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1995-12-03 16:15Derek Jordan (idm) Review:Tournesol-Moonfunk
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1995-12-03 16:15Derek JordanTournesol-MOONFUNK R&S Records RS 95074 Double Vinyl Version TRACKLISTING: 'inside angel'
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Tournesol-MOONFUNK R&S Records RS 95074 Double Vinyl Version TRACKLISTING: 'inside angel' 'chords of rhythm' 'jungle movie' 'sunny blow' 'interplanetary zonecheck' 'break n space' 'electrowaltz' 'scapeland' 'volt-age' 'mapping your mind' 'baljerne' '2095' 'clockworking clockwork clock' --------------------------------------------------------------------------- Some of you may remember this danish duo from the eponymous debut TOURNESOL on R&S a couple years back, or KOKOTSU last year on Apollo, but for others, this might be an introduction. For starters, they're in way like FSOL in that their style isn't really considered "hush hush" ambient, but more of epic pans, sweeps, filters, samples, etc. This style is dominant in both KOKOTSU and with MOONFUNK. I hate comparing groups to others, but the only way we know what to buy is by reviews, right? Ok. First off, Tournesol have changed up the game plan a bit by sprinkling some variety in this LP, i'm speaking of rap vocals, and jazzy trance & jungle rhythms. 'interplanetary zonecheck' and 'volt-age' have a rapper "panasonique" spatting off about electronic music, and where it can take you, blah, blah, blah...The rap is o.k., but when a vibe is set, why have some out spout off a couple of cliched lines? It ruins it for me, and definitely didn't work with B. Hannant's SCULPTURED album. Although, 'interplanetary zonecheck' was kinda vibey in an acid jazz sort of way. Sort of. 'volt-age' would have been much better if Tournesol would have kept the same musical background arrangement during the second part of the rap(listen to it, you'll see what I mean...). Enough of that, though. 'inside angel', 'jungle movie', and 'baljerne' fill the room with the "soundscapes" we've come to know as a FSOL style, ambient jungle noises, panning, sweeps, etc. However overused, it still works as segues for mixtapes for the experimental dj's, and for those who are CD lazy, and want to light up a spliff/blunt, and chill like the dude on the AI cover. '2095' sounds like it came right out of a futuristic soundtrack, Blade Runner style! Good job, and ideal to listen to under a dimmed light(as I just recently found out). 'sunny blow' has a reggae undertone, then shifts back to KOKOTSU-type ambience. Everyone should know by know of the 'break n space' track, which I reviewed from the REFRESH YOUR EARS tape back a few months ago. Cool jazzy sounds, works REAL well in the club, and sounds more like a Model 500 track for some reason. Techno Jazz, anyone? 'electrowaltz' is a personal favorite, with its ISDN-isms, and ear hugging bassline. 'mapping your mind' reminds one of the tracks from DREAMFISH, swirly liquid electronics, water splashes, that sort of thing. The tracks I didn't like were 'chords of rhythm'--boring. It's too, TOO, basic. 'clockworking clockwork clock', well I didn't write anything down about it, so it must've been the pits, too! 9/10 Derek Jordan
1995-12-03 20:19Greg Earle> Some of you may remember this danish duo from the eponymous debut > TOURNESOL on R&S a c
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quoted 6 lines Some of you may remember this danish duo from the eponymous debut> Some of you may remember this danish duo from the eponymous debut > TOURNESOL on R&S a couple years back, or KOKOTSU last year on Apollo, but > for others, this might be an introduction. For starters, they're in way > like FSOL in that their style isn't really considered "hush hush" > ambient, but more of epic pans, sweeps, filters, samples, etc. This > style is dominant in both KOKOTSU and with MOONFUNK.
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Ho ho ho. Sorry Derek, you completely lost me with this one. I don't see where Tournesol is like FSOL, and to me the crappy Rap and aimless Jazzy noodling style is what is dominant on "Moonfunk", not the epic style of "Kokotsu". They changed completely between these albums - well, good for them, since changing is the challenge for all musicians - but unfortunately, they changed in all the wrong directions as far as I was concerned. 2/10 from where I sit ... - Greg
1995-12-05 01:48Lemniscopic PassengerOn Sun, 3 Dec 1995, Greg Earle wrote: > > Some of you may remember this danish duo from th
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On Sun, 3 Dec 1995, Greg Earle wrote:
quoted 11 lines Some of you may remember this danish duo from the eponymous debut> > Some of you may remember this danish duo from the eponymous debut > > TOURNESOL on R&S a couple years back, or KOKOTSU last year on Apollo, but > > Ho ho ho. Sorry Derek, you completely lost me with this one. I don't see > where Tournesol is like FSOL, and to me the crappy Rap and aimless Jazzy > noodling style is what is dominant on "Moonfunk", not the epic style of > "Kokotsu". They changed completely between these albums - well, good for > them, since changing is the challenge for all musicians - but unfortunately, > they changed in all the wrong directions as far as I was concerned. > > 2/10 from where I sit ...
