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!!! Mail forwarded by idm-owner, fluid@hyperreal.com !!! !!! Original message and sender below !!! ---------- Forwarded message ---------- Date: Mon, 06 Feb 95 19:48:33 GMT From: darko <RIMELLBD@ibm3090.bham.ac.uk> To: idm-owner@HYPERREAL.COM Subject: Indust V Techno & Que Club Oscillate To finally kill the Industrial vs Techno debate (he says hopefully), if you listen to early severed heads, then that pretty much is where aphex twin got a lot of his sounds from. But beyond Genesis P. Orridge and Richard H Kirk the industrial connection to techno (IMHO) doesnt go any further than that...... OK! Finalesment, did anyone go to that Oscillate allnighter in the Que Club, Birmingham (England....). Stunning wasnt the word! Autchre and u-ziq played, and aside from Autechre's kind of uninspiring set (Repetitve beats to 'Flutter'! That cannot happen..i was so looking forward to going crazy with ticky sounds everywhere...) where most of their brilliant stuff on amber was either overlooked ("Montreal, Silverside") or mixed in with some odd sounding beats that didnt go well at all ("piezo" got totally trashed). u-ziq were downright brill and I swear Mike Paradinas is deliberately getting more into the cheezy 70s in-house brass band sound....most of the end of the set sounded more like human league crossed with some odd soap opera theme tunes and 70s movie soundtracks than anything else! Nevertheless, it was f!!!ing ace. PS Anyone figured out the track listing to "Bluff LImbo" yet or is that something I missed? As for the DJing - brill. Anyway, gotta fly..... Ok! darko (On NOW: "The Calling": APL)

quoted 2 lines Finalesment, did anyone go to that Oscillate allnighter in the Que

> Finalesment, did anyone go to that Oscillate allnighter in the Que > Club,

Yes, I was there! I was blown away too, but I must say more by Autechre than mU-ziq, to be honest. I too was surprised to hear repetitive beats on "Flutter" but the fact that it was 15 minutes long and still brilliant says something. The speed change was great! The fact that I was at the back on the balcony when I heard mU-ziq probably affected the sound. I thought he had a problem making the tracks sound tight - the beats seemed to come in any-old-how at times. Not that it was bad :) I actually left about 4:05 before he had even finished playing because my friend and I were both about to drop - not enough all night parties recently! :( The event certainly the night put the "D" into IDM. The Oscillate boys built the night from ambient dub to great hard crunchy beats, and both acts displayed/played their harder, less ambient side. J ^ James Skilton aka Steady J - jamess@firefox.co.uk ^---+ What's in the basket? My Brother!

quoted 7 lines -But beyond Genesis P. Orridge and Richard H Kirk the industrial

> > -But beyond Genesis P. Orridge and Richard H Kirk the industrial > -connection to techno (IMHO) doesnt go any further than that...... > > Not quite, I could think of other connections : Bourbonese Qualk (their > latest was more on the techno side of things), the Hafler Trio... >

Or Coil, or Intermix (no flames about whether FLA was "truly" industrial), or... the list goes on. -H-

Gee, this subject is getting boring... Can't we talk about Mu-Ziq for a while? ;) ERkki

quoted 3 lines Gee, this subject is getting boring...

> > Gee, this subject is getting boring... > Can't we talk about Mu-Ziq for a while? ;)

Sure! Anyone heard if there is a domestic Tango n' Vectif coming out soon? :-) (or did I miss it? I didn't see it in the ZiqFaq but a local record store here insists it is coming out. Will there be yet another new set of tracks on this one to foil Trainspotters?) -H-