs bustin' out all over, } y'know? :-) Granted I'm from Arizona also, but I think that in the wee hours (around 3am) at that Organic show it was considered 'cold'. I don't where you were looking in the crowd, but I saw plenty of people wearing jackets and even a few 'whimps' wearing ear muffs. Where are you from? If you weren't the least bit cold dressed in shorts and a short sleeved shirt than either you are from the far north or you were born with fur covering your body.8) So which is it? _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ Eric Frans :: franse@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/

quoted 3 lines If you weren't the least bit cold dressed in shorts and a short sleeved

> If you weren't the least bit cold dressed in shorts and a short sleeved > shirt than either you are from the far north or you were born with fur > covering your body.8) So which is it?

I spent much of the show standing about six inches behind Greg and I noticed no particular excess of fur. I saw a *lot* of people who didn't seem to understand the consequences of being outside in the mountains at 5000+ feet above sea level after the sun goes down. It got a little chilly, no doubt about that, and when I wandered away from the stage between sets in sweat-soaked clothing I got cold. But it was perfectly tol'able down by the stage where we were. You SoCal people are too used to not having any real weather. :-) -- ::: Lazlo (lazlo@swcp.com; http://www.swcp.com/lazlo)

quoted 6 lines If you weren't the least bit cold dressed in shorts and a short sleeved

>> If you weren't the least bit cold dressed in shorts and a short sleeved >> shirt than either you are from the far north or you were born with fur >> covering your body.8) So which is it? > > I spent much of the show standing about six inches behind Greg and I > noticed no particular excess of fur.

Come on you Laz!

quoted 5 lines I saw a *lot* of people who didn't seem to understand the consequences of

> I saw a *lot* of people who didn't seem to understand the consequences of > being outside in the mountains at 5000+ feet above sea level after the > sun goes down. It got a little chilly, no doubt about that, and when I > wandered away from the stage between sets in sweat-soaked clothing I got > cold. But it was perfectly tol'able down by the stage where we were.

Yep, exactly my point. Standing in a sea of humanity right in front of the stage, there's definitely a temperature gradient involved. Laz and I were right in front of the tower stage front, and the sea of people giving off heat combined with the extreme stillness of the air made it quite pleasant.

quoted 1 line You SoCal people are too used to not having any real weather. :-)

> You SoCal people are too used to not having any real weather. :-)

Hehe (-: (To answer the original questioner, I'm originally from the Boston area, but in 20 years of L.A. living my blood hasn't thinned out yet. Also, I have some extra insulation courtesy of, erm, Body By Michelin (-: ) ObIDM: Organic by bits review part 3: Underworld. Great duo, shame about the useless 3rd appendage. The poor 3rd guy doesn't seem to know what to do; as he serves no real purpose. If I wanted vocals, etc. ... Guitars? I couldn't hear his, and I don't want to hear guitars. The rest of the time he spent trying to pretend he's Bez from Happy Mondays/Black Grape or something. But the music the other two guys were making was interesting. Sometimes I found it a bit boring (too much samey stuff; same tempos, rhythms, etc.), and other times it was quite good ... and they had excellent visuals to match. Probably the only band during whose set I felt like I really wish I had tried harder to find small letters of the end of the alphabet ... although Orbital was excellent as well, but that's part 4 ... - Greg

} You SoCal people are too used to not having any real weather. :-) Yeah, us Arizonans too. It's pretty much one long summer here with a few exceptions. 8) _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/ _/ _/ _/ Eric Frans :: franse@bigdog.engr.arizona.edu _/ _/ _/ _/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/_/