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quoted 2 lines Has anyone purchases "Water From a Vine Leaf" or whatever his last single was?

>Has anyone purchases "Water From a Vine Leaf" or whatever his last single was? >Is there anything else along the "Strange Cargo" lines?

To me William Orbit sounds like he doesn't dare to take any chances and definitely hasn't got the guts to break any rules of how pop music is made. The music is too polished. It's like listening to a slightly more experiental version of Enigma. It's the kind of music you put on when your parents come to visit you. - chris@minsk.docs.uu.se

oh boy, arguing with christian! one of my 10 favorite things to do on the internet.... :)

quoted 5 lines To me William Orbit sounds like he doesn't dare to take any chances and

>To me William Orbit sounds like he doesn't dare to take any chances and >definitely hasn't got the guts to break any rules of how pop music is made. >The music is too polished. It's like listening to a slightly more experiental >version of Enigma. >It's the kind of music you put on when your parents come to visit you.

come on! he's not nearly that awful. bass-o-matic is pretty damn cool, in fact. the guy has a lot of good ideas and a unique sound. he's got that one trick where he brings the loop points on a sample closer together until the sound becomes a shrill high pitched buzz, and then he brings the points out again... i love that. true, he tends to work in the pop music area, but he's made some really excellent remixes - batman (turned a dreadful song into something pretty cool), s'express (the orbit mix of hey music lover is insane)... i'm sure there are others. Jon Drukman jdrukman%dlsun87@us.oracle.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Always note the sequencer - this will never let us down.

Maybe my enthusiasm for "Strange Cargo" requires further explanation. Christian compares Orbit to Enigma, Drukman compared him to Tomita in a letter. Yes, possibly so, it certainly has its new-age elements, but SC1 was made in 1987. Before Enigma, but after the classic electronic age. It certainly is "safe" music, a friend compared it to Pink Floyd while I was listening to it. I'm not sure if I would ever dump this on an unsuspecting crowd. If "Via Caliente" wasn't so slow, it would certain mix fodder, but I wouldn't dismiss the album just on that basis. It does sound like Floyd, it does sound like Copeland, it does sound like Gabriel. Unfortunately, I like all three of those artists.

quoted 3 lines Maybe my enthusiasm for "Strange Cargo" requires further explanation.

>Maybe my enthusiasm for "Strange Cargo" requires further explanation. >Christian compares Orbit to Enigma, Drukman compared him to Tomita in a >letter.

i said tangerine dream, not tomita. /j/

so there *are* other people on this list besides me & jon! :) jon said, regarding william orbit,

quoted 4 lines true, he tends to work in the pop music area, but he's made some

> true, he tends to work in the pop music area, but he's made some > really excellent remixes - batman (turned a dreadful song into > something pretty cool), s'express (the orbit mix of hey music lover is > insane)... i'm sure there are others.

the first time i heard mr. orbit was in january 1989 when i was taping a top 40 hot mix show on the radio.. they played his remix of "now you're in heaven" by julian lennon and it blew me away. once i figured out you could buy these "hot mixes" on records it was one of the first ones i picked up. then i got another.. and another.. :) other mixes by him that i can think of off the top of my head are: madonna - justify my love, 1 or 2 other more recent singles seal - the beginning erasure - supernature depeche mode - walking in my shoes and all kinds of stuff on his guerilla records label. there is a disc called guerilla grooves which is all produced by/played by/ or mixed by him. all of this stuff, though good, does have some annoyingly repetitive gimmicks which define this trademark "guerilla sound".. once you've heard one of his remixes you can pick out new ones right away. the bassomatic stuff that i've heard is in this genre. on the other hand, the strange cargo album, with the exception of one song, sounds very different from his usual material. some of the tracks are funky and upbeat, others are totally moody and ambient. does anyone have strange cargo 2? how does it compare? also - there is an old william orbit discography at cs.uwp.edu ObIntelligence: William Orbit, even in 1988-89, was using some really neat tricks (like the loop-point-variation jon described) with sound, as well as putting out some mixes that were way ahead of their time in some respects. Mike Brown _ _ __ ______________________________________Approach and Identify

Darren Emerson writes:

quoted 33 lines From idm-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU Tue Feb 22 11:42:09 1994

> From idm-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU Tue Feb 22 11:42:09 1994 > Date: Tue, 22 Feb 94 18:16 GMT0 > From: Darren Emerson <rizmit@cix.compulink.co.uk> > Subject: == No Subject == > To: idm@techno.Stanford.EDU > Reply-To: rizmit@cix.compulink.co.uk > Message-Id: <memo.522629@cix.compulink.co.uk> > Sender: idm-owner@techno.Stanford.EDU > > > Brenden said : > > > > The techno scene is constantly changing, you just have to know where to > look. As I`ve said before, you can`t just rely on APhex, Orb and FSOL to > be > at the forefront. Most of the stuff I`ve mentioned above is where it`s > really at nowadays. What do you think? > Brendan Nelson > > > > I totally agree with you mate.It seems to me that a lot of > people think that there are only a few good bands around. > I'll think they're find they are wrong. > Red Planet ,Love the stuff ... > > Also,I can remember that Chris was digging out William Orbit. > I think he was saying that,he was a 50 year old or something > that has made shit records....bla ...bla ....bla > ......bla ....bla....Bandwagon...bla >

quoted 3 lines Well to be honest,I don't really give a shit who the person is as long as

> Well to be honest,I don't really give a shit who the person is as long as > the music is good. And personally I think Strange Cargo 3 is an excellent > album. I also know for a fact that he is not 50 years old.

He would have had to age pretty fast over the past decade, given the photos on the Torch Song albums. Speaking of which, "Prepare To Energize" doesn't sound like any eleven-year- old song, which makes the bandwagon-jumping claim sound pretty silly. -- Lazlo (lazlo@unm.edu) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ and when he had crossed the bridge, the phantoms came to meet him