Gotta agree with that for the most part, though there are still parts of Moonfunk that are cool, it's just a bit of a let down after the terrific Kokotsu release. Kokotsu gets a 9/10 (it grew on me, though the tracks are long and super-wooshy-filtery, jp-6 perhaps?) but I'd give Moonfunk a 4/10. The change is good though, as another Kokotsu would almost be too much. I think it is just a transitional LP or something, imho. Are Tournesol online? I'd like to know the synths they're using...on both said LPs. David Chandler - chandler@nethost.multnomah.lib.or.us (503)301-3011 grep -i casio goodwillbins >> mystudio ; grep -i atari goodwillbins >> mystudio ;
1995-12-05 16:40Derek Jordan> Gotta agree with that for the most part, though there are still parts of > Moonfunk that
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quoted 7 lines Gotta agree with that for the most part, though there are still parts of> Gotta agree with that for the most part, though there are still parts of > Moonfunk that are cool, it's just a bit of a let down after the terrific > Kokotsu release. Kokotsu gets a 9/10 (it grew on me, though the tracks > are long and super-wooshy-filtery, jp-6 perhaps?) but I'd give Moonfunk a > 4/10. The change is good though, as another Kokotsu would almost be too > much. I think it is just a transitional LP or something, imho. >
read my reply to greg earle... I'm not sure if Tournesol are online, but you could mail Mixmaster Morris(morris@space.demon.co.uk) to see if you can get in touch with them. They worked together on the Love Parade(I believe) over the summer. Derek Jordan
1995-12-05 16:32Derek Jordan> Ho ho ho. Sorry Derek, you completely lost me with this one. I don't see > where Tournes
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quoted 6 lines Ho ho ho. Sorry Derek, you completely lost me with this one. I don't see> Ho ho ho. Sorry Derek, you completely lost me with this one. I don't see > where Tournesol is like FSOL, and to me the crappy Rap and aimless Jazzy > noodling style is what is dominant on "Moonfunk", not the epic style of > "Kokotsu". They changed completely between these albums - well, good for > them, since changing is the challenge for all musicians - but unfortunately, > they changed in all the wrong directions as far as I was concerned.
What really set Moonfunk apart from Kokotsu is that the tracks are shorter, and can be used as fillers for my mixtapes. The Kokotsu tracks were "too" long, offering very little in the way of melodies & bass(exception--'holy cow'), and that there was more of a variation on the 'electronic noodling' theme. You didn't like '2095'? That was very "cinematic" for me, and mixes very well alongside some ISDN-like F.S.O.L. Oh, well. The FSOL reference was in regards to Tournesol making use of stereo effects(panning from the left channel to the right channel, decay, reverb, low-end subharmonic bass, distortion,etc.) very little of this was used on Kokotsu(as far as I know, I listened to it right after Moonfunk), as well as making use of all 360 degrees of the aural soundscape, and in that sense, they were able to "change up" their style, making it FSOL-esque. Derek
1995-12-04 03:22Julius anthony Martinez> 9/10 9 out of 10 for this one? The rap absolutely ruined the album in my opinion. It's n
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quoted 1 line 9/10> 9/10
9 out of 10 for this one? The rap absolutely ruined the album in my opinion. It's nowhere near as good as "Kokotsu" which is an absolutely fantastic album. I was expecting so much more from these guys and was really let down. I never bought Moonfunk, but from what I heard I'd give it about a 5/10 with Kokotsu a 9/10. Tony
1995-12-05 15:40Derek JordanOn Sun, 3 Dec 1995, Julius anthony Martinez wrote: > > > 9/10 > > 9 out of 10 for this one
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On Sun, 3 Dec 1995, Julius anthony Martinez wrote:
quoted 8 lines 9/10> > > 9/10 > > 9 out of 10 for this one? The rap absolutely ruined the album in my opinion. > It's nowhere near as good as "Kokotsu" which is an absolutely fantastic > album. I was expecting so much more from these guys and was really let down. > I never bought Moonfunk, but from what I heard I'd give it about a 5/10 with > Kokotsu a 9/10.
Ok. The reason I liked it better than Kokotsu, is that the previous album didn't diversify enough for my ambient tastes. 'holy cow', 'henka', and 'electric church' simply were MAHVELOUS, but I think there should have been more of it to fill a double(or even triple) album! Luckily for you, there were only 2 rap tracks on the album, as opposed to at least 3 or more, which would have ruined it for me, too! Derek