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2000-01-25 17:04david turgeon (idm) bye-bye!
└─ 2000-02-26 06:51Konstantin Minko RE: (idm) bye-bye!
2000-01-26 19:56Michael Upton RE: (idm) bye-bye!
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2000-01-25 17:04david turgeonon that note, this is my last idm-l message & i'm now unsubscribing! if a bunch of intelli
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david turgeon
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Tue, 25 Jan 2000 12:04:30 -0500
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(idm) bye-bye!
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on that note, this is my last idm-l message & i'm now unsubscribing! if a bunch of intelligently written, on-topic, short reviews can manage not to welcomed by certain members of this list, then perhaps its moderators should seriously question its purpose as an informative list & stop misleading new subscribers & clearly state that idm-l is from this point onward to be considered mostly an ebay-trader hangout & the place where autechre-sniffers meet to discuss hidden tracks & what lotion sean & rob use to masturbate on their dsp box. of course, if the only reason why i'm leaving was that i'm being offended by an uneducated comment, you could probably think me a wuss, but in fact, the complete lack of INTELLIGENCE displayed on this list in the past few months has done its share to offend me, if you ask. in many a previous thread, a lot of you were quick to dissmiss the word 'intelligence' itself as elitist: well, be glad, what you called elitism (& which i would term the 'practical arrangement of a group of likeminded people') has now turned into a free-for-all mess where every passing idiot can irresponsibly claim their right to throw hasty comments & petty insults while never adding any pertinent content, whereas content is what ANY mailing list (hell, any source of information) should be about. but for now i shall resort to the excuse of the weak philosophers: 'if the people want it...' & leave it at that. & to all of those i may have offended during my stint on this list: as a co-worker worded the other day, 'it's only words' to which i may precise: 'it's only opinion.' all of you who took my little rants as face value would do well to go back to watching television where they really do want you to believe everything they say. private replies are welcome & questions will be answered (not that i think there's any questions to be asked!). insults will be laughed at & then sent to the trash. have a nice day, ~ david ps: i know such a message is ultimately useless & will be regarded if anything as primadonnalike or whatnot. what can i say: i do feel genuinely mad about a list with so much potential going to shits because of certain people not following certain simple, logical, _sensible_ ethical guidelines & thus i feel it my 'duty' to adress this problem if for the last time. a true philosophical idealism in the russellian sense, & sue me. ps2: community is a nice thing, but it will never work without certain rules which are mostly common sense. & when certain people choose to be above them, that's when policing has to get into the picture & wastes a good thing entirely by replacing genuine cooperation with a forced submission into following laws. --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org
2000-02-26 06:51Konstantin MinkoRather childish approach as of me. What should people who liked your reviews do? Maybe we
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Konstantin Minko
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, david turgeon
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Sat, 26 Feb 2000 09:51:55 +0300
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RE: (idm) bye-bye!
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(idm) bye-bye!
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Rather childish approach as of me. What should people who liked your reviews do? Maybe we should stop walking ourside if we meet a jerk on the street? Maybe we should cease to talk if we are offended anyhow? Be a realist and do not notice what you do not want to notice. You forget that there's lots of people on the list who are normal and appreciate idm music news but do not post much which makes them seem unvisible to you but there are such people. Alien angry... _____Warning! This message is absolutely useless._____
quoted 64 lines -----Original Message-----> -----Original Message----- > From: david turgeon [mailto:eerie@mnemonic.net] > Sent: Tuesday, January 25, 2000 8:05 PM > To: idm@hyperreal.org > Subject: (idm) bye-bye! > > > on that note, this is my last idm-l message & i'm now unsubscribing! > > if a bunch of intelligently written, on-topic, short reviews can manage > not to welcomed by certain members of this list, then perhaps its > moderators should seriously question its purpose as an informative list > & stop misleading new subscribers & clearly state that idm-l is from > this point onward to be considered mostly an ebay-trader hangout & the > place where autechre-sniffers meet to discuss hidden tracks & what > lotion sean & rob use to masturbate on their dsp box. > > of course, if the only reason why i'm leaving was that i'm being > offended by an uneducated comment, you could probably think me a wuss, > but in fact, the complete lack of INTELLIGENCE displayed on this list in > the past few months has done its share to offend me, if you ask. > > in many a previous thread, a lot of you were quick to dissmiss the word > 'intelligence' itself as elitist: well, be glad, what you called elitism > (& which i would term the 'practical arrangement of a group of > likeminded people') has now turned into a free-for-all mess where every > passing idiot can irresponsibly claim their right to throw hasty > comments & petty insults while never adding any pertinent content, > whereas content is what ANY mailing list (hell, any source of > information) should be about. but for now i shall resort to the excuse > of the weak philosophers: 'if the people want it...' & leave it at that. > > & to all of those i may have offended during my stint on this list: as a > co-worker worded the other day, 'it's only words' to which i may > precise: 'it's only opinion.' all of you who took my little rants as > face value would do well to go back to watching television where they > really do want you to believe everything they say. > > private replies are welcome & questions will be answered (not that i > think there's any questions to be asked!). insults will be laughed at & > then sent to the trash. > > have a nice day, > > ~ david > > ps: i know such a message is ultimately useless & will be regarded if > anything as primadonnalike or whatnot. what can i say: i do feel > genuinely mad about a list with so much potential going to shits because > of certain people not following certain simple, logical, _sensible_ > ethical guidelines & thus i feel it my 'duty' to adress this problem if > for the last time. a true philosophical idealism in the russellian > sense, & sue me. > > ps2: community is a nice thing, but it will never work without certain > rules which are mostly common sense. & when certain people choose to be > above them, that's when policing has to get into the picture & wastes a > good thing entirely by replacing genuine cooperation with a forced > submission into following laws. > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org > For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org >
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2000-01-26 19:56Michael Upton>===== Original Message From "Konstantin Minko" <ibss@ukrpack.net> ===== >Rather childish
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Michael Upton
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Wed, 26 Jan 2000 14:56:39 -0500
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RE: (idm) bye-bye!
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quoted 7 lines ===== Original Message From "Konstantin Minko" <ibss@ukrpack.net> =====>===== Original Message From "Konstantin Minko" <ibss@ukrpack.net> ===== >Rather childish approach as of me. What should people who liked your reviews >do? Maybe we should stop walking ourside if we meet a jerk on the street? >Maybe we should cease to talk if we are offended anyhow? Be a realist and do >not notice what you do not want to notice. You forget that there's lots of >people on the list who are normal and appreciate idm music news but do not >post much which makes them seem unvisible to you but there are such people.
*sigh* How come several people have come along and said "Duh, why did he leave over a single comment?" when David explicitly stated that wasn't the reason? Behold:
quoted 4 lines of course, if the only reason why i'm leaving was that i'm being> of course, if the only reason why i'm leaving was that i'm being > offended by an uneducated comment, you could probably think me a wuss, > but in fact, the complete lack of INTELLIGENCE displayed on this list in > the past few months has done its share to offend me, if you ask.
I only bother to post this to IDM, because I think it's somewhat ironic given David's above comments, and worth thinking about. Michael -+- Jet Jaguar MP3s http://mp3.com/jetjag/ -+- --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: idm-unsubscribe@hyperreal.org For additional commands, e-mail: idm-help@hyperreal.org